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[nunogomes]

Quote: Originally Posted by fearwhatnow

Sounds good. Could you please provide more in depth details for cpu AI, Goalkeeping, Fouls and build up play? Cpu on-the-fly and late match tactical changes? Thanks.

Not in-depth, but better than nothing, right?

CPU A.I. - can´t even say how awesome it is, specially compared to Fifa. Miles and miles ahead! Very human like! (and they shoot the ball!!!)

Goalkeeping - Very good except in one chapter where they are incredibly bad: in one-on-one situations they do not leave the goal line, and it makes it easier to score. They DO leave the goal line (and they do it VERY well) in through ball passes, they even leave the box completely to clear the ball, but inside the box if you are one on one, they don´t close the angles well. But being one on one with the GK is really difficulty to achieve so...

Fouls - just like Fifa. Not enough of them! However, when against teams with a high pressure rating they foul more often AND they will foul you very frequently if you use feints.

Build up play - this is... brilliant. No more words needed...

Cpu on-the-fly and late match tactical changes - opposite of Fifa where it is absolutely scripted. In Fifa, if you are loosing by one goal, CPU will ALWAYS and ALL teams go to All Out Defence in the last 5 minutes. In PES, they clearly change during the match according the score AND your OWN changes!! Again, brilliant!

So, in conclusion, the only BIG problem this game has gameplay wise is the one-on-one with the GK inside the box. Everything else on the pitch is miles ahead of Fifa (and yes, we need to compare, if you lived all alone in the world you wouldn´t know anything about you, if you were tall, short, fat, thin, etc... you do by comparison to others. Same thing applies here).

[RoyceDa59]

Quote: Originally Posted by mockme

Then again, if I want in-depth football management I've always got Football Manager. From what I understand PES has better gameplay than FIFA, more variety between teams, and tactics that actually have an effect on the match.

I will be playing PES for mostly for BAL and Cup tournaments. Like you, Football Manager also satisfies my in-depth footy needs.

[xicpanad]

[quote=nunogomes;2046801798]Not in-depth, but better than nothing, right?

Fouls - just like Fifa. Not enough of them! However, when against teams with a high pressure rating they foul more often AND they will foul you very frequently if you use feints.

Not true. In this aspect, Fifa is miles ahead, and that´s one of the reasons why I love it. Its something that really bothers me and prevents me from buying this game right away.


Cpu on-the-fly and late match tactical changes - opposite of Fifa where it is absolutely scripted. In Fifa, if you are loosing by one goal, CPU will ALWAYS and ALL teams go to All Out Defence in the last 5 minutes. In PES, they clearly change during the match according the score AND your OWN changes!! Again, brilliant!

I can´t see what´s the diference here. Maybe you didn´t explain exactly what you wanted to say? In Fifa, CPU does change tactics according to the score and time of the match. Perhaps in PES, the way CPU plays shows it more realistic then Fifa.

Everything else I agree with. PES looks and feels great, except for lack of fouls and GK´s reactions in some situations.

[rckabillyRaider]

Quote: Originally Posted by fearwhatnow

Sorry for the little off-topic. Game is now on Steam: http://store.steampowered.com/app/287680/?cc=au

Seems like it's still locked though, but I wonder if that's just for European accounts? I'm tempted to purchase it.

[ezio]

Quote: Originally Posted by Steve_OS

Anyone try online games yet? Curious how that is holding up.

Steve,

I played a few My Club games online and 1 or 2 regular ones and only had a problem in one game and then I got disconnected with the message about the connection worsening. Other than that it has been good so far.

[nunogomes]

[quote=xicpanad;2046801830]

Quote: Originally Posted by nunogomes

Not in-depth, but better than nothing, right? Fouls - just like Fifa. Not enough of them! However, when against teams with a high pressure rating they foul more often AND they will foul you very frequently if you use feints. Not true. In this aspect, Fifa is miles ahead, and that´s one of the reasons why I love it. Its something that really bothers me and prevents me from buying this game right away. Cpu on-the-fly and late match tactical changes - opposite of Fifa where it is absolutely scripted. In Fifa, if you are loosing by one goal, CPU will ALWAYS and ALL teams go to All Out Defence in the last 5 minutes. In PES, they clearly change during the match according the score AND your OWN changes!! Again, brilliant! I can´t see what´s the diference here. Maybe you didn´t explain exactly what you wanted to say? In Fifa, CPU does change tactics according to the score and time of the match. Perhaps in PES, the way CPU plays shows it more realistic then Fifa. Everything else I agree with. PES looks and feels great, except for lack of fouls and GK´s reactions in some situations.

About the fouls, i played a complete season with Chelsea and i had CPU teams with 1 to 3 or 4 fouls (20 minute game) per game. I was playing with edited sliders (from this site) so maybe you played with a different set and that´s the reason we see different things here, right?

About the tactical changes in CPU, the example i gave was to ilustrate how scripted the tactical changes seemed to me in FIFA. They were changed with time and score in mind, but in exact scores and time, ALL the time, in every single game. In PES, sometimes CPU changes the tactic with a 0-0 score early. For example, if i start bombing through balls they will lower the line. With no goals scored. That won´t happen in Fifa, it´s 100% related with time and score, never, with the actual play on the field.

Hope i expressed my point of view better this time.

And yes, the GK have this pretty big flaw in one-on-one situations inside box.

Also, just noticed that in 5 free kicks against me near the box, CPU scored 3 goals. I bit too much, althoug one was Pirlo and the other was Ronaldo so... can´t say overpowered yet... lets see....

[fearwhatnow]

Quote: Originally Posted by rckabillyRaider

Seems like it's still locked though, but I wonder if that's just for European accounts? I'm tempted to purchase it.

It's locked for Europe. It's available in Australia.

[rckabillyRaider]

Quote: Originally Posted by fearwhatnow

It's locked for Europe. It's available in Australia.

I'm in the US. I don't see it listed for us yet. I'll wait