MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

[og236]

MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Scratched the Cubs idea with trading the farm away since I've found one of my older chises with them. Still early (May 19th, playing all the games at all levels). I'm out of the race as I'm currently 13-30. Pen has been a mess thus far starters have pitched well, their win and losses have been atrocious though. I'm going to keep on playing this one, not making any trades till the All Star game or around there, but one that came to mind was this one (Big trade):

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Cubs get SP Julio Urias, SP Taijuan Walker, SS Dee Gordon, OF Joc Pederson, SP Luiz Gohara

Dodgers get SP Jeff Samardzija, SS Starlin Castro, SP Hisashi Iwakuma, OF Stefen Romero, OF Dustin Ackley, C/1B Jesus Montero, RP Pedro Strop, SP Danny Hulten

Mariners get 1B Anthony Rizzo, 3B Corey Seager, SP Zach Lee, CF Matt Kemp (Could switch for Andre Ethier/Carl Crawford and make the trade smaller), SP Chad Billingsley, OF Jacob Scavuzzo, SP Travis Wood

Here's my reasoning (part 1)

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My inability to play well with Starlin (on a cold streak hitting around .270 thus far) will more than likely see me sell. Also not the biggest Rizzo fan, would rather trade him for a young ace and move Olt to 1B when I bring Bryant up. Thus far I started Bryant and Baez in AA, both are killing it. Will bring Bryant up to AAA in a day or two. See how he does there, Baez should be up by early June. Away from the console but I think the Dodgers are in 1st in the division over the Giants by a game or two; and the M's are 4 or so games out of the West and a couple out of the WC.

Further dissecting of the trade

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Way I see it, it's a couple mini trades that make up a big one. Different steps to getting to the big one, so here we go:

Cubs trade SS Starlin Castro, RP Pedro Strop, and SP Jeff Samardzija to the Dodgers for SP Julio Urias, 3B Corey Seager, OF Joc Pederson, SS Dee Gordon and SP Zach Lee (is this fair value? Idk).

Then the Dodgers trade CF Matt Kemp (can be one of the other 2 and make the trade a lot smaller), SP Chad Billingsley and OF Jacob Scavuzzo to the Mariners for SP Hisashi Iwakuma, SP Danny Hultzen, C/1B Jesus Montero, OF Stefen Romero, and OF Dustin Ackley

And finally the Cubs trade 1B Anthony Rizzo, 3B Corey Seager, SP Zach Lee and SP Travis Wood to the M's for SP Taijuan Walker and SP Luiz Gohara

Again not sure if this is fair value to any of these but I'd like to think most of these are close. Can insert CJ Edwards or a young Cubs pitcher if need be.

Scenarios where this would work in my mind:

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1.Dodgers in the playoff race (obviously will imo) and Beckett & Haren continue to struggle in their rotation. How scary would a 1-5 be of: Kershaw, Greinke, Ryu, Samardzija, & Iwakuma? Also adding Starlin to a loaded line up, would move Hanley to 3rd and bring up Guerrero from AAA. SP Danny Hultzen would go to the minors and Strop would help out in their pen.

2.The M's, if they stay in the race do they do this? While they're trading away a starter and a potential ace (Walker is at AAA) they get back a CF and their 1B of the future. Along with Travis Wood & Chad Billingsley would slot into their rotation, Zach Lee who would be fighting for a rotation spot next year, Corey Seager + Scavuzzo for the future. Also Smoak had been struggling last I saw, so Rizzo would fit in nicely. Would give them 2 good bats to go along Cano.

3.Cubs, get back 2 potential Aces for their rotation along Gohara, Joc Pederson would be able to come in and play LF or go down to AAA. Dee Gordon would be a fill in until Baez arrives or he could play 2B and Barney would be moved. Can also be a trading chip for the future.

Just thinking ahead as Samardzija won't be coming back and I'd like to package him with Castro or Rizzo for a bigger haul.

Realistic? Probably not but it helps all teams imo. Is every team getting fair value back? Should the Cubs get more back, are they getting more than enough back? Are the Dodgers giving up more than they're getting back? Are the M's silently stealing the trade? Yes/no, would appreciate some feedback. Not moving pieces till July so I've got time to think of more moves or a way to move Castro/Rizzo + Samardzija. Also obviously going for fairness and not really realism. Although I can see the M's adding bats to help out Robbie, to the point of trading pitching away? Idk. Ha.

That huge trade proposal made my head hurt Lol


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[WaitTilNextYear]

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I'll just suggest that for the 2 or 3 guys who are constantly restarting with a team that has a good farm only to propose 5-6 trades (or a single 20 player deal, lol) why not a fantasy draft? If you put some house rules on your drafting that limit the amount of under-25 age players/prospects you can draft, there's no reason you won't end up with a team that has players you'll like and will hold your interest while avoiding the feeling of guilt that sets in when you have Mike Trout, Manny Machado, Kris Bryant, Javier Baez, Byron Buxton, Dylan Bundy, Noah Snydergaard, Archie Bradley, Taijuan Walker, Yasiel Puig, Nolan Arenado, Trevor Rosenthal, Carlos Martinez, and Addison Russell all on the same team.

