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  • Totte
    MVP
    • Mar 2005
    • 2919

    #301
    Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by stlcards234
    Also, when you say "high B", I know you guys mean around 87-89 potential. But how do you guys weight in overall? For example, a 71 OVR with 87 potential will probably carry more weight than a 56 OVR with 89 potential despite both being "high B." (In this scenario, lets assume they are the same age)

    Been focusing so much on the spreadsheet with trade values that I haven't loaded up the ps3 game more than once. Gonna have to look into this closer later on when the spreadsheet is completed
    Former modder of "Ultimate Rosters" for MVP Baseball 2005.

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    • AC
      Win the East
      • Sep 2010
      • 14951

      #302
      Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by 1andonly
      What do you guys think? Should I give up more? Is it fine? Thoughts?
      I think you can get a little something back with Miller.
      "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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      • 1andonly
        Pro
        • Sep 2010
        • 567

        #303
        Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by ACMilan99
        I think you can get a little something back with Miller.
        Such as Kelly + Miller?

        If I wanted to I could trade Headley and Corey Lubke for Wacha and Miller or I can do Headley for Miller and Kelly

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        • AC
          Win the East
          • Sep 2010
          • 14951

          #304
          Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by 1andonly
          Such as Kelly + Miller?

          If I wanted to I could trade Headley and Corey Lubke for Wacha and Miller or I can do Headley for Miller and Kelly
          Okay now that's way, way unfair.

          I don't value Kelly all that much. I mean, you could get Kelly back if you wanted to, but the Cards are already dealing a starter, doubt they'd deal another. You could get maybe a prospect back, or you could go for Carlos Martinez rather than Shelby Miller.
          "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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          • 1andonly
            Pro
            • Sep 2010
            • 567

            #305
            Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by ACMilan99
            Okay now that's way, way unfair.

            I don't value Kelly all that much. I mean, you could get Kelly back if you wanted to, but the Cards are already dealing a starter, doubt they'd deal another. You could get maybe a prospect back, or you could go for Carlos Martinez rather than Shelby Miller.
            Ok then I'll just do Headley for Miller straight up since I don't care too much about any hitting prospects from them. That seems pretty fair too.

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            • Jcrome
              Rookie
              • May 2013
              • 135

              #306
              Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

              Starting up a mets Franchise after the game releases on PS4, so I'm wondering what realistic trades I could do to get rid of some of the pitchers, which there is a surplus of and bring in someone who could add offensively. I was thinking maybe a shortstop like Starlin Castro or someone or maybe an outfielder with speed but who can also hit fairly well. Any ideas and what do you think it would take to get castro.

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              • AC
                Win the East
                • Sep 2010
                • 14951

                #307
                Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                Originally posted by Jcrome
                Starting up a mets Franchise after the game releases on PS4, so I'm wondering what realistic trades I could do to get rid of some of the pitchers, which there is a surplus of and bring in someone who could add offensively. I was thinking maybe a shortstop like Starlin Castro or someone or maybe an outfielder with speed but who can also hit fairly well. Any ideas and what do you think it would take to get castro.
                Wheeler for Castro would probably work.
                "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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                • ggsimmonds
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 11235

                  #308
                  Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                  Can't remember the specific players involved (sorry) but in my O's franchise I traded Tommy Hunter (CP rated 79) to the Angels for a backup catcher rated 72, RP Joe Smith, and a utility infielder rated in the low seventies.

                  Moving ahead I originally planned on trading either Nick Markakis or Michael Cuddyer (picked up via FA) near the trade deadline for a A prospect but now I am having second thoughts. Nick is batting around .300 and still giving me solid defense while Cuddyer has been my MVP at the plate (and versatile). They both only have a year remaining on their contract so I am a bit unsure as to what to do.

                  I will wait until at least the all star break to make my final decision but it weighs heavily on my mind every time they are at bat.

