MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

[Totte]

Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Still very, very early in my Astros Franchise, but it's never too early to think about the future, and possible moves:

Good to plan ahead but harder to give a correct trade value when we don't have all the numbers available. Take it with a grain of salt

Deal 1:
A trade centered around Altuve to the Cardinals for Wong+. I really like Lance Lynn, Stephen Piscotty, Carlos Martinez, and quite a few others as well.

Obviously, I do not expect all of them, but any idea on Altuve's worth here? He's putting up super good #'s very similar to real life, and I am not even sure I would deal him unless I got a nice package - especially considering his contract.

With those crazy good stats for Altuve, he'd could probably net you Wong and Piscotty (or maybe Wong, Grichuk/Ramsey and Lynn). C-Mart is probably only being dealt for a big fish like Stanton, Price etc. He'd simply replace Lynn in the rotation if they were to deal him. Either way, this looks like a move for the winter and not something the Cards would make in the middle of a pennant race.

Deal 2:
Josh Collmenter + Didi G from the Diamondbacks. More of a minor trade compared to the other two. I would be willing to deal prospects/players here. I believe spreadsheet had 2 C's and 1 B.

I would consider possibly giving up Delino DeShields Jr, Domingo Santana, or Lance McCullers Jr. as the main piece.

If you're giving up prospects, we'd assume that the D'backs are in sell mode? Collmenter and Didi G are nice depth guys for them to have around if it's a tight race in the NL West.

Santana for Gregorius is pretty even on paper (spreadsheet). Collmenter could probably be had for a a Nick Tropeano, Andrew Thurman or Luis Cruz.

Deal 3:
A trade centered around Sonny Gray for Altuve. This one is a stretch, but is by far the most intriguing, and one I would especially enjoy hearing some thoughts on.

Even during a bad season, I would think Beane would hold onto his young ace in Sonny Gray. There's an obvious need for a long term solution at 2B in Oakland so I like what you're thinking. Are you insisting on MLB ready pitching in return? If you opt for a bit less than high end quality (Gray) in return, you could widen your roster a bit by getting something along the lines of Straily, Milone + OF prospect Shipman/Boyd and Miles Head.

Looking at how Lester was dealt for Cespedes pretty much straight up, it could work with a Gray for Altuve deal straighth up. That is of course if the A's have rotation depth that's not injured ready to step in (don't know if you play with IRL injuries so that Parker and Griffin are out for the year).

[AC]

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Gray for Altuve is neither fair nor realistic

Also, Milone got traded but idk if OP is using updated rosters

[sundevil44]

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I just restarted a franchise with the White Sox. I would like to move De Aza and Beckham, and frankly I'm not too worried who I get back for them because I can't stand either, but if I combine either with guys like Paulino, Tommy Hanson, or Erik Johnson what are some decent deals I could get back involving either younger outfielders with potential or some back of the rotation starters?

[kmoser]

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Gray for Altuve is neither fair nor realistic

Also, Milone got traded but idk if OP is using updated rosters

Neither was Shark+Hammel for Addison Russell+ lol.
They may take Cosart+Altuve but Gray is supposed to be very good

[AC]

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Neither was Shark+Hammel for Addison Russell+ lol.
They may take Cosart+Altuve but Gray is supposed to be very good

Says who and how does that have any remote bearing on the situation at hand?

Gray is not getting traded for Altuve

[Coper3000]

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Excellent, I appreciate all the input. I really would like to at least compete during the 2015 season with the Astros, and have no problem in dealing away some prospects/players (except a few obvious prospects) for good, young, and controllable rotation arm behind Keuchel. I really want to get out of the "stockpiling prospects" transition.

Tony Kemp is also playing fantastic in AAA at 2B, and his Spring would decide if I deal Altuve or not as well (or an addition of Wong).

So, should I scrape a trade centered around Gray for Altuve - with other pieces involved? This would take place in the 2015 offseason, so the A's will have some of their starters back (Griffin, Parker) but I agree that trading Sonny would be very hard for them.

How about the Wong + Lance Lynn trade for Altuve? I really like Lynn, and he is under control for 3 more years (and as mentioned Martinez could jump right in for the Cards). Wong is a downgrade from Altuve, but I've always like him as a prospect - now player. Is this value fair, or should/could more pieces be added?

The Collmenter + Didi trade is more of a fallback plan if these other two don't work. I would also have no problem in giving up Santana + a pitcher for these two.

Taijuan Walker is probably off limits too, right? I'm not even sure I have enough to get him, much less the Mariners give him up.

I'd also be willing to dangle George Springer in a trade for a stud arm, but I don't know if I could go through with it, haha.

Thanks guys!

[sundevil44]

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Excellent, I appreciate all the input. I really would like to at least compete during the 2015 season with the Astros, and have no problem in dealing away some prospects/players (except a few obvious prospects) for good, young, and controllable rotation arm behind Keuchel. I really want to get out of the "stockpiling prospects" transition.

Tony Kemp is also playing fantastic in AAA at 2B, and his Spring would decide if I deal Altuve or not as well (or an addition of Wong).

So, should I scrape a trade centered around Gray for Altuve - with other pieces involved? This would take place in the 2015 offseason, so the A's will have some of their starters back (Griffin, Parker) but I agree that trading Sonny would be very hard for them.

How about the Wong + Lance Lynn trade for Altuve? I really like Lynn, and he is under control for 3 more years (and as mentioned Martinez could jump right in for the Cards). Wong is a downgrade from Altuve, but I've always like him as a prospect - now player. Is this value fair, or should/could more pieces be added?

