MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

[Totte]

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Alright wanna be GMs, how do I go about fixing the Rockies?

I really like Tulo, Cargo, and Nolan Arenado, but everyone else (maybe not Cuddyer) is definitely expendable).

I really just feel like I need to improve my rotation and bullpen as much as possible. Im sitting at 26-41 with the team (switched to them around mid-June as I wanted to rebuild a really struggling team).

Im still playing a bunch of their games to see what kind of guys I like. About to try out Chacin and see if hes good.

Im happy that the OSFM seems to have bumped some of the potentials for pitchers in the system (Gray is an A but so is Eddie Butler, both are dominating at Double A right now).

Do you want to build around pitching or hitting?

[Totte]

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Not to detract from the back and forth you guys have going, but to update my White Sox question, the only guys I would be unwilling to move from the major league roster would be Sale, Quintana, and Abreu which probably represent the three biggest pieces, but again would look to combine any others with De Aza and Beckham to get them off my team. Some guys I would like ideally would be Peralta (AZ) or Lake (Cubs) in terms of outfielders and then again any back of the rotation guys because having Carroll and Noesi is going to hurt. Thoughts?

Neither De Aza or Beckham are fits for ARZ or CHC but they could easily net you some rotation depth.

De Aza to Seattle for Maurer/Beavan
De Aza to Atlanta for David Hale
Beckham to Dodgers for Maholm+J.Dominguez
Beckham to Mets for Gee (Beckham moves back to college SS position)

[sundevil44]

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Thanks. I'll have to look at it a little later and see what I can do. It would be easier to part with De Aza because I have other outfielders I can slot in with similar ability, whereas I'm facing a drop off at second without Beckham even though he is nothing special. In terms of both AZ and the Cubs, what would it take for me to pry Peralta or Lake from them in your opinion?

[royals19]

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Alright wanna be GMs, how do I go about fixing the Rockies?

I really like Tulo, Cargo, and Nolan Arenado, but everyone else (maybe not Cuddyer) is definitely expendable).

I really just feel like I need to improve my rotation and bullpen as much as possible. Im sitting at 26-41 with the team (switched to them around mid-June as I wanted to rebuild a really struggling team).

Im still playing a bunch of their games to see what kind of guys I like. About to try out Chacin and see if hes good.

Im happy that the OSFM seems to have bumped some of the potentials for pitchers in the system (Gray is an A but so is Eddie Butler, both are dominating at Double A right now).

If I was rebuilding the Rockies, I'd probably focus most of the early rebuilding efforts on acquiring offense. Based off of what I've seen and read, offense is becoming the next undervalued thing in the market. If it was me, I would probably go out and look for some Major League ready bats and draft some fast moving, impact offensive players so that way I don't waste CarGo and Tulo's prime years. The way the market is shaping up, if you go out and load up on offense, you could be sitting on a potential gold mine.

That being said, I would hang on to Gray and Butler no matter what because Colorado needs upside arms as well. When you reestablish an offensive core and you think you're ready to compete, you can trade some of the impact bats you've acquired either through trades or the draft for the impact arms that'll set your team over the top.

With the Rockies, you don't really have time to tear it all down and rebuild it again because you'll be looking at possibly a 5 year project and by then Tulo and Cargo will be on the wrong side of 30.

Of course all this hinges on keeping Tulo and CarGo and building around them.

[Totte]

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Thanks. I'll have to look at it a little later and see what I can do. It would be easier to part with De Aza because I have other outfielders I can slot in with similar ability, whereas I'm facing a drop off at second without Beckham even though he is nothing special. In terms of both AZ and the Cubs, what would it take for me to pry Peralta or Lake from them in your opinion?

Not much to be honest but I just feel that they don't need De Aza or Beckham. Erik Johnson would get you Junior Lake. If Peralta is in AAA, he's an easy target. Send them someone like Snodgrass from your AA/AAA rotation. A fairly young SP with some upside

[WaitTilNextYear]

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No I don't think Russell has more potential than Harper but in The Show he does. He has a 99 potential.
I also never said that that trade would work, but with their "all-in" season going you just never know. I agree though, Gray isn't getting dealt for just Altuve or for anything the Astros have.
I wouldn't want the Astros to trade Altuve anyway.

