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  • Friar Fanatic
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    • May 2012
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    #3286
    Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by k_mac
    You're in the 2015 season, correct? The 2015 free agent class doesn't look to be anything spectacular (at least the list I'm looking at) but there a lot of quality guys who will hit the market in 2016. They should have one year left in your franchise, so some could be likely to move.

    Those guys are: Yeonis Cespedes, Jason Heyward, Rick Porcello, Brett Anderson, Mat Latos, Justin Upton, Austin Jackson, Kris Medlen.

    I could see the A's trading Cespedes if they don't think they can resign him + they're not contending. Hedges + a mid B pitching prospect should work there.

    Not exactly sure what positions you need, but since you wanted SP, 1B and OF in your last post I'm going to assume that's it. I also don't know who you have, so no idea what's an upgrade, lol. Here's some more options, and I'm trying to keep it as young as I can.

    1B: Brandon Belt, Justin Smoak, Chris Carter, Darin Ruf, Matt Adams

    OF: Colby Rasmus, Dayan Viciedo, Adam Eaton, Michael Brantley, Josh Reddick, Dustin Ackley, Leonys Martin, Domonic Brown, Khris Davis, Carlos Gomez, Jose Tabata, Peter Bourjos

    SP: Alex Cobb, Jeremy Hellickson, Trevor Bauer, Sonny Gray, A.J. Griffin, Mike Minor, Tony Cingrani

    Some of those guys might require a slight overpay. It's tough to land younger impact players because teams value them so highly, plus I have no idea who's contending, playing poorly, progressed greatly, etc in your franchise. Hopefully this helps a little though.
    Wow! Thanks for such a in depth response!! Much appreciated!

    My lineup and rotation is good all around, BUT I would love to trade some of these younger prospects for a proven player to upgrade somewhere.

    It looks like this:
    C: Grandal/Hundley
    1B: Lilly (2014 draft)/Victor Martinez (2014 FA)
    2B: Altuve
    SS: Cabrera
    3B: Gyorko
    LF: Alonso/Quentin
    CF: Shuck/Venable
    RF: Piscotty/Blackmon (2014 FA)

    SP: Cashner > Wisler > Kennedy > Ross > Marco Gonzales.

    So for example. I wouldn't mind trading for Hosmer and throwing him in RF. Or trading for Gomez and throwing him in CF or something of the sort. I like the Cespedes idea. Cespedes is in year 2/2 in his contract and will be a FA after 2015.


    Out of your whole list I like, Cespedes, Heyward and Upton. All 3 are in their final year and will be FAs after this season. So will Jay Bruce.

    Also Matt Harvey is on a one year deal. They do have Syn, Wheeler and Montero plus 4 Mid-High Bs. Could he be had? Maybe switch Hedges to 1B and throw in some OF prospects?

    In a trade for Harvey here is what I have available for trade. C Hedges (Low A) + OF Liriano (High B), SS Peterson (Low B), OF Maybin (High C), OF Renfroe (Mid B), CL Quackenbush/Barbato (Low B).

    Also if it changes anything I can throw in Venable, Quentin (both came off great 2014 seasons), Kennedy, Tyson Ross, Erlin plus I got a bunch of Mid B SPs
    Last edited by Friar Fanatic; 06-09-2014, 11:39 PM.

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    • mgcst5
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      • Jun 2011
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      #3287
      Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by Friar Fanatic
      Wow! Thanks for such a in depth response!! Much appreciated!



      My lineup and rotation is good all around, BUT I would love to trade some of these younger prospects for a proven player to upgrade somewhere.



      It looks like this:

      C: Grandal/Hundley

      1B: Lilly (2014 draft)/Victor Martinez (2014 FA)

      2B: Altuve

      SS: Cabrera

      3B: Gyorko

      LF: Alonso/Quentin

      CF: Shuck/Venable

      RF: Piscotty/Blackmon (2014 FA)



      SP: Cashner > Wisler > Kennedy > Ross > Marco Gonzales.



      So for example. I wouldn't mind trading for Hosmer and throwing him in RF. Or trading for Gomez and throwing him in CF or something of the sort. I like the Cespedes idea. Cespedes is in year 2/2 in his contract and will be a FA after 2015.





      Out of your whole list I like, Cespedes, Heyward and Upton. All 3 are in their final year and will be FAs after this season. So will Jay Bruce.



