Limits to Player Editing in EA Sports College Football 25 FAQ

[GoDucks1224]

Matt Brown said on this radio show you won't be able to edit ratings inside Dynasty. 7 minute mark roughly. You guys aren't gonna like what he says, just FYI.

[ncaafootball14markus]

Quote: Originally Posted by Vadiplomat04

The issue is that a lot of people stream gameplay or do youtube videos of gameplay. If you have a situation where a streamer or youtube content creator does a video where Quinn Ewers was edited to be a 5'3" weak armed QB, Ewers is not going to be happy about that. EA doesn't want to rock the boat legally at this point as we are just getting this game back. I'm thinking that for NIL players, we'll only be able to edit their ratings, no edits to height, weight, face, or hair. I think we'll be able to change their number as in Madden you are able to do that.

I'm confused. We can edit NFL, MLB, and NBA players' skill attributes. The only things we can't change are their physical. So, why wouldn't we be allowed to change the skill attributes of college players?

[GoDucks1224]

Quote: Originally Posted by ncaafootball14markus

I'm confused. We can edit NFL, MLB, and NBA players' skill attributes. The only things we can't change are their physical. So, why wouldn't we be allowed to change the skill attributes of college players?

Those leagues have players unions who cut a deal with EA/2K specifically so that users can do whatever they want with those players. There is no union for college players. So we can only do whatever was in the NIL agreement. If EA stipulated no ratings changes, then there will be no ratings changes. We don't know the exact details of the agreement, only that they signed their NIL over for the duration of their college career when they opted in, they get $600, and a free copy of the game.

[Dagan]

I'll be serious so as to not be mistaken this time around. A few serious questions, per contradictions (as I see them) are:

You just purchased these kids' NIL for their college careers in full, and you don't want to give anyone allowance to edit them, no matter how suddenly it winds up that your equipment, numbers, height and weight (because we all know how accurate that always is) and ratings "according to you" only come across?

You expect all of us to trust and/or wait for your company to only ever update all of these things instead, and you trust that it will meet everyone's approval?

What's the legal difference between your fake recruits generated compared to any we could come up with (idiot or prank names aside) ?

If I make a teambuilder team, which always removes another team in the game, then how is that any different regarding "editing," since that is beyond negating an entire team of NIL kids and their stats to beyond zero? That's removing their existence and participation completely, correct?

If I can change any team to play in any conference suddenly, then isn't that directly affecting stats, ratings, any NIL player's chosen preference to where they are? More importantly, if changing a school in or out of conferences therefore forces any single NIL player to transfer away from that school, isn't that possibility of seeing the eventual video of their name in a school uniform that they themselves and/or their actual school that they play for (in real life) make for a possibly messy, angry, litigious situation ???


I'm being serious this time. I can absolutely see any of these things being why / what tanks this game, if the powers that be can't just chill out and let fiction be fiction. Let a game be a freaking game, in full. I get being wary of some things, but that shouldn't make your ability to reason, use common sense or apply logic just completely shutdown and get tossed out the window.

[GoDucks1224]

Quote: Originally Posted by Dagan

I'll be serious so as to not be mistaken this time around. A few serious questions, per contradictions (as I see them) are: You just purchased these kids' NIL for their college careers in full, and you don't want to give anyone allowance to edit them, no matter how suddenly it winds up that your equipment, numbers, height and weight (because we all know how accurate that always is) and ratings "according to you" only come across? You expect all of us to trust and/or wait for your company to only ever update all of these things instead, and you trust that it will meet everyone's approval? What's the legal difference between your fake recruits generated compared to any we could come up with (idiot or prank names aside) ? If I make a teambuilder team, which always removes another team in the game, then how is that any different regarding "editing," since that is beyond negating an entire team of NIL kids and their stats to beyond zero? That's removing their existence and participation completely, correct? If I can change any team to play in any conference suddenly, then isn't that directly affecting stats, ratings, any NIL player's chosen preference to where they are? More importantly, if changing a school in or out of conferences therefore forces any single NIL player to transfer away from that school, isn't that possibility of seeing the eventual video of their name in a school uniform that they themselves and/or their actual school that they play for (in real life) make for a possibly messy, angry, litigious situation ??? I'm being serious this time. I can absolutely see any of these things being why / what tanks this game, if the powers that be can't just chill out and let fiction be fiction. Let a game be a freaking game, in full. I get being wary of some things, but that shouldn't make your ability to reason, use common sense or apply logic just completely shutdown and get tossed out the window.

