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  • Deuce2223
    Hall Of Fame
    • Dec 2007
    • 12571

    #6661
    Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by sink4ever
    I've now reached early July in my Padres/A's franchise and would like to make some moves. I'm in last place in the division and looking to trade some veterans to improve my farm system. Right now I have two relatively major moves in mind and I was hoping to get some feedback.

    Trade #1
    Padres Trade:
    Ian Kennedy - 4-7, 3.66 ERA, 110.2 IP, 106 H, 71 K, 25 BB, 17 HR
    AND
    Carlos Quentin - .248/.294/.435, 15 HR
    AND
    Huston Street - 0-1, 4.13 ERA, 25 SV, 28.3 IP, 27 H, 28 K, 6 BB, 2 HR

    To Minnesota Twins (45-39, T1st) For:
    Aaron Hicks (24 years old, High C) - .225/.270/.304, 138 AB, 1 HR, 0 SB
    AND
    Eduardo Nunez - (26, AAA, Low B) - .264/.323/.368, 2 HR, 15 SB
    AND
    Trevor May (24, AAA, Low-Mid B) - 5-9, 3.89 ERA, 104 IP, 124 H, 116 K, 40 BB, 6 HR
    OR
    Logan Darnell (25, AAA, Low B) - 12-2, 2.16 ERA, 125 IP, 103 H, 90 K, 27 BB, 5 HR

    Thought Process
    Kennedy immediately becomes one of the best-rated SP's for the Twins and gives their rotation a very nice boost. They had been approaching me about Quentin because they could use another RH bat with pop. Apart from Perkins, their entire bullpen has been pretty lousy. Street had a horrible first month but has been lights out since then. Hicks has been injured most of the year, but he's the kind of OF I'm looking for (speed, defense, a bit of pop). I would prefer May to Darnell if possible, he could compete for a spot in the rotation as soon as next year. Nunez would be an ideal utility infielder for me.


    Trade #2
    Padres Trade:
    Will Venable - .289/.331/.509, 12 HR, 15 SB
    AND
    Tyson Ross (Low B) - 5-5, 5.00 ERA, 90 IP, 102 H, 69 K, 33 BB, 12 HR
    AND
    Casey Kelly (24 years old, AAA, High C) - 2-12, 5.77 ERA, 93.7 IP, 119 H, 95 K, 32 B, 12 HR

    To KC Royals (42-43, 3.5GB) For:
    Bubba Starling (21, AA, Mid B) - .267/.330/.437, 12 HR, 13SB
    AND
    John Lamb (23, AAA, High C) - 3-3, 3.34 ERA, 62 IP, 57 H, 49 K, 17 BB, 7 HR
    AND
    Justin Maxwell (30, AAA, Mid C) - .284/.376/.471 in 102AB, 5 HR

    Thought Process:
    Venable is having a good year and is signed through next year at a reasonable price. Ross is younger and cost-controlled with decent potential, but his poor numbers this year are deflating his value a bit. Kelly is pretty much just a throw-in who could use a change of scenery. Bubba got off to a poor start, heated up a bit, but has cooled back down. His numbers aren't bad in AA and again he really fits the mold I'm looking for. Lamb is a nice young lefty, even if he'll probably never be more than a #4 or #5. Maxwell doesn't have a ton of value, but I like him a 4th or 5th outfielder.

    Anyone have any thoughts on these trades? I'm aiming for 100% fair and maybe 70% realistic. My main concern is that I don't want to underpay for Bubba Starling, I'd be willing to replace Kelly with a low-B pitching prospect if that helps. I feel like I may be giving too much in the Twins trade, but I'd rather err on the side of overpaying.
    I am not a expert, but to me I would say the Twins are getting a pretty good deal considering they are in 1st Place. They are getting 3 Major League pieces that should help them continue to keep ahold of first and are not giving up any major trade prospects (I guess May is #8) but it's not like you are asking for Stewart, Meyer or Berrios.

    I would think you could ask for both May and Darnell and it would still be fair.

    As far as the KC trade. How is their rotation doing. Does Ross and Kelly give them better options to put in the MLB rotation or will then end up in AAA.

    Also how is does Venable fit into their OF situation? Like how is Dyson and Aoki playing

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    • sink4ever
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      • Dec 2004
      • 1153

      #6662
      Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by Deuce2223
      I am not a expert, but to me I would say the Twins are getting a pretty good deal considering they are in 1st Place. They are getting 3 Major League pieces that should help them continue to keep ahold of first and are not giving up any major trade prospects (I guess May is #8) but it's not like you are asking for Stewart, Meyer or Berrios.