                  **To anyone wondering why I would sign Cuddyer when I had Markakis only to turn around and consider trading him, it was something of an accident. I submitted a qualifying offer to Markakis assuming he would find another home. I then signed Cuddyer and 3 days later Nick accepted my offer. oops**

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                  • RogueHominid
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 10900

                    #309
                    Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                    A's trade question:

                    I have an overabundance of arms, both in the rotation and in the pen, and I could easily part with some good ones in exchange for an everyday starter who could upgrade my lineup.

                    From the rotation I could move Milone, Griffin, or Parker.

                    From the pen, I could move Johnson or Gregorson.

                    In the lineup, I have Daric Barton and Eric Sogard playing everyday and could use someone in the IF who can hit. I have tremendous positional versatility, so I could pursue a 3B, moving Donaldson to 1B, a SS, moving Lowrie to 2B, a 2B, moving Sogard to the bench, or a 1B, placing Moss permanently at the DH spot. I could also pursue a full-time DH type, moving Moss to 1 B permanently.

                    One other option would be finding a way to make Reddick a roll player. I like his fielding capacity, but he is just above average against RHP and is a liability vs. LHP. I would want someone capable with the glove, but perhaps better balanced vs. LHP.

                    I just feel like winning consistently is too hard with the lineup I currently field, and I really could do without one or more of those arms. I could move Chavez into the rotation, could put Blanton in LR, and could move players like Fernandez, Otero, Pomeranz and even Abad into the pen.

                    BTW, I'm using SCEA rosters, so suggestions should either be for MLB players, for SCEA minor leaguers, or for minor league "types" whom I could search out using the player search feature with potential ratings judged appropriate by the community.

                    Thanks!

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                    • Totte
                      MVP
                      • Mar 2005
                      • 2919

                      #310
                      Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by Trojan Man
                      A's trade question:



                      I have an overabundance of arms, both in the rotation and in the pen, and I could easily part with some good ones in exchange for an everyday starter who could upgrade my lineup.



                      From the rotation I could move Milone, Griffin, or Parker.



                      From the pen, I could move Johnson or Gregorson.



                      In the lineup, I have Daric Barton and Eric Sogard playing everyday and could use someone in the IF who can hit. I have tremendous positional versatility, so I could pursue a 3B, moving Donaldson to 1B, a SS, moving Lowrie to 2B, a 2B, moving Sogard to the bench, or a 1B, placing Moss permanently at the DH spot. I could also pursue a full-time DH type, moving Moss to 1 B permanently.



                      One other option would be finding a way to make Reddick a roll player. I like his fielding capacity, but he is just above average against RHP and is a liability vs. LHP. I would want someone capable with the glove, but perhaps better balanced vs. LHP.



                      I just feel like winning consistently is too hard with the lineup I currently field, and I really could do without one or more of those arms. I could move Chavez into the rotation, could put Blanton in LR, and could move players like Fernandez, Otero, Pomeranz and even Abad into the pen.



                      BTW, I'm using SCEA rosters, so suggestions should either be for MLB players, for SCEA minor leaguers, or for minor league "types" whom I could search out using the player search feature with potential ratings judged appropriate by the community.



                      Thanks!

                      Tommy Milone to Milwaukee for Aramis Ramirez.

                      Luke Gregerson and Tommy Milone to the Cubs for Darwin Barney and Nate Schierholtz. Or go big by aiming for Starlin Castro by offering Jarrod Parker, AJ Griffin and Luke Gregerson for Castro/Schierholtz

                      AJ Griffin to NYM for Ike Davis (or Daniel Murphy). Maybe Parker for both of them. Just throwing out scenarios here.
                      Former modder of "Ultimate Rosters" for MVP Baseball 2005.

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                      • AC
                        Win the East
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 14951

                        #311
                        Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by Totte
                        Tommy Milone to Milwaukee for Aramis Ramirez.