      Also Matt Harvey is on a one year deal. They do have Syn, Wheeler and Montero plus 4 Mid-High Bs. Could he be had? Maybe switch Hedges to 1B and throw in some OF prospects?



      In a trade for Harvey here is what I have available for trade. C Hedges (Low A) + OF Liriano (High B), SS Peterson (Low B), OF Maybin (High C), OF Renfroe (Mid B), CL Quackenbush/Barbato (Low B).



      Also if it changes anything I can throw in Venable, Quentin (both came off great 2014 seasons), Kennedy, Tyson Ross, Erlin plus I got a bunch of Mid B SPs

      Let me preface this by saying I love seeing your outside the box thinking, especially when it comes to position switches but I think Hedges only has value as a catcher. Unless he has really broken out offensively his defense at catcher is what makes him such a promising prospect. Again i love the creativity but if you are focused on realism I would try to trade Hedges to a catcher starved team. Just my two cents I totally understand if you disagree.

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      • JBearsL
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        • Sep 2010
        • 120

        #3288
        Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by mgcst5
        Let me preface this by saying I love seeing your outside the box thinking, especially when it comes to position switches but I think Hedges only has value as a catcher. Unless he has really broken out offensively his defense at catcher is what makes him such a promising prospect. Again i love the creativity but if you are focused on realism I would try to trade Hedges to a catcher starved team. Just my two cents I totally understand if you disagree.
        I completely agree with this and was about to post something similar. Hedges is such a great prospect because he is a catcher with great defense. I really don't think he will hit enough to be an everyday 1B and even moving him to a corner OF spot decreases his value a lot. There are quite a few teams out there that could use a promising young catcher, I just don't think he's very valuable if he's moved off of catcher.

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        • Friar Fanatic
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          #3289
          Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by mgcst5
          Let me preface this by saying I love seeing your outside the box thinking, especially when it comes to position switches but I think Hedges only has value as a catcher. Unless he has really broken out offensively his defense at catcher is what makes him such a promising prospect. Again i love the creativity but if you are focused on realism I would try to trade Hedges to a catcher starved team. Just my two cents I totally understand if you disagree.
          Personally (at least in the game). I feel like his defense is wasted at catcher. What's the point of having good reaction and fielding as a catcher? Maybe if the a team has someone at catcher have them move to a different position? Not really sure.

          If I was gonna use Hedges for my team I was going to put him at 1B. I see what you guys are saying though, that makes sense. If I were to trade him to a team that has a catcher, what do you think about moving their catcher to first base? Like D'Arnaud?

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          • mgcst5
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            #3290
            Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by Friar Fanatic
            Personally (at least in the game). I feel like his defense is wasted at catcher. What's the point of having good reaction and fielding as a catcher? Maybe if the a team has someone at catcher have them move to a different position? Not really sure.



            If I was gonna use Hedges for my team I was going to put him at 1B.

            Again its totally your decision, im not trying to tell you how to 'chise but I do think the defensive ratings hold a lot of value at catcher. I can't confirm what rating contributes to what but when I have played with catchers with higher defensive ratings(i use the Orioles a lot and Wieters is a treat) they seem to block more balls, set up quicker, shut down the run game, etc. defensively he makes sense at first but his offensive profile is weak. We may also be using different rosters since the one i have has all his fielding ratings in the 70s but contact in the 40s and power in the 20s.

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            • Friar Fanatic
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              #3291
              Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

              Originally posted by mgcst5
              Again its totally your decision, im not trying to tell you how to 'chise but I do think the defensive ratings hold a lot of value at catcher. I can't confirm what rating contributes to what but when I have played with catchers with higher defensive ratings(i use the Orioles a lot and Wieters is a treat) they seem to block more balls, set up quicker, shut down the run game, etc. defensively he makes sense at first but his offensive profile is weak. We may also be using different rosters since the one i have has all his fielding ratings in the 70s but contact in the 40s and power in the 20s.
              I got OSFM v2 but I'm in year 2 so he's progressed a bit. I also edited his arm strength to match his pop time (which is near Yadi's pop time). He has high 70s everything defensively and 87 arm strength. But ya he has the same offensive ratings as you. The blocking and arm help a lot of catcher I agree.

              I guess I'll just leave him there then. Think D'Arnaud can handle 1B or na?

