MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

[AC]

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What do you guys think the value is on a 4 win Jose Reyes? $12.7M surplus value.

[hampshirestags]

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What do you guys think the value is on a 4 win Jose Reyes? $12.7M surplus value.

If his contract ended with the '14 season, we would be talking about the premier FA position player. Since it doesn't, and now the balloon payments are due, the odds we will see any surplus value from him in the future are very low. Nobody wants to buy the used Ferrari for retail. We've said it before, he's movable, I just don't see how TOR moves him and doesn't lose out.

However, take your newly found $12mm and offset the rest of his deal, take on some other bad contract and throw in R. Alomar's suite at the Centre and we might have something. Everything I see tells me the deal starts going the other way in '15.

And I would consider myself a J.Reyes fan...just not a TOR fan!

[AC]

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For the record, in game he's getting paid similar amounts for the rest of his contract that along with inflation will keep the contract pretty even.

And you didn't really answer the question at all, lol.

[ESexton18]

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Would the Orioles give up one of Bundy, Harvey or Gausman in a Cole Hamels deal?

It's late June, Gausman is in the MLB rotation with a 4.52 ERA, I'm not sure they'd move him since he's already in the MLB.

Bundy has a 2.09 ERA in AA, Harvey has a 4.36 ERA in AAA. The Orioles are 1.0 game back in the division at the moment but no one in the rotation has an ERA under 4. Hamels has a 2.63 ERA and is having his usual stellar season.

I'm actually only a game back in the division even though I have no hitting haha not sure I can keep that up. I'll probably wait a little to make a move to see where things stand but I'm just throwing this out there.

[hampshirestags]

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For the record, in game he's getting paid similar amounts for the rest of his contract that along with inflation will keep the contract pretty even.

And you didn't really answer the question at all, lol.

He is a career 3 WAR, a 4 year (values rounded) at this point doesn't move the needle given current age and contract value (in-game contract value is 'made up' and not relevant imo, perhaps someone else will have a wider view on the topic).

Simple answer, his value is static.

[hampshirestags]

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Would the Orioles give up one of Bundy, Harvey or Gausman in a Cole Hamels deal?

It's late June, Gausman is in the MLB rotation with a 4.52 ERA, I'm not sure they'd move him since he's already in the MLB.

Bundy has a 2.09 ERA in AA, Harvey has a 4.36 ERA in AAA. The Orioles are 1.0 game back in the division at the moment but no one in the rotation has an ERA under 4. Hamels has a 2.63 ERA and is having his usual stellar season.

I'm actually only a game back in the division even though I have no hitting haha not sure I can keep that up. I'll probably wait a little to make a move to see where things stand but I'm just throwing this out there.

Yes. D.Bundy would be most likely to be moved.

[torpidbeaver]

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Can I ask how you guys handle trades in your leagues (assuming you use 30-team control)? I'm looking around at some of my opponents and wondering if I should make a trade or two for them, but I sorta promised myself I wouldn't get that granular.

For instance, the Braves are pulling into the All-Star Break 2 games back of the Nationals with some serious injuries. There's the starting pitching pre-season injuries, and then they lost Jason Heyward to a torn Hamstring. They've got a semi-platoon of Derrick Mitchel and Cedric Hunter (60/64 OVR, D POT).

There are plenty of other teams in contention with serious holes. Do you sit back and hope the computer deals with it? Or do you step in?

More disturbingly, the computer doesn't seem to be adjusting lineups to deal with the new, crappy replacements. So Tulo's 60s-level replacement call-up is still batting 3rd in the lineup.

[BC392]

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Ok, Just looking for suggestions with a few questions..

Question 1- OBVIOUSLY trading for cubs slugger Baez might be a little unrealistic. But in real life circumstance...would the cubs do a XB/Pitching prospect for him? XB has struggled but he was a higher ranked prospect coming into the year.

Also worthy of noting, Theo is the one who signed XB while he isn't the one who draft baez. Not to say he prefers XB but that's prob worthy of noting anyways.

Question 2..Whats a realistic trade for Stanton? 2 Of Mookie/Owens/Swihart? More? less?

Question 3- What could the sox expect in a trade for cespedes/Nap/Craig etc in terms of prospects? 1 A potential player? 2?


Thanks in advance!