      I would think you could ask for both May and Darnell and it would still be fair.

      As far as the KC trade. How is their rotation doing. Does Ross and Kelly give them better options to put in the MLB rotation or will then end up in AAA.

      Also how is does Venable fit into their OF situation? Like how is Dyson and Aoki playing
      Thanks, really appreciate your thoughts. I'll check in on KC when I get home this evening and get back to you. I believe their OF could use the help but not sure about their rotation.

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      • Deuce2223
        Hall Of Fame
        • Dec 2007
        • 12571

        #6663
        Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

        Just finished the draft in my 2015 season. The Cubs are currently leading the NL WC (June 4th). They have Baez playing 2B, Russell play 3B and Bryant playing RF.

        M. Olt is currently on their bench but is hitting .327 with 7 HR and 16 RBI in 107 AB's. He is a 76/B in my Franchise.

        I would like to put him at 1B/DH as my team could use some power in the middle of the lineup too.

        They also have Junior Lake (73/B) currently hitting .267 with 5 HR and 25 RBI in a rotating platoon with Ruggiano/Solar/Kalish/Szczur in LF/CF with Alcantara in AAA along with Almora.




        The Cubs current rotation is
        (82)T. Wood 3-5 3.97 ERA
        (79) E. Jackson 4-4 4.87 ERA
        (77) R. Erlin 5-1 2.98 ERA (acquired last season in a trade)
        (77) J. Arrieta 5-3 3.87 ERA
        (71) David Hale 2-1 2.43 ERA (also acquired last season).

        Hale took the place of Straily who is on the DL for the next 2 months.

        The Cubs current bullpen has F. Doubront as their only LHP and he is 1-2 with a 8.38 ERA and they have no LHP in AA expect Rusin who is in the rotation.


        I would like to clear up some spots in my AAA rotation and bullpen as well as my MLB bullpen.

        I have

        LHP SP D. Hultzen (79/B) currently 8-0 with a 2.74 ERA in AAA with 8/12 QS

        LHP RP J. Mijares (66/C) currently 3-1 2.67 ERA in AAA

        LHP RP L. Luetge (68/C) currently bouncing between MLB/AAA at one point had 15 IP without giving up a run, but hit a cold stretch.

        RHP D. Farquhar (79/C) currently 1-1 with 3 saves, 3.09 ERA and a 10.19 K/9

        RHP C. Smith (82/B) currently 14/15 saves in AAA with a 1.03 ERA.


        My thought all 5 for Olt and Lake. Hultzen would move into the MLB rotation replacing Hale.

        Luetge, Farquhar and Smith would also move into the bullpen, Mijares would go to AAA and give them a Lefty RP to be able to callup.


        They would instantly upgrade their bullpen and rotation and they could replace Olt's and Lake's production with Alcantara and Almora moving up from AAA

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        • NDAlum
          ND
          • Jun 2010
          • 11453

          #6664
          Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

          Ok so here are the trades I'm going to make:

          Trade #1
          Minnesota Twins (37-58) send:
          3B Trevor Plouffe (27 yrs old 75 OVR C POT - .268, 13 HR, 46 RBI, .325 OBP, .433 SLG% - 1-yr deal @ $1.2M)

          Pittsburgh Pirates (45-50) send:
          SP Casey Sadler (23 yrs old 69 OVR High C POT (79) - AAA Stats: 10-4, 124.2 IP, 3.25 ERA, 83 K, 35 BB, 1.21 WHIP)
          CF Barrett Barnes (22 yrs old 56 OVR High C POT (78) - In A-ball no stats)


          Why the Twins do it? They have the Cuban beast Miguel Sano sitting in AAA ready to make the jump. He's a 74 OVR A POT and the Twins are out of it. Sano is hitting .278-7 HR-37 RBI and looks ready to be handed the reigns. SS is taken care of with youngster Danny Santana playing well hitting .295 in 200 MLB AB's. The Twins have the most horrendous ERA in the MLB with a 5.24 team ERA which is a full 0.60 ERA more than the 29th team! Their best starter at the moment has a 4.79 ERA, they need arms and good young ones. Sadler will get a chance immediately to help the team as the Twins are going youth movement post AS break.

