MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

[Matty86]

Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Okay, my Red Sox are 6.5 back in the WC on July 1. I've made some moves to try and get us in position to make a run but after inconsistency I'm ready to throw in the towel. Not looking to do a full blow up, but I'm selling at the deadline. I'm going to just go through my roster and put down what I have. Let me know who I may be able to ship out...

SP:
Peavy
Lester
Buchholz (2 years left)
Lackey
Doubront
Ranaudo

I have Owens, Barnes, and Britton in the minors who could step up to finish the season or next season at the bottom of the rotation if needed.

RP:
Uehara 0-0 18 saves 22K in only 18.1 IP (Not many save chances..) hasn't given up a run all season... Ratings have dropped way off, but based on the numbers he should be heavily sought after...
Tazawa 0-3 2.00 34K 27IP
Miller 1-1 3.05 27K in 20.2 IP
Mujica (2 years left) 1-2 2.50 32K in 36IP
Badenhop
Capuano -AAA
Hill -AAA
Breslow

C:
David Ross has been terrible, Pierzynski has done pretty well (but ratings are dropping... .325 avg 11HR I'd move him also), I'd move Ross for next to nothing and bring up one of my kids to back up Aj to finish the season.

1B:
I have Napoli and Ortiz for another year, I signed Morales early in the year and he didn't do much for me, so I'd like to move him if possible.

SS:
Asdrubal Cabrera, I brought him in this season so I'll likely try to resign him.
Bogaerts has been my 3B for most of the season and will keep him there next season if I still have him
Stephen Drew is in AAA and I'd love to move him for anything I can get!

OF: I have lots of outfielders... the following are in their last year of contract: Josh Willingham, Gomes, Sizemore, Ozuna, Bradley Jr. They have ALL hit under .240 this season... I also have Victorino who's got 2 years left and hitting just over .240. My most consistent OF by far has been Chris Colabello (.309 2HR in 136 AB. With a .415 vs LHP)


Basically the only position who I'm set for next season is 2B and SS. Everyplace else could change. Just looking for options, I can get info on any other teams if anyone has suggestions. At this point I'm just playing the last few innings of each games, so I'll be reaching the deadline sometime today.

Thanks!


Also, the teams who look to be buyers at the deadline are: Det, KC, ChiSox, LAA, Sea, Wash, StL, Col, Ari, Mil, ChiC, LaD, SD, Atl and SF.

[AC]

Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Could Cleveland send say Michael Brantley and say Dorssys Paulino for Matt Moore?

Depends on how Brantley and Moore are playing. If Moore is fringe average like IRL and not injured, and Brantley is having a breakout year like IRL, there may be a fit. Paulino is pretty irrelevant though.

[CBJacketsTribefan]

Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Depends on how Brantley and Moore are playing. If Moore is fringe average like IRL and not injured, and Brantley is having a breakout year like IRL, there may be a fit. Paulino is pretty irrelevant though.

Value chart says different. has him rated as more valueable then Brantley. I also am not so sure I would call this a breakout year for Brantley, more like a year he has had a healthy off-season and got a full ST instead of getting off to slow starts and in baseball shape during the season.

[MattFromTheWire]

Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

What's with the different values on the chart. Just started looking at it.

Kris Bryant has:

Value 1: High A
Value 2: Low A
Value 3: Mid B

Giacarlon Stanton has:

Value 1: High A
Value 2: Low A
Value 3: Low A
Value 4: High B
Value 5: Mid B

[CBJacketsTribefan]

Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

What's with the different values on the chart. Just started looking at it.

Kris Bryant has:

Value 1: High A
Value 2: Low A
Value 3: Mid B

Giacarlon Stanton has:

Value 1: High A
Value 2: Low A
Value 3: Low A
Value 4: High B
Value 5: Mid B

You don't think Bryant has Stantons value do you?

[MattFromTheWire]

Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

You don't think Bryant has Stantons value do you?

Absolutely not.

I'm just trying to figure out what's the reasoning for 1, 2 , 3, 4, or 5 different values on players.

Learning the whole thing.


So would 2 Mid B players = Low A player?


I've never used the trade sheet in past generations of The Show.

[TDavis45]

Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Yes, I am a Royals fan. But in relation to real life... Wade Davis holds a better value than a high C. The guy is absolutely dealing this year and theres even talks that the Royals will trade either him or Holland. Davis could easily be the Royals (or another team's) closer.

[Matty86]

Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Absolutely not.

I'm just trying to figure out what's the reasoning for 1, 2 , 3, 4, or 5 different values on players.

