Pacquio Agrees to Mayweathers Blood Testing Demands

[Relentless]

Quote: Originally Posted by grunt

How many times have BDF in our era been floored? If BDF doesn't have a chin his defense must be out this world. Shane Mosley has more one punch power than Manny and he was able to take Mosley power punches and continue to dominate him through the fight. Manny isn't Chavez because Chavez was a very sharp and accurate puncher while Manny is bordering on being wild. There are too many counter opportunities available against Manny. Do you really believe the BDF in our era is scared of a high energy, smaller fighter. Floyd can duplicate the speed of Manny in the gym easier than Manny can duplicate the defensive skill, speed, power, and quickness of the BDF in our era. BDF has seen faster fighter he use to spar against Pernell when he was a teenager and quick handed fighter is the norm for many African American fighters. You are going to see a small, quick fighter going against a bigger, stronger, and faster fighter in BDF. BDF in our era will hit manny and hit him often and he cut him up pretty bad. Just see the Manny/Clottey fight and see both fighter and imagine Manny being in a fight with a fighter that will counter off those arcing punches. Easy fight.

Most definitely agree was just saying they were very dissimiliar and great in there own rights.. anyone that said they didnt fight anyone just loss.. especially when roy dominated Toney.. and Bhop in there primes..when they were absolutely dominant.. he made them look amateur.. Much like Pretty boy Floyd and the fighters he faced.. the defensive compubox numbers are impressive.. as well as his land percentage..

exactly.. SUGAR has abotu and 80 percent KO rate.. he hit him with his hardest shot.. May took it and smiled.. then discouraged him.. he took the fight out of him.. Manny will be different.. he wont stop fighting.. which can.. and i think will to lead to his own knockout.. as he will offer mayweather that many more opportunities..

Shane vs Pac would be a better fight...

[grunt]

Quote: Originally Posted by Relentless

Most definitely agree was just saying they were very dissimiliar and great in there own rights.. anyone that said they didnt fight anyone just loss.. especially when roy dominated Toney.. and Bhop in there primes..when they were absolutely dominant.. he made them look amateur.. Much like Pretty boy Floyd and the fighters he faced.. the defensive compubox numbers are impressive.. as well as his land percentage.. exactly.. SUGAR has abotu and 80 percent KO rate.. he hit him with his hardest shot.. May took it and smiled.. then discouraged him.. he took the fight out of him.. Manny will be different.. he wont stop fighting.. which can.. and i think will to lead to his own knockout.. as he will offer mayweather that many more opportunities.. Shane vs Pac would be a better fight...

Bob Arum wouldn't go 100 miles of Shane.

[Illustrator76]

Quote: Originally Posted by grunt

How many times have BDF in our era been floored? If BDF doesn't have a chin his defense must be out this world. Shane Mosley has more one punch power than Manny and he was able to take Mosley power punches and continue to dominate him through the fight. Manny isn't Chavez because Chavez was a very sharp and accurate puncher while Manny is bordering on being wild. There are too many counter opportunities available against Manny. Do you really believe the BDF in our era is scared of a high energy, smaller fighter. Floyd can duplicate the speed of Manny in the gym easier than Manny can duplicate the defensive skill, speed, power, and quickness of the BDF in our era. BDF has seen faster fighter he use to spar against Pernell when he was a teenager and quick handed fighter is the norm for many African American fighters. You are going to see a small, quick fighter going against a bigger, stronger, and faster fighter in BDF. BDF in our era will hit manny and hit him often and he cut him up pretty bad. Just see the Manny/Clottey fight and see both fighter and imagine Manny being in a fight with a fighter that will counter off those arcing punches. Easy fight.

You are beyond hope if you really believe this is an easy fight for Mayweather. If it's such an easy fight, then why is Mayweather finding every reason (including retirement) to NOT fight Manny? Floyd doesn't have a chin, he has really good defense (I will give him that) and he fights people who are in no danger of hitting him, let alone hurting him. When he did fight someone who could hurt him, you saw what happened, he almost went down in the 2nd round off of one or two punches. If Shane didn't give up after not getting an instant KO, then things may have been different. Manny has power, speed, stamina and he doesn't give up. Floyd will be in trouble....period........if he mans up and takes the fight.

[Relentless]

Quote: Originally Posted by grunt

Bob Arum wouldn't go 100 miles of Shane.

True.. even roach said he was too good.. but im just saying that would be a great explosive fight.. close..