[jfinger2013]

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FIRST OFF THIS IS IN MY ROAD TO THE SHOW
Just need help understanding if this is a fair trade and if I should go with the trade or not allow them to make the trade. The Cubs are the best team in 2015 and the Royals suck in my road to the show


Ok so this is the dilemma I currently am faced with my 2015 Cubs are 70-37 at the trade deadline I have 2 different saves I have 2 because I simulated the last 2 weeks after the all star game because they kept on trading SP CJ Edwards for 3B Martin Prado even though we had Kris Bryant starting and looking like a sure fire Rookie Of The Year. So that trade kept pissing me off so I kept restarting and simulating the last 2 weeks of July until they kept CJ Edwards especially since he has A potential. I ended up with 2 great alternate realities one where they trade CJ the other where they keep him. I need help decided which one should I continue to play.

Reality 1

2015 Cubs 70-37

In this reality they trade CJ Edwards who was 23yrs 73ovr with A potential and our 6th best SP playing in double AA with the Smokies, here is the trade

Royals get : C.J. Edwards 23yrs 72ovr A potential, Jake Arrieta 28yrs 77ovr B potential

Cubs get: James Shields 33yrs 90ovr B potential.

after the trade our Cubs rotation is stacked looking like this

Max Scherzer most likely to win CY young award 30yrs 90ovr B potential
James Shields 33yrs 90ovr B potential
Jeff Samardzija 30yrs 86ovr B potential
Travis Wood 28yrs 79ovr C potential
Edwin Jackson 31yrs 78ovr B potential

that looks like a stud rotation and I really love it but the downfall is we got a lot of old pitchers which is why I didn't really wanna lose CJ Edwards and his A potential. we still have 3 other A potential SP but its always better to have 4, the 3 are

Benny Hinch 20yrs 68ovr A potential 6th best SP after trade

Pierce Johnson 23yrs 68ovr A potential 7th best SP post trade

Frederic Pugh 21yrs 64ovr A potential 16th best SP

So we still have 3 stud pitchers in our organization to take Cj Edwards place but he was the best of the 4 and its just gonna suck to see him go especially since our starting position players are so young so we should be good for a long time which is why I wanna keep all my young stud pitchers but I cant beat that trade for another Ace pitcher im confused. the average age of our infield players is 23 ( Rizzo, Finger is my player, Kris Bryant, Castro) are all very young so we will need some good young pitchers. not to mention our starting outfielders Lake, Almora is in triple AAA but should be starting next year, and Soler are also very young.
so even though my team is beasting I would love to keep our young pitchers what should I do.

Reality 2

2015 Cubs 71-37

in this reality the Cubs made no moves at the deadline and we get to keep Arrieta as our 5th SP and CJ Edwards our 6th best SP goes back to Double AA idk why they don't have in AAA but who cares and now we keep our 4 A potential SP so one day they can replace our aging SP's

I just need help on which Reality to pick which one would u go with I am currently leaning torwards reality #1 because just because they have A potential doesn't mean they will ever reach James Shields level idk but I need help
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[WaitTilNextYear]

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Reality 2 if it were me. If your team is already dynamite, no need to rock the boat and you can keep your spects is my thought.

[hampshirestags]

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A few weeks ago I asked for feedback on a trade that would get G. Polanco to the Twins. A couple of good suggestions and a wrist slap later, I did the deal for Mauer/Pinto for Polanco. A few days later my PS4 broke. I'm not telling you if it happened the day he got called up and I'm not saying the trade is the reason my game broke...I'm saying kudos to Sony for getting me back a new console in a reasonable timeframe and that's all I have to say about that.


In a effort to not anger the baseball gods anymore but still yearning to rebuild a franchise in my image, I am going to launch a Phillies yard sale. My trade question is,


Phil - C. Hamels/A. Bastardo/S. Valle
Col - C. Gonzalez


I don't think it would take much to make a good case either way. I would imagine a mess of mid level prospects and maybe a third team to make it happen but am curious what the local brain trust has to say. Perhaps one of the Philly prospect arms (other than Biddle)? The Phillies are in Denver on April 20th. An early season blockbuster?

[Totte]

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A few weeks ago I asked for feedback on a trade that would get G. Polanco to the Twins. A couple of good suggestions and a wrist slap later, I did the deal for Mauer/Pinto for Polanco. A few days later my PS4 broke. I'm not telling you if it happened the day he got called up and I'm not saying the trade is the reason my game broke...I'm saying kudos to Sony for getting me back a new console in a reasonable timeframe and that's all I have to say about that.


In a effort to not anger the baseball gods anymore but still yearning to rebuild a franchise in my image, I am going to launch a Phillies yard sale. My trade question is,


Phil - C. Hamels/A. Bastardo/S. Valle
Col - C. Gonzalez


I don't think it would take much to make a good case either way. I would imagine a mess of mid level prospects and maybe a third team to make it happen but am curious what the local brain trust has to say. Perhaps one of the Philly prospect arms (other than Biddle)? The Phillies are in Denver on April 20th. An early season blockbuster?