                        Luke Gregerson and Tommy Milone to the Cubs for Darwin Barney and Nate Schierholtz. Or go big by aiming for Starlin Castro by offering Jarrod Parker, AJ Griffin and Luke Gregerson for Castro/Schierholtz
                        None of these are really fair whatsoever. Milone is a 6th SP, Gregerson is a reliever and Parker is a league average SP. Castro is a shortstop entering his peak with a league average bat and Schierholtz is sneaky valuable. Barney probably has some value. And the Cubs have exactly 0 need for a reliever as a rebuilding team.
                        "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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                        • RogueHominid
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Aug 2006
                          • 10900

                          #312
                          Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by Totte
                          Tommy Milone to Milwaukee for Aramis Ramirez.

                          Luke Gregerson and Tommy Milone to the Cubs for Darwin Barney and Nate Schierholtz. Or go big by aiming for Starlin Castro by offering Jarrod Parker, AJ Griffin and Luke Gregerson for Castro/Schierholtz

                          AJ Griffin to NYM for Ike Davis (or Daniel Murphy). Maybe Parker for both of them. Just throwing out scenarios here.
                          Why I love The Show forums: this response.

                          You guys over here are so knowledgeable and helpful--thanks! I like the idea of picking up either Barney or Castro; I had thought about both as potential targets to myself, but I wasn't sure if that would be believable.

                          While the real A's wouldn't do this just yet, I just can't stomach the lineup I'm fielding for an entire season.

                          I hadn't thought about the guys on the Mets, but they would be very well served by a third young arm to build around.

                          In my experience, I can win with both Griffin and Parker, but Griffin labors too much and walks a lot of guys. And Parker, well he's just fine, but I hate his delivery. Totally idiosyncratic, but it feels like he takes forever to deliver the ball and I loathe the days I have to pitch with him.

                          I'll look into each of these possibilities.

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                          • AC
                            Win the East
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 14951

                            #313
                            Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by Trojan Man
                            You guys over here are so knowledgeable and helpful--thanks! I like the idea of picking up either Barney or Castro; I had thought about both as potential targets to myself, but I wasn't sure if that would be believable.
                            If you want Barney, A.J. Griffin is a solid starting point, and if you want Castro, the starting point is Sonny Gray, no question. Sonny Gray + Josh Reddick/Craig Gentry might be able to get a deal done.
                            "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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                            • RogueHominid
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 10900

                              #314
                              Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by ACMilan99
                              None of these are really fair whatsoever. Milone is a 6th SP, Gregerson is a reliever and Parker is a league average SP. Castro is a shortstop entering his peak with a league average bat and Schierholtz is sneaky valuable. Barney probably has some value. And the Cubs have exactly 0 need for a reliever as a rebuilding team.
                              Just saw this response. Thanks for that!

                              I'm not sure about stats, but at an 81 OVR w/ B potential, Parker seems like a pretty strong middle-of-the-rotation guy who could even be the #2 on a handful of teams. He always has great stats for me when I use him.

                              The other two are plus players, with Milone as a nice option as a long-man in the game and Gregorson being a plus addition to most pens, at least as they're rated by OVR in the game.

                              But you know the real-life scenarios much better than I do.

                              Are there potential packages or targets out there that would land me an IF who is better than Either Barton or Sogard in your mind?

                              Thanks in advance!

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                              • AC
                                Win the East
                                • Sep 2010
                                • 14951

                                #315
                                Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by Trojan Man
                                Are there potential packages or targets out there that would land me an IF who is better than Either Barton or Sogard in your mind?

                                Thanks in advance!
                                Like I posted above, Castro for Gray + OF could work. Looking elsewhere, by midseason, if the Jays are out of it, Jose Reyes would be available, but his salary might be a bit much. Didi Gregorious is almost certainly available if you like his glove and want to keep Lowrie at 2nd. Don't move Donaldson to first, by the way. It'd sap a ton of his value. If you want a slugging 1B, go for Pablo Sandoval from across the bay, you could probably assemble a package around Jarrod Parker for him. If the Phillies are out of it, Chase Utley is a great option. Brian Dozier is a sneaky good 2B option. Howie Kendrick could probably be acquired for Jarrod Parker as well. Asdrubal Cabrera could be acquired for something like A.J. Griffin.

                                Of course, you could also pick up Stephen Drew from the FA list.
                                "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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