I doubt we get many concrete answers to these unless someone shares the exact wording of the NIL agreement. But I reckon that in 2026 when revenue sharing comes in, the players will likely have formed a union. It's the logical next step, so when that happens EA will have a union to bargain with like they do with NFL/NHL and that would open the doors for us to have a lot more autonomy in game. So maybe you guys are just gonna have to wait a couple years if this really kills the game for you.

[noarmsduck]

Quote: Originally Posted by GoDucks1224

Matt Brown said on this radio show you won't be able to edit ratings inside Dynasty. 7 minute mark roughly. You guys aren't gonna like what he says, just FYI.

Appreciate the clip. Some of that doesn't make sense to me. Why allow created players, but disallow editing of generic recruits inside dynasty? Either option would let players create a guy like "March Spanning" so why is one in and not the other? It just so happens the one option (editing in a dynasty) is much more essential for playing a dynasty for many years.

I'm still taking this with a grain of salt and I'm going to wait until I get official info before I make a decision. I canceled my Xbox store preorder as I read somewhere that even though the site says you can do that 10 days before game release that sometimes Xbox cuts that off at 14 days from the date you give them the money. I figure it's a digital game so I can just order it again at any point anyways given the game ends up being what I want. Also saw a couple posts saying Matt Brown got a couple things wrong recently (they didn't specify or provide examples so take that with a grain of salt as well), plus he wasn't really giving a hard "this is the way this is in the game" but rather what he felt the game is likely to be based on what he knows.

It this holds up though it's bad news for me. I'll end up going back to NCAA 14 for longer than I originally planned, and hopefully Maximum Football has a significant improvement in on field gameplay and eventually the next EA game adds these editing options in.

[njoyner13]

Just my 2 cents. But this is what I think we will be able to edit based off all the articles from guys who got to play and interview developers.

Real NIL players: probably just equipment only. No name, physical appearance, number, and ratings.

Generic players (recruits): everything but their name.

Every article mentioning player editing has said the same thing over and over. That ratings will more than likely not be editable for the real NIL players. Which I’m fine with. However, we will have more access on editing the generic players. No where has it been mentioned that player editing is not in the game at all. Editing is more restrictive on the real players and players have more access on the generic players. I can’t imagine if they say you can edit the real players to an extent…that that extent would not include at least equipment. Don’t see what else would be left after name, ratings and appearance is blocked

[GoDucks1224]

Quote: Originally Posted by njoyner13

Just my 2 cents. But this is what I think we will be able to edit based off all the articles from guys who got to play and interview developers. Real NIL players: probably just equipment only. No name, physical appearance, number, and ratings. Generic players (recruits): everything but their name. Every article mentioning player editing has said the same thing over and over. That ratings will more than likely not be editable for the real NIL players. Which I’m fine with. However, we will have more access on editing the generic players. No where has it been mentioned that player editing is not in the game at all. Editing is more restrictive on the real players and players have more access on the generic players. I can’t imagine if they say you can edit the real players to an extent…that that extent would not include at least equipment. Don’t see what else would be left after name, ratings and appearance is blocked

I think we for sure can edit created players (for TB). But they're saying we can't edit players ratingts inside a dynasty. I would think that means generated players as well. Which, I'm kind of fine with when I think about what Matt said in that show. In real life when you recruit a player, you can't just edit his flaws out, or make him instantly go from a 3 star to a 5 star. So we just have to roll with what we are given. I mean, I never edited players ratings inside of dynasty anyway, but it seems like people are up in arms over the inability to make their 1 star team into a powerhouse overnight by cheating lol. As long as I can adjust equipment and jersey numbers I'm happy. Which no one has said can't be done yet.