Adam Morgan instead of Jesse Biddle to answer that question.

What you're suggesting is something I could see in mid July if it fills a need for both teams but this early in the season...no not really. The Rockies need an ace, I agree with you, but them taking on a larger and longer contract than CarGo doesn't seem right. Sure there's plenty of OF depth in Colorado but still.

If you were to acquire CarGo this early in the season, it'd have to be for prospects and to be honest, the Phillies don't have that many. You'd have to start building around JP Crawford and add Jesse Biddle plus more.

I suppose you want an OF'er back in a deal with Hamels to get some depth behind Brown, Revere and Byrd? Hamels is a SoCal (San Diego) native so I'd try and make something happen with one of those teams.

Hamels to San Diego for a package starting with Will Venable and Casey Kelly plus more.

Hamels to the Angels for CJ Cron (to replace Howard), Yarbrough/Lindsay (to replace Utley) and RJ Alvarez (to replace Papelbon).

Hamels to the Dodgers for Matt Kemp

[Gronk4M13]

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If I'm the Yankees, what would be a good trade to get rid of Alex Rodriguez? I put him on the trading block, seeking a second baseman or third baseman in return, and the Dodgers and Brewers are interested.

[Totte]

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If I'm the Yankees, what would be a good trade to get rid of Alex Rodriguez? I put him on the trading block, seeking a second baseman or third baseman in return, and the Dodgers and Brewers are interested.

To the Dodgers for Juan Uribe.

To the Brewers for Rickie Weeks.

If you're playing with a realism factor, A-Rod isn't worth more than an aging player on a somewhat bad contract.

Or are you looking for some kind of prospect in return?

[AC]

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Really, the only possible landing spot for A-Rod would be the Dodgers

[Gronk4M13]

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To the Dodgers for Juan Uribe.

To the Brewers for Rickie Weeks.

If you're playing with a realism factor, A-Rod isn't worth more than an aging player on a somewhat bad contract.

Or are you looking for some kind of prospect in return?

Really, the only possible landing spot for A-Rod would be the Dodgers

I'm aiming for realism. Would the trade to the Dodgers for Juan Uribe be realistic?

[Totte]

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I'm aiming for realism. Would the trade to the Dodgers for Juan Uribe be realistic?

If you plan on having A-Rod play the season, yes. If you have him "injured"/suspended, then no

[hampshirestags]

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Adam Morgan instead of Jesse Biddle to answer that question.

What you're suggesting is something I could see in mid July if it fills a need for both teams but this early in the season...no not really. The Rockies need an ace, I agree with you, but them taking on a larger and longer contract than CarGo doesn't seem right. Sure there's plenty of OF depth in Colorado but still.

If you were to acquire CarGo this early in the season, it'd have to be for prospects and to be honest, the Phillies don't have that many. You'd have to start building around JP Crawford and add Jesse Biddle plus more.

I suppose you want an OF'er back in a deal with Hamels to get some depth behind Brown, Revere and Byrd? Hamels is a SoCal (San Diego) native so I'd try and make something happen with one of those teams.

Hamels to San Diego for a package starting with Will Venable and Casey Kelly plus more.

Hamels to the Angels for CJ Cron (to replace Howard), Yarbrough/Lindsay (to replace Utley) and RJ Alvarez (to replace Papelbon).

Hamels to the Dodgers for Matt Kemp

Thanks Totte. The timing/location of the trade is more symbolic than strategic. I do like the Angels suggestion, going to put some thought into that. While the Dodgers are logical, Kemp isn't the answer for me. Pap and Ruiz for prospects at the break is probably going to be our dance.

[Totte]

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Thanks Totte. The timing/location of the trade is more symbolic than strategic. I do like the Angels suggestion, going to put some thought into that. While the Dodgers are logical, Kemp isn't the answer for me. Pap and Ruiz for prospects at the break is probably going to be our dance.

Best thing about the Angels is that they're also a really nice fit for Papelbon if you decide to expand the deal even further

[jdiaz891]

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Im playing with the mets (2nd .5 gb) a week before all star break and im intrested in 3 players that are on the block. I am looking to be fair and realistic.

Brett Cecil with a 2.68 era the jays are in 4th 9.5 gb
Andre Ethier .244 avg the dodgers are in 2nd 6 gb
Jp Arencibia .184 avg the rangers are 2nd 2.5 gb

Also at the moment im looking to trade John niese whos 3-4 with a 4.37 era Chris young (who has been a complete bust in game and IRL) with a .217 avg 9 hr 27 rbi also Moises Sierra who i picked up on waviers .269 avg 4 hr and 30 rbi.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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I'm aiming for realism. Would the trade to the Dodgers for Juan Uribe be realistic?

Trading A-Rod at all is not realistic. There is no team in baseball that will take on his baggage and declining, 1-year removed from baseball skill set.