The Collmenter + Didi trade is more of a fallback plan if these other two don't work. I would also have no problem in giving up Santana + a pitcher for these two.

Taijuan Walker is probably off limits too, right? I'm not even sure I have enough to get him, much less the Mariners give him up.

I'd also be willing to dangle George Springer in a trade for a stud arm, but I don't know if I could go through with it, haha.

Thanks guys!

If you are thinking of getting rid of both Springer and Altuve, where is the offense coming from? Just a thought, as I'm not that familiar with the Astros farm system, but I would think those two represent a good chunk of their primary contributors moving forward.

[Coper3000]

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If you are thinking of getting rid of both Springer and Altuve, where is the offense coming from? Just a thought, as I'm not that familiar with the Astros farm system, but I would think those two represent a good chunk of their primary contributors moving forward.

Not both, one or the other. But I agree, I would probably never trade Springer unless the return was astronomical. They're both playing really well in my Chise' now, but the pitching (outside of Keuchel and Feldman) is really, really bad, and I am heading for another last place in the division.

[sundevil44]

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Oh okay I misunderstood. Personally I would hold on to Springer no matter what like you said, especially assuming his numbers are decent and his attributes will continue to rise.

[kmoser]

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Says who and how does that have any remote bearing on the situation at hand?

Gray is not getting traded for Altuve

Says me and the spreadsheet. Russell has a potential of 99. I would not give that up for Samardzjia.
He is talking about the A's and Billy Beane has done some crazy things. That's why I said that. You never know what could happen.

[kmoser]

Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Excellent, I appreciate all the input. I really would like to at least compete during the 2015 season with the Astros, and have no problem in dealing away some prospects/players (except a few obvious prospects) for good, young, and controllable rotation arm behind Keuchel. I really want to get out of the "stockpiling prospects" transition.

Tony Kemp is also playing fantastic in AAA at 2B, and his Spring would decide if I deal Altuve or not as well (or an addition of Wong).

So, should I scrape a trade centered around Gray for Altuve - with other pieces involved? This would take place in the 2015 offseason, so the A's will have some of their starters back (Griffin, Parker) but I agree that trading Sonny would be very hard for them.

How about the Wong + Lance Lynn trade for Altuve? I really like Lynn, and he is under control for 3 more years (and as mentioned Martinez could jump right in for the Cards). Wong is a downgrade from Altuve, but I've always like him as a prospect - now player. Is this value fair, or should/could more pieces be added?

The Collmenter + Didi trade is more of a fallback plan if these other two don't work. I would also have no problem in giving up Santana + a pitcher for these two.

Taijuan Walker is probably off limits too, right? I'm not even sure I have enough to get him, much less the Mariners give him up.

I'd also be willing to dangle George Springer in a trade for a stud arm, but I don't know if I could go through with it, haha.

Thanks guys!

The Cardinals trade seems decent, but is unrealistic if you care about that kind of thing lol.
You can pull off the D-Backs trade easily IMO.
Also, yes, Taijuan Walker is off limits. I could only see them trading him in a deal for Giancarlo Stanton.

[AC]

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How about the Wong + Lance Lynn trade for Altuve? I really like Lynn, and he is under control for 3 more years (and as mentioned Martinez could jump right in for the Cards). Wong is a downgrade from Altuve, but I've always like him as a prospect - now player. Is this value fair, or should/could more pieces be added?

I actually really like this for both sides. Piscotty would work, alternatively.

Says me and the spreadsheet. Russell has a potential of 99. I would not give that up for Samardzjia.
He is talking about the A's and Billy Beane has done some crazy things. That's why I said that. You never know what could happen.

Lmao you think Addison Russell should really have higher potential than Bryce Harper (98)? Gray is never moving for Altuve. that would be the least Beane thing to do possible. You don't move a cost controlled 3.5 win player for a more expensive 3.5 win player.

[kmoser]

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I actually really like this for both sides. Piscotty would work, alternatively.







Lmao you think Addison Russell should really have higher potential than Bryce Harper (98)? Gray is never moving for Altuve. that would be the least Beane thing to do possible. You don't move a cost controlled 3.5 win player for a more expensive 3.5 win player.

No I don't think Russell has more potential than Harper but in The Show he does. He has a 99 potential.
I also never said that that trade would work, but with their "all-in" season going you just never know. I agree though, Gray isn't getting dealt for just Altuve or for anything the Astros have.
I wouldn't want the Astros to trade Altuve anyway.

[sundevil44]

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Not to detract from the back and forth you guys have going, but to update my White Sox question, the only guys I would be unwilling to move from the major league roster would be Sale, Quintana, and Abreu which probably represent the three biggest pieces, but again would look to combine any others with De Aza and Beckham to get them off my team. Some guys I would like ideally would be Peralta (AZ) or Lake (Cubs) in terms of outfielders and then again any back of the rotation guys because having Carroll and Noesi is going to hurt. Thoughts?

[Wavebird99]

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Alright wanna be GMs, how do I go about fixing the Rockies?

I really like Tulo, Cargo, and Nolan Arenado, but everyone else (maybe not Cuddyer) is definitely expendable).

I really just feel like I need to improve my rotation and bullpen as much as possible. Im sitting at 26-41 with the team (switched to them around mid-June as I wanted to rebuild a really struggling team).

Im still playing a bunch of their games to see what kind of guys I like. About to try out Chacin and see if hes good.

Im happy that the OSFM seems to have bumped some of the potentials for pitchers in the system (Gray is an A but so is Eddie Butler, both are dominating at Double A right now).