MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

[Bard]

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He's a righty who throws in the triple digits.

Knew he pumped it fast, just thought he was a lefty for some reason haha.

He is only an 84 potential though. I'm in year 2 btw

Realistically he probably wouldn't be dealt, but then again in year two and it looks like he has dropped a bit...? I would pull the trigger and attempt to get him as long as the Astros are getting back a good potential pitcher in return. Prospects for prospects deals are the hardest to judge imo.

[NDAlum]

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I'm the Astros in my chise and no way would I give up Folty who throws 99-100 easily and hits 102!!! He's young and has the potential to be a solid #2/#3 starter and will K a ton of guys with his heat.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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He is only an 84 potential though. I'm in year 2 btw

Unless the Astros have gone from rags to riches in 1 year, I don't see it. Getting prospects from bad teams is generally a no no for realism...unless you are trading an equally touted, equally young, equally highly-ranked prospect at a different position.

[Friar Fanatic]

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Unless the Astros have gone from rags to riches in 1 year, I don't see it. Getting prospects from bad teams is generally a no no for realism...unless you are trading an equally touted, equally young, equally highly-ranked prospect at a different position.

I think you're missing the point. He dropped off a lot. he is only 84 pot and is on the verge of dropping down to 81 pot. I don't think he is as highly touted anymore.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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I think you're missing the point. He dropped off a lot. he is only 84 pot and is on the verge of dropping down to 81 pot. I don't think he is as highly touted anymore.

Hey man, do what you want to do. It's your chise. But, no, it's not realistic to consider. I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks the same.

[AC]

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Folty's only a good prospect, he isn't a stud. If the Astros got a young MLB piece for him they'd absolutely do it. Who were you giving up and what are his K/BB/IP numbers in the minors?

[Friar Fanatic]

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Hey man, do what you want to do. It's your chise. But, no, it's not realistic to consider. I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks the same.

I'm just trying to understand why it isn't realistic, not trying to argue with you.

[Friar Fanatic]

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Folty's only a good prospect, he isn't a stud. If the Astros got a young MLB piece for him they'd absolutely do it. Who were you giving up and what are his K/BB/IP numbers in the minors?

He has pitched 7 games so far in year 2. He has 40 IP with 28 Ks and 22 BBs with a near 7 ERA and his WHIP is not very good but I don't remember the exact number.

His potential is now 84, idk what it was before year 1. I was willing to give up Maybin, Hedges (if they would even want him), Jace Peterson, Johnny Barbato (22 year old 82 potential and I think high 60 or low 70 overall), and or Casey Kelly. I also have a handful of 23-25 year old SPs with 83-86 potential.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Folty's only a good prospect, he isn't a stud. If the Astros got a young MLB piece for him they'd absolutely do it. Who were you giving up and what are his K/BB/IP numbers in the minors?

This is false. Folty is a stud prospect. He has command issues and secondary offering issues, but what MiLB prospect doesn't have these concerns? Maybe you find a precedent for HOU dealing young SP with the Lyles/Fowler trade but Lyles and Folty are not really comparable at all.

I'm just trying to understand why it isn't realistic, not trying to argue with you.

The Astros, a bad team, dealing away a 22/23-y/o SP top prospect that throws 100 mph is what I find unrealistic.

[AC]

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Do you guys think the Cubs would have dealt Mike Olt this last offseason?

[Friar Fanatic]

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This is false. Folty is a stud prospect. He has command issues and secondary offering issues, but what MiLB prospect doesn't have these concerns? Maybe you find a precedent for HOU dealing young SP with the Lyles/Fowler trade but Lyles and Folty are not really comparable at all.



The Astros, a bad team, dealing away a 22/23-y/o SP top prospect that throws 100 mph is what I find unrealistic.

Judging by their roster he isn't even a top 5 SP prospect for them

Do you guys think the Cubs would have dealt Mike Olt this last offseason?

For the right value ya. They have Bryant so Olt is expendable.

[AC]

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This is false. Folty is a stud prospect. He has command issues and secondary offering issues, but what MiLB prospect doesn't have these concerns? Maybe you find a precedent for HOU dealing young SP with the Lyles/Fowler trade but Lyles and Folty are not really comparable at all.

Lol, that's an absolute statement. Especially on a pitcher who's never posed a FIP below 3.88 in the minors, has a career MiLB 4.21 SIERA, has huge walk rates, lacks fastball command, needs to work on his breaking ball (has potential), was ranked #70 by Law, #59 by BA, and 62 by MLB.com. He can pump it in there, but he's never actually showed results in the minors, which is problematic, the talent evaluators don't think he's a /stud/, and he's walking everyone.

He's a good prospect. He has good upside. But lol @ being so definitive.

[The Chef]

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Out of curiosity, I let a deal for the CPU go through but wanted to see what others thought. Part of me wanted to veto it and the other part of me thought it made sense. Minnesota traded Joe Mauer to Pittsburgh for Gaby Sanchez and two "A" SP prospects (names I can't recall off the top of my head as I don't have the game on). Minnesota is pretty much guaranteed to miss the playoffs, Pittsburgh is leading the NL Central by 1 game over St Louis and Cincinnati and we are just before the All-Star break. I figure Pittsburgh is making a push for the playoffs and get a really good 1B in the deal but at the same time they are mortgaging this year against the future by dealing away 2 "A" prospects which could be considered too much. Looked at the spreadsheet and it said 2 "A" and 1 "B" for Mauer which is pretty much what they ended up getting. Any thoughts?

[AC]

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I don't see the need for Gaby but yeah, that works.

[Friar Fanatic]

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Out of curiosity, I let a deal for the CPU go through but wanted to see what others thought. Part of me wanted to veto it and the other part of me thought it made sense. Minnesota traded Joe Mauer to Pittsburgh for Gaby Sanchez and two "A" SP prospects (names I can't recall off the top of my head as I don't have the game on). Minnesota is pretty much guaranteed to miss the playoffs, Pittsburgh is leading the NL Central by 1 game over St Louis and Cincinnati and we are just before the All-Star break. I figure Pittsburgh is making a push for the playoffs and get a really good 1B in the deal but at the same time they are mortgaging this year against the future by dealing away 2 "A" prospects which could be considered too much. Looked at the spreadsheet and it said 2 "A" and 1 "B" for Mauer which is pretty much what they ended up getting. Any thoughts?

Kind of what AC said. It sounds good but Gaby is just kind of a throw in I guess. But it sounds like a great trade for Minny. Meyer and those 2 SPs could make for a deadly rotation.