          Why the Pirates do it? We have so many young arms we can give up Sadler to potentially upgrade a MIF position. Barrett Barnes was a decent prospect but we won't miss much with him. It makes sense to try and grab a guy like Plouffe as a cheap addition for a playoff run. Don't want to sell the farm in the second half and give up our studs...so we will only get a "solid" player.


          Trade #2
          Chicago White Sox (46-51, 9.5 GB Division & 10.5 GB Wild Card) send:
          SP John Danks (28 yrs old 79 OVR B POT | 4-8, 120 IP, 3.08 ERA, 54 K, 27 BB, 1.20 WHIP | 3-yrs left @ $3.8M each)

          Pittsburgh Pirates (45-50) send:
          SS Jacoby Jones (21 yrd old 54 OVR B POT (83) | AA stats: .277 - 1 HR - 4 RBI in 83 AB's with .326 OBP & .422 SLG%)


          Why the White Sox do it? They don't feel like they can contend with their roster and they are pretty much out of it. Danks has been solid but not amazing and his 54 K's is a pretty ugly number in 120 IP. He's likely been very lucky so far this season with RISP. The Sox need MIF prospects and Jones is a perfect fit. He's a versatile guy and will have a chance to wait a couple years before he's ready to make an impact. He should develop into a nice player.

          Why the Pirates do it? A veteran LHP in the rotation is going to be nice. Jeff Locke didn't get the job done this year so Danks can possibly come in and be that guy to get some hard fought victories.
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          • Scott
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            • Jul 2002
            • 20032

            #6665
            Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

            What about Pedro Alvarez? How is he doing?
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            • NDAlum
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              • Jun 2010
              • 11453

              #6666
              Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

              Pedro is MVP worthy right now so his future is bright in PIT. Easily my best hitter if the season so far.

              .291 - 22 HR - 75 RBI - .360 OBP - .561 SLG%
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              • Scott
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                • Jul 2002
                • 20032

                #6667
                Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                Originally posted by NDAlum
                Pedro is MVP worthy right now so his future is bright in PIT. Easily my best hitter if the season so far.

                .291 - 22 HR - 75 RBI - .360 OBP - .561 SLG%
                So How would Plouffe fit in there? Bench player?
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                • sink4ever
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                  • Dec 2004
                  • 1153

                  #6668
                  Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by Deuce2223
                  I am not a expert, but to me I would say the Twins are getting a pretty good deal considering they are in 1st Place. They are getting 3 Major League pieces that should help them continue to keep ahold of first and are not giving up any major trade prospects (I guess May is #8) but it's not like you are asking for Stewart, Meyer or Berrios.

                  I would think you could ask for both May and Darnell and it would still be fair.

                  As far as the KC trade. How is their rotation doing. Does Ross and Kelly give them better options to put in the MLB rotation or will then end up in AAA.

                  Also how is does Venable fit into their OF situation? Like how is Dyson and Aoki playing
                  Originally posted by sink4ever
                  Thanks, really appreciate your thoughts. I'll check in on KC when I get home this evening and get back to you. I believe their OF could use the help but not sure about their rotation.
                  Ok, so KC's rotation needs help badly. Here are their top 4 starters (leaving out the 5th starter because I missed a waiver claim and need to fix it).

                  Jason Vargas - 2-10, 4.12 ERA, 1.51 WHIP
                  Aaron Brooks - 7-4, 2.98 ERA, 1.14 WHIP
                  Bruce Chen - 7-6, 4.63 ERA, 1.40 WHIP
                  Jeremy Guthrie - 9-6, 4.60 ERA, 1.41 WHIP

                  Ross would become the 2nd best rated SP in the rotation. I could also send Eric Stults (6-4, 3.76 ERA, 1.26 WHIP) even though he's a bit older.

                  Their OF is actually pretty decent.

                  Alex Gordon - .289/.359/.467 in 287 AB
                  Lorenzo Cain - .303/.354/.474 in 76 AB
                  Jarrod Dyson - .283/.342/.350 in 180 AB
                  Norichika Aoki - .289/.351/.444 in 304 AB

                  Maybe I should get a 3rd team involved. The Brewers are in 1st place in the NL Central but haven't been getting much production from LF. Wily Peralta, Marco Estrada, and Tyler Thornburg are all doing well but there's not room for all of them in the rotation. The Mariners would be another option.