The 99 POT depends on the roster that you're using. I know when I was editing POT values for a roster project, I saw that 99 and immediately bumped it down. lol at whoever put the 99 in originally. Russell should be an A, no doubt, but a more reasonable mid-A seems more appropriate. Conversely, Harper should (and will) have the 99 POT.

Alright wanna be GMs, how do I go about fixing the Rockies?

I really like Tulo, Cargo, and Nolan Arenado, but everyone else (maybe not Cuddyer) is definitely expendable).

I really just feel like I need to improve my rotation and bullpen as much as possible. Im sitting at 26-41 with the team (switched to them around mid-June as I wanted to rebuild a really struggling team).

Im still playing a bunch of their games to see what kind of guys I like. About to try out Chacin and see if hes good.

Im happy that the OSFM seems to have bumped some of the potentials for pitchers in the system (Gray is an A but so is Eddie Butler, both are dominating at Double A right now).

IMO, neither Gray nor Butler should be A POT. Especially not Butler. Again, in a roster project, they have more reasonable POT values. Gray is a nice talent and having a great season, but let's not get carried away here.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Alright wanna be GMs, how do I go about fixing the Rockies?

I really like Tulo, Cargo, and Nolan Arenado, but everyone else (maybe not Cuddyer) is definitely expendable).

I really just feel like I need to improve my rotation and bullpen as much as possible. Im sitting at 26-41 with the team (switched to them around mid-June as I wanted to rebuild a really struggling team).

Im still playing a bunch of their games to see what kind of guys I like. About to try out Chacin and see if hes good.

Im happy that the OSFM seems to have bumped some of the potentials for pitchers in the system (Gray is an A but so is Eddie Butler, both are dominating at Double A right now).

I would do it a bit differently than Royals19 would.

I would load up on pitchers with high HR/9 and H/9 attributes that throw sinking fastballs. Basically, the Rockies need better pitchers and more of them. And the more said pitchers can miss bats, the stronger the Rockies' home park advantage would be.

I also feel that the Rockies have a good amount of offense with Tulo, Cargo, and a host of young OFs who are breaking out a little bit. Former Twinkies Morneau and Cuddyer give you some nice lineup depth as well.

[Wavebird99]

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I mean I'm just glad I have high potential guys who may make my transition into a winning team a bit easier. They're the only A's in the entire system I'm pretty sure.

Thanks for the input btw Royals19, that sounds like a solid plan. I'm gonna try and play a few more games to get a really good idea of who I want to keep around, and Ill probably return with a list of guys who I would trade (w/contract details and what not) and see what you guys think.

Just played a game against the Giants and won 10-5, so here's hoping we can get a little closer to .500 so I can justify a "reloading" rather than a "trade Cargo and Tulo" 65 win season tear down.


And yeah the offense isnt necessarily an issue right now, but I'm still open to switching it up if it means I'd have a better team.

[nl15]

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Hate having to bump my post but I am looking for approval on these deals and more ideas.

Nearing the deadline and my moves so far are:
Kubel to Reds
Alexi Ramirez to A's
Rios/Feliz to KC
Colon to Detroit
Willingham to Braves

These are the other trades I am considering

Padres are contending and could use a lefty arm:

Tex: SP Burch Smith (Mid C)
SD: Cotts 2.45 ERA

Yanks need a 3rd basemen and Giants are struggling:

NY: Sandoval (.282, 21 HR, 48 RBI)
SF: Nova, CF Slade Heathcott (High C), Solarte

The Central is up for the taking and the Indians are 5.5 back and really need a DH. Howard is actually having a good year.