Learning the whole thing.


So would 2 Mid B players = Low A player?


I've never used the trade sheet in past generations of The Show.

Each value = a player... so your example of:
Kris Bryant has:

Value 1: High A
Value 2: Low A
Value 3: Mid B

Giacarlon Stanton has:

Value 1: High A
Value 2: Low A
Value 3: Low A
Value 4: High B
Value 5: Mid B

means that to get Stanton you would have to give up 5 players, a High A, two Low A's, a High B, and a Mid B.

To get Bryant you would have to give up 3 players: High A, Low A, Mid B.

[AC]

Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Yes, I am a Royals fan. But in relation to real life... Wade Davis holds a better value than a high C. The guy is absolutely dealing this year and theres even talks that the Royals will trade either him or Holland. Davis could easily be the Royals (or another team's) closer.

I'd put Davis' value as a mid B. Or Low B/high C.

[UTAllTheWay]

Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Each value = a player... so your example of:
Kris Bryant has:

Value 1: High A
Value 2: Low A
Value 3: Mid B

Giacarlon Stanton has:

Value 1: High A
Value 2: Low A
Value 3: Low A
Value 4: High B
Value 5: Mid B

means that to get Stanton you would have to give up 5 players, a High A, two Low A's, a High B, and a Mid B.

To get Bryant you would have to give up 3 players: High A, Low A, Mid B.

I do it differently. I view the values as a total for that player. Each value doesn't have to count as one player.

For instance, let's say I have the Cubs, and I want to get Stanton... and I'm willing to give up Bryant to get him.

As you wrote, Bryant's value is:
High A
Low A
Mid B

So if I wanted to get Stanton, and I used Bryant to get him, here would be Stanton's value:

High A
Low A
Low A
High B
Mid B

So Bryant's value takes away the High A, Low A, and Mid B. To get Stanton, I would need to include more player(s) to satisfy the left over value... in this case the Low A and High B.

I could be doing it wrong, but that's how I view it.

[WaitTilNextYear]

Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

What's with the different values on the chart. Just started looking at it.

Kris Bryant has:

Value 1: High A
Value 2: Low A
Value 3: Mid B

Giacarlon Stanton has:

Value 1: High A
Value 2: Low A
Value 3: Low A
Value 4: High B
Value 5: Mid B

It's not all that complicated...

To get Bryant you'd have to give the Cubs a High A + Low A + Mid B value (although they would never trade him, so it's unrealistic). This could be satisfied with a single player that has similar value, or with multiple players of lesser value.

To get Stanton, the value you'd need to give MIA is different, but the interpretation is the same. If you traded MIA players worth High A + Low A + Low A + High B + Mid B for Giancarlo Stanton, it would be considered a fair deal.

[Matty86]

Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

I do it differently. I view the values as a total for that player. Each value doesn't have to count as one player.

For instance, let's say I have the Cubs, and I want to get Stanton... and I'm willing to give up Bryant to get him.

As you wrote, Bryant's value is:
High A
Low A
Mid B

So if I wanted to get Stanton, and I used Bryant to get him, here would be Stanton's value:

High A
Low A
Low A
High B
Mid B

So Bryant's value takes away the High A, Low A, and Mid B. To get Stanton, I would need to include more player(s) to satisfy the left over value... in this case the Low A and High B.

I could be doing it wrong, but that's how I view it.

Completely agree, that's how I do it when I'm working out deals for myself. Was just trying to explain to him what each one meant. Hopefully what I said makes sense too. I was just trying to break it down to the basics haha

[WaitTilNextYear]

Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Absolutely not.

I'm just trying to figure out what's the reasoning for 1, 2 , 3, 4, or 5 different values on players.

Learning the whole thing.


So would 2 Mid B players = Low A player?


I've never used the trade sheet in past generations of The Show.

The bolded question is a good question which is a bit of a gray area. In general, the answer is no, 2 mid B's do not equate to 1 low A. It's frowned on to quantity your way into a deal, but this thread can be good for hashing out gray area situations like this, which often depend on exactly which mid B and low A players you're talking about as well as the fit and desperation level of each team in the deal.

[AC]

Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Also, even ignoring quantity/quality, two mid B's =/= a low A. Probably closer to two high B's.

[Matty86]

Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

I'm unloading some veterans right now... complete brain fart. When trading for prospects, aren't they all listed as 1 year deals? I can't remember how to tell how long they're signed for.. or if they're automatically resigned until they have service time? Probably a really dumb question, sorry.