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                  • sink4ever
                    MVP
                    • Dec 2004
                    • 1153

                    #6669
                    Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by Deuce2223
                    Just finished the draft in my 2015 season. The Cubs are currently leading the NL WC (June 4th). They have Baez playing 2B, Russell play 3B and Bryant playing RF.

                    M. Olt is currently on their bench but is hitting .327 with 7 HR and 16 RBI in 107 AB's. He is a 76/B in my Franchise.

                    I would like to put him at 1B/DH as my team could use some power in the middle of the lineup too.

                    They also have Junior Lake (73/B) currently hitting .267 with 5 HR and 25 RBI in a rotating platoon with Ruggiano/Solar/Kalish/Szczur in LF/CF with Alcantara in AAA along with Almora.




                    The Cubs current rotation is
                    (82)T. Wood 3-5 3.97 ERA
                    (79) E. Jackson 4-4 4.87 ERA
                    (77) R. Erlin 5-1 2.98 ERA (acquired last season in a trade)
                    (77) J. Arrieta 5-3 3.87 ERA
                    (71) David Hale 2-1 2.43 ERA (also acquired last season).

                    Hale took the place of Straily who is on the DL for the next 2 months.

                    The Cubs current bullpen has F. Doubront as their only LHP and he is 1-2 with a 8.38 ERA and they have no LHP in AA expect Rusin who is in the rotation.


                    I would like to clear up some spots in my AAA rotation and bullpen as well as my MLB bullpen.

                    I have

                    LHP SP D. Hultzen (79/B) currently 8-0 with a 2.74 ERA in AAA with 8/12 QS

                    LHP RP J. Mijares (66/C) currently 3-1 2.67 ERA in AAA

                    LHP RP L. Luetge (68/C) currently bouncing between MLB/AAA at one point had 15 IP without giving up a run, but hit a cold stretch.

                    RHP D. Farquhar (79/C) currently 1-1 with 3 saves, 3.09 ERA and a 10.19 K/9

                    RHP C. Smith (82/B) currently 14/15 saves in AAA with a 1.03 ERA.


                    My thought all 5 for Olt and Lake. Hultzen would move into the MLB rotation replacing Hale.

                    Luetge, Farquhar and Smith would also move into the bullpen, Mijares would go to AAA and give them a Lefty RP to be able to callup.


                    They would instantly upgrade their bullpen and rotation and they could replace Olt's and Lake's production with Alcantara and Almora moving up from AAA
                    How is Hultzen's durability in your franchise? I feel with those numbers (if he's staying healthy), that you're overpaying.

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                    • NDAlum
                      ND
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 11453

                      #6670
                      Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by Scott
                      So How would Plouffe fit in there? Bench player?

                      He is going to play SS for me. He plays every position besides C/CF
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                      • Deuce2223
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 12571

                        #6671
                        Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by sink4ever
                        Ok, so KC's rotation needs help badly. Here are their top 4 starters (leaving out the 5th starter because I missed a waiver claim and need to fix it).

                        Jason Vargas - 2-10, 4.12 ERA, 1.51 WHIP
                        Aaron Brooks - 7-4, 2.98 ERA, 1.14 WHIP
                        Bruce Chen - 7-6, 4.63 ERA, 1.40 WHIP
                        Jeremy Guthrie - 9-6, 4.60 ERA, 1.41 WHIP

                        Ross would become the 2nd best rated SP in the rotation. I could also send Eric Stults (6-4, 3.76 ERA, 1.26 WHIP) even though he's a bit older.

                        Their OF is actually pretty decent.

                        Alex Gordon - .289/.359/.467 in 287 AB
                        Lorenzo Cain - .303/.354/.474 in 76 AB
                        Jarrod Dyson - .283/.342/.350 in 180 AB
                        Norichika Aoki - .289/.351/.444 in 304 AB

                        Maybe I should get a 3rd team involved. The Brewers are in 1st place in the NL Central but haven't been getting much production from LF. Wily Peralta, Marco Estrada, and Tyler Thornburg are all doing well but there's not room for all of them in the rotation. The Mariners would be another option.
                        I like the idea of the Brewers and someone like Estrada. I actually sent him to K.C. in my Franchise.