CLE: Howard (.281, 22 HR, 57 RBI)
PHI: SP Cloyd (B), SP Anderson (B)

Sox are tied for first and Peavy and Lackey are on the DL:

Boston: Ruiz, Hamels
Philly: Betts, Barnes, Cecchini, Swihart

Toronto is tied for first and needs a starter:
Tor: Gallardo (8-8, 5.06 ERA)
MIL: Stilson, Lopes

Also the Dodgers and Seattle are both contending and I was thinking about doing a Kemp trade between the 2. Kemp is only hitting .228. The Dodgers only needs are 2nd and 3rd. Idk what to do. Maybe a 3 team trade?

I would like to make the Shark to Oakland trade but Hammel couldn't be involved as he has no value in my game. Would Shark for Straily and Russell be ok?

[Kyle K.]

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Hello Everyone, I am currently 57 games into the season as the Kansas City Royals and I am sitting at 36-21. And I am looking to add a piece or two into the fold right now that could potentially put the MLB team over the hump for the rest of the season. I most recently went 1-7 in a 8 game stretch where my offense was held to under 2 runs in most games. We have since gone 6-1 but the offense remains a concern and I am not sure how the rotation will hold up. For some gameplay backing I am for the most part playing every 3rd start for James Shields, Jason Vargas and Tim Lincecum (acquired in a trade where I sent 3 prospects to the Giants including Danny Duffy who since joining the Giants has done 1-0, 13 IP and a 2.77 ERA.

My pitching has been solid as you could see with the following numbers;

James Shields 9-0 1.28 ERA 79 K 91.2 IP - He has been playing out of his mind regardless of me pitching or the games being simmed, he has only 3 no decisions.

Jason Vargas 5-1 1.47 ERA 46 K 73.1 IP - Again regardless of me pitching or it being simmed he has been pretty much lights out but has had 5 no decisions.

What I am in search of right now is a power bat that can come in and put a charge into the team, the issue for this right now I am very limited as to where I can put such a bat in my lineup. We are dead last in homeruns and middle of the pack in runs batted in. As of right now the only real options where I can acquire such a bat would be in the outfield. As Cain has been struggling in center field so I would be able to move Gordon and Aoki around. I would also like to possibly acquire a middle infielder, Infante has been struggling both in the field and at the plate though this is less of a concern for the team moving forward.

As of right now the teams struggling the most and most likely have no chance at making the playoffs are Miami, Pittsburgh (20-36 12.5 Back in WC and 13.5 back in the Central), Cubs, Arizona, Colorado, Cleveland, Anaheim, White Sox. But I would not rule out the possibility of trading with another contender in a mutually beneficial trade and possibly adding in a kicker prospect to sweeten the deal.

Right now the players on the Kansas City roster that I would deem untouchable are Alex Gordon, Billy Butler, Eric Hosmer, James Shield, Jason Vargas and Tim Lincecum since he was just acquired. Otherwise all prospects could be dealt in the proper deal to get the right bat into the lineup.

Thanks everyone for any and all help with potential trades!

[kmoser]

MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Nearing the deadline and my moves so far are:
Kubel to Reds
Alexi Ramirez to A's
Rios/Feliz to KC
Colon to Detroit
Willingham to Braves

These are the other trades I am considering

Padres are contending and could use a lefty arm:

Tex: SP Burch Smith (Mid C)
SD: Cotts 2.45 ERA

Yanks need a 3rd basemen and Giants are struggling:

NY: Sandoval (.282, 21 HR, 48 RBI)
SF: Nova, CF Slade Heathcott (High C), Solarte

The Central is up for the taking and the Indians are 5.5 back and really need a DH. Howard is actually having a good year.

CLE: Howard (.281, 22 HR, 57 RBI)
PHI: SP Cloyd (B), SP Anderson (B)

Sox are tied for first and Peavy and Lackey are on the DL:

Boston: Ruiz, Hamels
Philly: Betts, Barnes, Cecchini, Swihart

Toronto is tied for first and needs a starter:
Tor: Gallardo (8-8, 5.06 ERA)
MIL: Stilson, Lopes

Also the Dodgers and Seattle are both contending and I was thinking about doing a Kemp trade between the 2. Kemp is only hitting .228. The Dodgers only needs are 2nd and 3rd. Idk what to do. Maybe a 3 team trade?