[AC]

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The Cubs should 8000% do that, big overpay

[torpidbeaver]

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Boston (48-38, 0 GB) Offers:
SP Henry Owens (21 Years, 73 OVR, A POT, AAA Stat Line: 0-2, 5.06, 10k/6bb)
SP Trey Ball (19 Years, 59 OVR, A POT, Single-A Stat Line: 4-6, 6.10, 67k/36bb)

Colorado (39-49, 8 GB) Offers:
RF Michael Cuddyer (34 Years, 85 OVR, B POT, $7.4 M/1 Year, MLB Stat Line: .280/.360/.419)

Boston is doing well, despite losing Papi to a dislocated ankle and Bogaerts to a fractured arm, while Victorino is gone with a shattered wrist for at least another 2 months. They've currently got 3B/Util Ryan Roberts (33 Years, 74 OVR, C POT, MLB Stat Line: .267/.346/.345) playing RF, where I guess he's doing a serviceable job.

FWIW, Boston's RFs are cursed. Bryce Brentz, Daniel Nava, and Keury De La Cruz are all on the DL (on top of the aforementioned Victorino).

Colorado's out of the game, basically, after they lost Tulo and his backup for a long stretch.

As far as CPU-initiated trades go, this one interests me.

[BC392]

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Boston (48-38, 0 GB) Offers:
SP Henry Owens (21 Years, 73 OVR, A POT, AAA Stat Line: 0-2, 5.06, 10k/6bb)
SP Trey Ball (19 Years, 59 OVR, A POT, Single-A Stat Line: 4-6, 6.10, 67k/36bb)

Colorado (39-49, 8 GB) Offers:
RF Michael Cuddyer (34 Years, 85 OVR, B POT, $7.4 M/1 Year, MLB Stat Line: .280/.360/.419)

Boston is doing well, despite losing Papi to a dislocated ankle and Bogaerts to a fractured arm, while Victorino is gone with a shattered wrist for at least another 2 months. They've currently got 3B/Util Ryan Roberts (33 Years, 74 OVR, C POT, MLB Stat Line: .267/.346/.345) playing RF, where I guess he's doing a serviceable job.

FWIW, Boston's RFs are cursed. Bryce Brentz, Daniel Nava, and Keury De La Cruz are all on the DL (on top of the aforementioned Victorino).

Colorado's out of the game, basically, after they lost Tulo and his backup for a long stretch.

As far as CPU-initiated trades go, this one interests me.

I think right now the only type of players the sox would trade owens for is a young star. Part of a Stanton/Heyward deal.


Owens is a top 25 or so prospect I believe.


That would be a steal for colo, and than some.

[AC]

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I sense the thread is about to see it's 3rd or 20th discussion about whether the "Henry Owens will be dealt for nothing short of Stanton" opinion is valid.

it's soooooooooooooooo not imo

[WaitTilNextYear]

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What do you guys think the value is on a 4 win Jose Reyes? $12.7M surplus value.

I think you should cut off debate and trade him already. No matter how many 3-team ideas or salary eating ideas you come up with, you aren't getting Corey Seager or his ilk. Just move on down to the next tier and hammer it out.

Would the Orioles give up one of Bundy, Harvey or Gausman in a Cole Hamels deal?

Yes, I could see any of them dealt in this deal. But only one. I don't see a clear most likely of the trio.

Ok, Just looking for suggestions with a few questions..

Question 1- OBVIOUSLY trading for cubs slugger Baez might be a little unrealistic. But in real life circumstance...would the cubs do a XB/Pitching prospect for him? XB has struggled but he was a higher ranked prospect coming into the year.

Also worthy of noting, Theo is the one who signed XB while he isn't the one who draft baez. Not to say he prefers XB but that's prob worthy of noting anyways.

Question 2..Whats a realistic trade for Stanton? 2 Of Mookie/Owens/Swihart? More? less?

Question 3- What could the sox expect in a trade for cespedes/Nap/Craig etc in terms of prospects? 1 A potential player? 2?


Thanks in advance!

1. No. The Cubs don't trade Baez's deficiencies for Bogaerts' deficiencies. It makes no sense to trade SS for SS when the Cubs are already rolling in SS's. Unless the SP prospect is top notch (Owens, maybe Ranaudo), which I'm sure you wouldn't do.

2. There's no such thing as a realistic trade for Stanton right now. He's balling and MIA needs someone to put 5k butts in the seats nightly. It would take a bit more for a fair deal.

3. Why? OK so you're clearing a spot for Stanton? I can't really come up with anything realistic since Craig and Cespedes just got there. Napoli, it depends on his stats.