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                        • hampshirestags
                          Pro
                          • May 2014
                          • 500

                          #6672
                          Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by NDAlum
                          Ok so here are the trades I'm going to make:

                          Trade #1
                          Minnesota Twins (37-58) send:
                          3B Trevor Plouffe (27 yrs old 75 OVR C POT - .268, 13 HR, 46 RBI, .325 OBP, .433 SLG% - 1-yr deal @ $1.2M)

                          Pittsburgh Pirates (45-50) send:
                          SP Casey Sadler (23 yrs old 69 OVR High C POT (79) - AAA Stats: 10-4, 124.2 IP, 3.25 ERA, 83 K, 35 BB, 1.21 WHIP)
                          CF Barrett Barnes (22 yrs old 56 OVR High C POT (78) - In A-ball no stats)


                          Why the Twins do it? They have the Cuban beast Miguel Sano sitting in AAA ready to make the jump. He's a 74 OVR A POT and the Twins are out of it. Sano is hitting .278-7 HR-37 RBI and looks ready to be handed the reigns. SS is taken care of with youngster Danny Santana playing well hitting .295 in 200 MLB AB's. The Twins have the most horrendous ERA in the MLB with a 5.24 team ERA which is a full 0.60 ERA more than the 29th team! Their best starter at the moment has a 4.79 ERA, they need arms and good young ones. Sadler will get a chance immediately to help the team as the Twins are going youth movement post AS break.

                          Why the Pirates do it? We have so many young arms we can give up Sadler to potentially upgrade a MIF position. Barrett Barnes was a decent prospect but we won't miss much with him. It makes sense to try and grab a guy like Plouffe as a cheap addition for a playoff run. Don't want to sell the farm in the second half and give up our studs...so we will only get a "solid" player.


                          Trade #2
                          Chicago White Sox (46-51, 9.5 GB Division & 10.5 GB Wild Card) send:
                          SP John Danks (28 yrs old 79 OVR B POT | 4-8, 120 IP, 3.08 ERA, 54 K, 27 BB, 1.20 WHIP | 3-yrs left @ $3.8M each)

                          Pittsburgh Pirates (45-50) send:
                          SS Jacoby Jones (21 yrd old 54 OVR B POT (83) | AA stats: .277 - 1 HR - 4 RBI in 83 AB's with .326 OBP & .422 SLG%)


                          Why the White Sox do it? They don't feel like they can contend with their roster and they are pretty much out of it. Danks has been solid but not amazing and his 54 K's is a pretty ugly number in 120 IP. He's likely been very lucky so far this season with RISP. The Sox need MIF prospects and Jones is a perfect fit. He's a versatile guy and will have a chance to wait a couple years before he's ready to make an impact. He should develop into a nice player.

                          Why the Pirates do it? A veteran LHP in the rotation is going to be nice. Jeff Locke didn't get the job done this year so Danks can possibly come in and be that guy to get some hard fought victories.
                          Sano is Dominican, not Cuban. Not that anyone cares but me :-)

                          Plouffe at SS? I'm a fan of his but your defense is going to suffer.
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                          • NDAlum
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                            • Jun 2010
                            • 11453

                            #6673
                            Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                            I meant to say Dominican! My bad

                            Plouffe is rated decent as a field and not too far away from Mercer. My offense has been sooo bad I need to try and do something new. If anything I can sub in Mercer in late-game situations if I need my best D lineup out there. If I need to I'm sure Neil Walker could move to short and I'll throw Plouffe to 2B.
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                            • BlueJays09
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                              • Jul 2011
                              • 2553

                              #6674
                              MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                              Indians are 11 games out, Michael Bourn hitting .257 with 17 steals. Could I grab him for DJ Davis and Mickey Storey?


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                              • Deuce2223
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Dec 2007
                                • 12571

                                #6675
                                Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by BlueJays09
                                Indians are 11 games out, Michael Bourn hitting .257 with 17 steals. Could I grab him for DJ Davis and Mickey Storey?


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                                Even with him hitting only .257 his 17 SB's still proves he is one of the better SB guy's in the league. When you say 11 games out where exactly in your season (month and date) and what level is DJ Davis playing at (AA or AAA) and what are his stats. Storey is worth a High D on the spreadsheet so unless he has some pretty amazing stats, I am not sure what value he really gives to this trade other then a throw in on your part especially if the Indians are 11 games out, not sure why they need a 28 yr old RP.. So to me you need to start adding alot more to that offer. Bourn is worth 2 Low B's and a High C on the spread sheet and it's not like his BA is that far off from his career Avg of .270.

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