I would like to make the Shark to Oakland trade but Hammel couldn't be involved as he has no value in my game. Would Shark for Straily and Russell be ok?

Texas trade seems alright.
The giants would want more value back for Panda.
Too much for Howard even if he is playing good, a low B, high C could do it,.
Boston most likely wouldn't do that deal, they value all those guys highly even for Hamels, maybe look for a SP that won't cost as much but is still pretty good.
I would say just do the Shark trade as you said, just try and throw in Hammel anyway, also the Cubs get McKinney (not sure if that's his name but it's similar to that lol) he is a CF prospect.

[MOJOMORRO]

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hey guys, figured I would join this thread after a frenzy of trades I made in late June and early July.

So basically for an overview, I am the Pittsburg Pirates and I was about 3 games below 500 but only 5.5 back to the Reds when I began to trade my guys. So I needed to acquire a shortstop because Mercer wasn't cutting it as well as a backup catcher as Russell Martin had .264/.456/.341 splits along with 11 HR's.

So here are the trades I made along with a bit of an explanation as to why I did it:

Aquire: Dee Gordon (2B, SS) and Joc Pederson (OF) (Mid-C) Pot. from Dodgers
Trade: Frieri (RP), Vance Worley (SP), and Edison Volquez (SP)

This was initially a tough trade to make as Frieri had an ERA under 2.00 but the Dodgers took the so-so Worley and Volquez as Dan Haren and Zach Grienke were both hurt. Gordon could go play shortstop and give us a true lead off man as well as a lefty bat.

Aquire: J.P Arencebia (1B, C), D. Holland (SP), and L. Sardinas (SS) (Mid-B pot.) from Texas
Trade: Nick Kingam (SP) (Mid-A pot.) and Tony Sanchez (C)

After trading two MLB starters, I needed to get one back along with my promotion of Brandon Cumpton, I decided to trade a high level prospect to get Holland and Arencibia, both who were on the trading block. I was also able to get a decent prospect and dump Sanchez while he was on a hot streak. Arencibia was great because he could play both 1st and catcher.

Aquire: Hechavarria (SS), J. Valdespin (UTL), and M. Dunn (RP) from Miami
Trade: J. Mercer (SS), G. Sanchez (1B), J. Rodriguez (SP) (Low-B pot.)

The Marlins were 2 games up in the wild card race at the time, but had lost Garrett Jones to a shoulder injury for multiple months and Hechavarria was batting just over .200. Mercer was a clear upgrade over Hechavarria as he was batting around .260 with three times as many homers (9). They also boosted the farm system slightly with the aquisition of the 22 year old Rodriguez. Valdespin was in the minors so grabbing him as a utility backup was no problem.

Aquire: Carson Smith (CP with low-B pot.), Y. Medina (RP), and J. Smoak (1B) from Seattle
Trade: M. Melancon (CP), V. Mazzaro (RP), and J. Valdespin (UTL)

At this point I wanted to get a better reliver and a good backup player, so this was a no-brained for me, I got Smith, who was tearing up the minors, and Smoak, a switch hitter who can backup for Ike Davis at first when Arencibia is catching, and Medina, a 25 year old pitcher who was struggling slightly. Valdespin was trades when I realized I didn't really need him anymore if I acquired Smoak because I already had Hechavarria and Josh Harrison, and Mazzaro was traded just to dump his 770k contract. Melancon was a good deal for the Mariners as Rodney had a 4.06 ERA and was 0-7.