Boston (48-38, 0 GB) Offers:
SP Henry Owens (21 Years, 73 OVR, A POT, AAA Stat Line: 0-2, 5.06, 10k/6bb)
SP Trey Ball (19 Years, 59 OVR, A POT, Single-A Stat Line: 4-6, 6.10, 67k/36bb)

Colorado (39-49, 8 GB) Offers:
RF Michael Cuddyer (34 Years, 85 OVR, B POT, $7.4 M/1 Year, MLB Stat Line: .280/.360/.419)

Boston is doing well, despite losing Papi to a dislocated ankle and Bogaerts to a fractured arm, while Victorino is gone with a shattered wrist for at least another 2 months. They've currently got 3B/Util Ryan Roberts (33 Years, 74 OVR, C POT, MLB Stat Line: .267/.346/.345) playing RF, where I guess he's doing a serviceable job.

FWIW, Boston's RFs are cursed. Bryce Brentz, Daniel Nava, and Keury De La Cruz are all on the DL (on top of the aforementioned Victorino).

Colorado's out of the game, basically, after they lost Tulo and his backup for a long stretch.

As far as CPU-initiated trades go, this one interests me.

Is Ben Cherington also clearing out his office in preparation for getting fired over this deal? Wow. Cuddy does not have that type of value, not close. I'm not saying Owens is unmovable, but 2 A POT SPs for Cuddy? That's absurd, even if Ball is only an "A". I think Ball, by himself, is slightly too much for a Cudder rental and I don't like Ball much.

I sense the thread is about to see it's 3rd or 20th discussion about whether the "Henry Owens will be dealt for nothing short of Stanton" opinion is valid.

it's soooooooooooooooo not imo

What's with the invisible ink, AC? lol.

Owens can be traded, but it's for more than a Michael Cuddyer rental and less than a Stanton. Somewhere in the middle lies the truth.

[sink4ever]

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As I mentioned in a previous post, I'm in July with my A's/Padres franchise. I've already gotten some feedback on my potential Padres trades (thanks Deuce!), so now I'd like to toss out some possibilities for the A's. The A's are in contention, 2 GB Seattle in the West and 1st for the WC.

There are three main players I'm interested in, but I'm not sure if any of them make sense for a mid-season trade or if I should wait until the off-season. Here are the players I'm willing to possibly trade:

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AJ Griffin - 13-3, 3.07 ERA, 1.21 WHIP
Scott Kazmir - 7-6, 4.01 ERA, 1.33 WHIP, 7.3 K/9
Jim Johnson - 0-3, 20 SV, 2.96 ERA, 1.36 WHIP
Alberto Callaspo - .274/.351/.372, 7 HR
Jed Lowrie - .252/.330/.364, 6 HR
Coco Crisp - .246/.318/.328, 16 SB
Josh Reddick - .234/.293/.405, 14 HR
Billy McKinney (Low B, Single A)
Bobby Wahl (Low B, AA) - 4-7, 3.48 ERA, 1.26 WHIP

And here are the players I'm interested in :

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Indians (51-43, 1st AL Central)
Needs: RP, OF
Nick Swisher - .259/.344/.432. 14 HR
Shaun Marcum (AAA) - 10-5, 3.40 ERA, 1.29 WHIP

Thoughts: The Indians are doing well and Swisher has been solid for them at 1B. This really doesn't make sense for a mid-season trade, but any thoughts on what they would want for an off-season trade? Could I start with Lowrie, Crisp, and Wahl?

White Sox (40-56, 5th AL Central 12 GB)
Needs: Everything
Adam Eaton - .249/.325/.386, 11 HR, 10 SB
Adam Dunn - .244/.340/.366 in 164 AB, 4 HR

Thoughts: I think this one is the most realistic right now. I know the White Sox haven't had Eaton for long, but I have to imagine they'd give him up for something like Griffin + McKinney. Again, may wait for the off-season.

Giants (50-45, 2nd NL West, 5.5 GB, 2nd NL WC)
Needs: SP, 1B, 2B, OF
Brandon Belt - .214/.310/.344, 8 HR

Thoughts: I'm really only mentioning him because of his poor performance. Probably a bit out of my price range still, but how long do you think his leash is in SF if he keeps struggling?

Any ideas? I would really like to get both Swisher and Eaton and would be willing to overpay a bit, but I know I may only have the pieces for one of them. Thanks!

[AC]

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I think you should cut off debate and trade him already. No matter how many 3-team ideas or salary eating ideas you come up with, you aren't getting Corey Seager or his ilk. Just move on down to the next tier and hammer it out.

Seager hit like .260/.320 in the minors and isn't even playing shortstop so I'm pretty sure I could if I wanted but seriously, all I'm asking for is a hard value to work with here.