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              • mgcst5
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                #3292
                Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                Originally posted by Friar Fanatic
                I got OSFM v2 but I'm in year 2 so he's progressed a bit. I also edited his arm strength to match his pop time (which is near Yadi's pop time). He has high 70s everything defensively and 87 arm strength. But ya he has the same offensive ratings as you. The blocking and arm help a lot of catcher I agree.

                I guess I'll just leave him there then. Think D'Arnaud can handle 1B or na?

                It diminishes his value a bit but he should be able too. He has a much better offensive profile. Are there any other catcher starved teams?

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                • Friar Fanatic
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                  #3293
                  Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by mgcst5
                  It diminishes his value a bit but he should be able too. He has a much better offensive profile. Are there any other catcher starved teams?
                  Was thinking about OAK, CHW, CHC, TOR, PHI, PIT. Hedges would be the main piece, but I also have good OF/SP prospects to deal
                  Last edited by Friar Fanatic; 06-10-2014, 12:36 AM.

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                  • mgcst5
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                    • Jun 2011
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                    #3294
                    Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by Friar Fanatic
                    Was thinking about OAK, CHW, CHC, TOR, PHI, PIT. Hedges would be the main piece, but I also have good OF/SP prospects to deal

                    You could probably swing Cespedes for him + a minor piece depending on how Ces is doing. If you are more inclined to get a pitcher the package you mentioned for Harvey probably net you Hamels (may even cost a little less) plus he's a San Diego native if that kind of thing matters to you

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                    • Friar Fanatic
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                      • May 2012
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                      #3295
                      Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by mgcst5
                      You could probably swing Cespedes for him + a minor piece depending on how Ces is doing. If you are more inclined to get a pitcher the package you mentioned for Harvey probably net you Hamels (may even cost a little less) plus he's a San Diego native if that kind of thing matters to you
                      I like that Hamels idea. It's always cool to see a Native come back (like Carlos Quentin). Thanks for the help bud!

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                      • mgcst5
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                        • Jun 2011
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                        #3296
                        Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by Friar Fanatic
                        I like that Hamels idea. It's always cool to see a Native come back (like Carlos Quentin). Thanks for the help bud!

                        Sure thing man

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                        • JBearsL
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                          #3297
                          Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                          Hey guys, I am nearing the All-Star break in 2015 and need to come up with a fair package for David Price. The Rays are way out of it and Price is a FA so they really need to move him. The main problem is there aren't a whole lot of obvious landing spots.

                          The two that make the most sense at this point are the Pirates and the Astros (they are only 2 GB division leader and leading the first WC spot.) Do you think the Astros would trade away prospects so soon if they had a realistic shot at the playoffs? What are some realistic packages the Pirates or Astros would give up for a half-season of David Price? Thanks.

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                          • Friar Fanatic
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                            #3298
                            Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by JBearsL
                            Hey guys, I am nearing the All-Star break in 2015 and need to come up with a fair package for David Price. The Rays are way out of it and Price is a FA so they really need to move him. The main problem is there aren't a whole lot of obvious landing spots.

                            The two that make the most sense at this point are the Pirates and the Astros (they are only 2 GB division leader and leading the first WC spot.) Do you think the Astros would trade away prospects so soon if they had a realistic shot at the playoffs? What are some realistic packages the Pirates or Astros would give up for a half-season of David Price? Thanks.
                            Don't see the Astros doing that. Maybe if this was like the second or third year in a row where they were doing good, then I could see it.

                            Pirates trade Glasnow, Taillon, Hanson, Bell for Price

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                            • JBearsL
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                              #3299
                              Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by Friar Fanatic
                              Don't see the Astros doing that. Maybe if this was like the second or third year in a row where they were doing good, then I could see it.

                              Pirates trade Glasnow, Taillon, Hanson, Bell for Price
                              That's what I was thinking about the Astros. Doesn't seem like they would trade prospects so quickly. I was actually thinking the same exact package from PIT but without Taillon. You think they trade both Glasnow and Taillon for just a rental of Price?

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                              • Friar Fanatic
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                                #3300
                                Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by mgcst5
                                Sure thing man
                                What do you think is a fair deal for Hamels?

                                Hedges + Fried + Liriano + Peterson?

                                Or maybe Hedges + Fried + Peterson for Matt Moore
                                Last edited by Friar Fanatic; 06-10-2014, 01:37 AM.

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