Aquire: Ubaldo Jimenez (SP) and Zach Britton (CP) from Baltimore
Trade: Carson Smith (CP) and (RP) Tony Watson

After two starts, Cumpton took a line drive to the head and was out for 6 months. I couldn't call out Taillion like I wanted to because he was on the 15 day DL with a dislocated shoulder. So I picked up the surprisingly good Jimenez who was 9-4 with a 3.62 ERA. The Orioles were out of it so I gave them the young Smith who was just aquired a week before as well a a decent reliever in Watson. This trade was mostly accepted because I was able to just eat up the +10 million dollar deal Jimenez was owed over 4 years which the Orioles wanted to get rid of as Jimenez was on the trading block.

Since the trades we have gone 12-6 and are now tied for first place with the Reds with a 49-43 record as we play a three game series against them before the All-Star Break.

I give myself an A- on my trades because I probably couldve gotten more for Melancon.

How do you guys think I did and what other trades do you guys suggest I do, as Russell Martin and Ike Davis are still on the trade block, but Davis has 17 HR's (most on the team) and likely won't move.

[CameRoN0407]

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Padres are contending and could use a lefty arm:

Tex: SP Burch Smith (Mid C)
SD: Cotts 2.45 ERA

If Texas is doing bad, then make it a High C.

Yanks need a 3rd basemen and Giants are struggling:

NY: Sandoval (.282, 21 HR, 48 RBI)
SF: Nova, CF Slade Heathcott (High C), Solarte

Nowhere near enough for Panda

The Central is up for the taking and the Indians are 5.5 back and really need a DH. Howard is actually having a good year.

CLE: Howard (.281, 22 HR, 57 RBI)
PHI: SP Cloyd (B), SP Anderson (B)

Nobody wants Howard. Especially for two Bs

Sox are tied for first and Peavy and Lackey are on the DL:

Boston: Ruiz, Hamels
Philly: Betts, Barnes, Cecchini, Swihart

Sox don't need Ruiz. We wouldn't give up Swihart or Betts in a Hamels deal. We have enough prospects around the board to keep them.

Toronto is tied for first and needs a starter:
Tor: Gallardo (8-8, 5.06 ERA)
MIL: Stilson, Lopes

I'll let AC answer this one.

Also the Dodgers and Seattle are both contending and I was thinking about doing a Kemp trade between the 2. Kemp is only hitting .228. The Dodgers only needs are 2nd and 3rd. Idk what to do. Maybe a 3 team trade?

I think they never had an intention to trade Kemp, even with a .228 average. What's his OBP, and Slugging?

I would like to make the Shark to Oakland trade but Hammel couldn't be involved as he has no value in my game. Would Shark for Straily and Russell be ok?

Is Straily putting up a real-life Hammel-esque season (before the A's-Cubs swap?)

Responses in bold.

Says me and the spreadsheet. Russell has a potential of 99. I would not give that up for Samardzjia.
He is talking about the A's and Billy Beane has done some crazy things. That's why I said that. You never know what could happen.

Should not be higher than 95 IMO.

Texas trade seems alright.
The giants would want more value back for Panda.
Too much for Howard even if he is playing good, a low B, high C could do it,.
Boston most likely wouldn't do that deal, they value all those guys highly even for Hamels, maybe look for a SP that won't cost as much but is still pretty good.
I would say just do the Shark trade as you said, just try and throw in Hammel anyway, also the Cubs get McKinney (not sure if that's his name but it's similar to that lol) he is a CF prospect.

We would trade for Hamels, just not Ruiz, or give up Betts AND Swihart.

[KBLover]

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Should not be higher than 95 IMO.

Just a curious and probably too far off-topic question, but, would having one player a 95 POT and one a 99 POT make much difference in how they turn out, assuming both reach their ceilings?

Either way, sounds like a superstar player?

[CameRoN0407]

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Just a curious and probably too far off-topic question, but, would having one player a 95 POT and one a 99 POT make much difference in how they turn out, assuming both reach their ceilings?

Either way, sounds like a superstar player?

Yes. 99 POTs should be reserved for the Trout, Harper, and Miggys of the game. I don't think any prospect is worth a 99 POT right now. Kris Bryant gets consideration.