[King_B_Mack]

Quote: Originally Posted by Illustrator76

You are beyond hope if you really believe this is an easy fight for Mayweather. If it's such an easy fight, then why is Mayweather finding every reason (including retirement) to NOT fight Manny? Floyd doesn't have a chin, he has really good defense (I will give him that) and he fights people who are in no danger of hitting him, let alone hurting him. When he did fight someone who could hurt him, you saw what happened, he almost went down in the 2nd round off of one or two punches. If Shane didn't give up after not getting an instant KO, then things may have been different. Manny has power, speed, stamina and he doesn't give up. Floyd will be in trouble....period........if he mans up and takes the fight.

Dude you seriously need to take off your hate goggles for a bit. You're saying Floyd has no chin because he took someone's best shot flush and his knee buckled? Not he got knocked down, his knee buckled. If he had no chin, the fight would have been over after that shot, period. I knew it was a matter of time before the haters would come out in force discounting that Shane fight and Shane himself after spending the months leading up to it talking about Floyd "finally stepping up to a challenge" or "Getting prepared to get owned by Mosley." I guess you get credit though since I don't recall seeing you posting around here in the boxing section until now.

As for this being an easy fight, I personally don't think it will, but I certainly wouldn't be surprised if it was. Floyd and crew know how to gameplan and Pacquiao's fight against Clottey showed all you need to know from him. If Floyd really wanted to, he could just go into shell mode like Clottey early on which would throw Pacquiao off as he'd be expecting Floyd to be working the counterpunching game. See unlike most people, Floyd doesn't care about scoring KOs and he can wait out Manny's barrages of low percentage punches, running up his own accuracy points here and there along the way. Just like in the Clottey fight, Pac will get frustrated cause he wants the KOs and he'll get sloppy (moreso than usual) and that's when Floyd will take advantage and get into full counterpunch mode. I can definitely see that happening.

[grunt]

Quote: Originally Posted by Illustrator76

You are beyond hope if you really believe this is an easy fight for Mayweather. If it's such an easy fight, then why is Mayweather finding every reason (including retirement) to NOT fight Manny? Floyd doesn't have a chin, he has really good defense (I will give him that) and he fights people who are in no danger of hitting him, let alone hurting him. When he did fight someone who could hurt him, you saw what happened, he almost went down in the 2nd round off of one or two punches. If Shane didn't give up after not getting an instant KO, then things may have been different. Manny has power, speed, stamina and he doesn't give up. Floyd will be in trouble....period........if he mans up and takes the fight.

The main objective in prize fighting is the prize. The fight will happen and when it happen Mayweather will beat the smaller/slower fighter.

Just look at Pac face after his last fight and just imagine it was "Money". Pac people are scared of Shane but the so call coward took the fight and won.

When all those wild punches fall off Money gloves and he is leaving himself open to counter punches the fight may go the distance but you will see a very tenative Pac in the later rounds.

[grunt]

Quote: Originally Posted by King_B_Mack

Dude you seriously need to take off your hate goggles for a bit. You're saying Floyd has no chin because he took someone's best shot flush and his knee buckled? Not he got knocked down, his knee buckled. If he had no chin, the fight would have been over after that shot, period. I knew it was a matter of time before the haters would come out in force discounting that Shane fight and Shane himself after spending the months leading up to it talking about Floyd "finally stepping up to a challenge" or "Getting prepared to get owned by Mosley." I guess you get credit though since I don't recall seeing you posting around here in the boxing section until now. As for this being an easy fight, I personally don't think it will, but I certainly wouldn't be surprised if it was. Floyd and crew know how to gameplan and Pacquiao's fight against Clottey showed all you need to know from him. If Floyd really wanted to, he could just go into shell mode like Clottey early on which would throw Pacquiao off as he'd be expecting Floyd to be working the counterpunching game. See unlike most people, Floyd doesn't care about scoring KOs and he can wait out Manny's barrages of low percentage punches, running up his own accuracy points here and there along the way. Just like in the Clottey fight, Pac will get frustrated cause he wants the KOs and he'll get sloppy (moreso than usual) and that's when Floyd will take advantage and get into full counterpunch mode. I can definitely see that happening.

Easy fight.. Pac too wild for someone as skilled as Floyd. Just too many openings and Floyd is heavy handed. This fight has never been a good match up for Pac.

[King_B_Mack]

Quote: Originally Posted by grunt

Easy fight.. Pac too wild for someone as skilled as Floyd. Just too many openings and Floyd is heavy handed. This fight has never been a good match up for Pac.

You may be right, like I said I wouldn't be surprised if it was a cake walk for May. I know for sure it won't be as easy as Pac fans have convinced themselves it will be for Manny. IF he wins and that's a huge IF, he's gonna definitely work for it. Let some of these guys tell it, it's going to be a first round knockout for Manny cause they think he has more power than Shane....yeah ok.