FIFA 13 - Youth Academy and Player Growth

[Qb]

Tony & eye... keep it civil, please.

[Gnemi]

Tony Aaron - Amidst the bluster and rhetoric, I may have misunderstood some of your posts.

Take my skepticism with a grain of salt, not as an alarmist cue that "The Sky Is Falling!"

From your clarifications, it sounds like you're doing what *should* be feasible within the game: Take a smaller club and through successful scouting, within and without the club, make them competitive.

It does not work like that in the real world, at all, and most of us know that, but I think it's important to realize that EA's game can at times give us a glimpse of what things would ideally be like in the "real world". Let's take Everton for example, or even Newcastle. During the last two years, both teams have taken chances on certain players and watched them develop into superstars. It's only a matter of when, not if, they'll lose those players to bigger clubs. Look at all the comments from Ba and Felaini for evidence. Of course, it doesn't help that Newcastle started the year horribly, but I digress.

There is indeed one part of the game I've noted that is not positive this year IMO and it's the willingness of clubs to sell really high potential players. I picked up a few 18-20 year old studs, with potential in the mid-80s, for less than €1m.

All the same, I still prefer, by orders of magnitude, the mechanics of this year compared with last.

[FifaFan]

Does anyone know why it is so hard to find good strikers in your youth academy, but it is easy to find midfielders and defenders?

[Tony Aaron II]

Quote: Originally Posted by Gerrard778

Hey Tony Aaron II did i see in your pictures you posted that your managing Bradford City?? have any of your big players wanted to leave?

Yes, I'm managing Bradford City. And I'd say 4 have wanted to leave (basically all of the starts once).

But, and here's the "secret", so to speak, when that happens, it's only... and I do mean ONLY (at least for me to this point)... because the contract I offered (which is usually what I was suggested) was too small, and the teams they're rumored to want to go to can afford to pay more. WHEN THAT HAPPENS, and you can't submit a new contract to the player in the Squad Report or the Sell Player windows, go to Contracts under Managers Office and click on the player (should say "Refused Contract" as they're status) and submit a higher wage here. This is the only place, for whatever reason, you can attempt to submit them a new contract after they've denied the 1st extension and begun considering going elsewhere.

I've kept all the soon-to-be, or already, superstars who wanted to leave this way.

[Tony Aaron II]

Quote: Originally Posted by matix99x

I'm a sucker for homegrown players in my team. I'm from the netherlands and this is the main area i scout. Currently playing with NAC Breda and trying to implement as many youth squad players i can. I'm playing manager mode, scouted the players with the 9mljn scout, second season and these are the results. Name Current skill Potential skill Actual skill 1st season Anthony Wileart 57/61 80/86 59 Ryan Hadouir 67/71 87/93 69 Johan Buijs 68/76 88/94 71 Glenn Leeuwin 68/72 84/90 69 Pascal Cummings 66/70 88/94 69 Just Bizot 65/69 84/90 66 Leroy Kieftenbeld 67/71 86/92 68 Jordy van Aanholt 68/72 89/84 70

That's pretty ridiculous. lol, congrats. Now, my question is, how many of the have good work rates an skill and weak foot ratings??? I seem to only get 1 or 2 of those out of every group like this.

[Tony Aaron II]

Quote: Originally Posted by Gnemi

Tony Aaron - Amidst the bluster and rhetoric, I may have misunderstood some of your posts. Take my skepticism with a grain of salt, not as an alarmist cue that "The Sky Is Falling!" From your clarifications, it sounds like you're doing what *should* be feasible within the game: Take a smaller club and through successful scouting, within and without the club, make them competitive. It does not work like that in the real world, at all, and most of us know that, but I think it's important to realize that EA's game can at times give us a glimpse of what things would ideally be like in the "real world". Let's take Everton for example, or even Newcastle. During the last two years, both teams have taken chances on certain players and watched them develop into superstars. It's only a matter of when, not if, they'll lose those players to bigger clubs. Look at all the comments from Ba and Felaini for evidence. Of course, it doesn't help that Newcastle started the year horribly, but I digress. There is indeed one part of the game I've noted that is not positive this year IMO and it's the willingness of clubs to sell really high potential players. I picked up a few 18-20 year old studs, with potential in the mid-80s, for less than €1m. All the same, I still prefer, by orders of magnitude, the mechanics of this year compared with last.

I agree except for 1 minor, yet important note...

The price of nearly everything has decreased this year. AS HAS the amount of money your team generates from transfers (ESPECIALLY on 'Strict' as I am). So, when you're only getting back ~60% of the value of the players you're selling, it would be a HELL of a lot harder to get young talent if they were going for the same prices they were last year. And then you'd NEVER be able to really field a talented young team.

And here's another small fact I hadn't really talked about yet, I was basically broke the 1st 3 or 4 years. I had to sell A LOT of young, talented players (I'm talking AT LEAST like 12 or 13, maybe closer to 20) to get the $70 or so million I needed to buy the 2 soon-to-be superstars (keep in mind that I'd already paid about $30 million + a young talent for the player I then turned around the next year and traded + $10 million for the 6'6 Abraham stud).

None of that money came from league earnings or anything like that, and it was all at ~60% of the selling price of the very same CHEAP young talents. That's actually quite balanced when you look at it from that perspective.

[Tony Aaron II]

Quote: Originally Posted by FifaFan

Does anyone know why it is so hard to find good strikers in your youth academy, but it is easy to find midfielders and defenders?

It isn't hard to find them. It's hard to find good strikers that are anywhere near as DOMINANT as the couple of CPU youth strikers that will pop up with CRAZY physical abilities and such.

Back when I was seeking youth strikers heavily, I found 3 or 4 PRETTY good 1s. I now have 1 playing in my mid field. He's rated an 81, he's 20 years old, he's got the Distance Shooter specialty, and a 5* weak foot and 4* skill moves. (5'9 - Brazil)

[Tony Aaron II]

Stay Away From CBs, Go For CDMs w/ High Def Work Rates Instead


There will be plenty of CDMs with high work rates who turn out to be just as good at marking and tackling as the CBs, but are usually MUUUUUCH better at intercepts and aggression (often times coming IN with Tactician), who also usually have better technical abilities... and sometimes tend to be QUITE tall. Have a soon to be superstar CDM who is 6'6, an Ariel Threat, has a high defensive work rate, is rated an 80 OVR, and is 19 years old. He marks, tackles, and short passes like a monster (80-96), is strong (80), and is actually quite quick (ACC 68, SPD 76).

Now, why the hell would I play a 6'0 CB over that???