MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

[CBJacketsTribefan]

Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

I have looked into doing a couple of trades


Cle Sends:
Michael Brantley (a top MLB LF) , Dorssys Paulino (High B Low B)


TB Sends:
Matt Moore (Mid A Mid B)




Cle Sends:
Justin Masterson (2 High B)


Boston Sends:
Jon Lester (High B Mid B)




Cle Sends:
Carlos Santana (High B, Mid B, High C) Carlos Carrasco (Mid C) Nick Swisher (Mid B Low B)


Wash Sends:
Jordan Zimmerman (Low A Low B) Drew Storen (Low B) Tyler Cippard (High C High C)


Cle Sends:
Danny Salazar (Low A High B)


STL Sends:
Michael Wacha (Low A Mid B Mid B)




Cle Sends:
Justin Masterson (High B High B) Jose Ramirez (Mid C) Jesus Aguliar (High C)


CHC Send:
Jeff Smardzija (High B High B Low B)




Cle Sends:
Danny Salazar (Mid A High B)


CHC Sends:
Javier Baez (Mid A Low B High C)




Cle Sends:
Justin Masterson (Mid B Mid B)


LAD Sends:
Corey Seager (Mid B Mid B)




Cle Sends:
Danny Salazar (Mid A High B)


OAK Sends:
Josh Donaldson (Low A Mid B) or Yones Cespedes (Same Value)








I tried to match each others value in deals in equal value or deals like my CLE/STL deal where Salazar is worth 2 players of Mid A-High B value and Wacha is worth 3 players one of Mid A but the other 2 are only Mid B, the 2 Mid B probably equal to a High B.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Also, even ignoring quantity/quality, two mid B's =/= a low A. Probably closer to two high B's.

I would agree.

Furthermore, while 2 mid C's to get 1 high C would almost always be considered fair, the bar is higher the higher the value. So, 2 mid B's for a high B or 2 mid A's for a High A, while perhaps not being rejected automatically, might be more heavily scrutinized.

[WaitTilNextYear]

Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

I have looked into doing a couple of trades


Cle Sends:
Michael Brantley (a top MLB LF) , Dorssys Paulino (High B Low B)


TB Sends:
Matt Moore (Mid A Mid B)




Cle Sends:
Justin Masterson (2 High B)


Boston Sends:
Jon Lester (High B Mid B)




Cle Sends:
Carlos Santana (High B, Mid B, High C) Carlos Carrasco (Mid C) Nick Swisher (Mid B Low B)


Wash Sends:
Jordan Zimmerman (Low A Low B) Drew Storen (Low B) Tyler Cippard (High C High C)


Cle Sends:
Danny Salazar (Low A High B)


STL Sends:
Michael Wacha (Low A Mid B Mid B)




Cle Sends:
Justin Masterson (High B High B) Jose Ramirez (Mid C) Jesus Aguliar (High C)


CHC Send:
Jeff Smardzija (High B High B Low B)




Cle Sends:
Danny Salazar (Mid A High B)


CHC Sends:
Javier Baez (Mid A Low B High C)




Cle Sends:
Justin Masterson (Mid B Mid B)


LAD Sends:
Corey Seager (Mid B Mid B)




Cle Sends:
Danny Salazar (Mid A High B)


OAK Sends:
Josh Donaldson (Low A Mid B) or Yones Cespedes (Same Value)








I tried to match each others value in deals in equal value or deals like my CLE/STL deal where Salazar is worth 2 players of Mid A-High B value and Wacha is worth 3 players one of Mid A but the other 2 are only Mid B, the 2 Mid B probably equal to a High B.

A lot of these don't make much sense. Although the values may be close, in general you want a contender matched up with a doormat. The contender will trade prospects and the doormat will trade veterans. Most of these are net neutral vet for vet or prospect for prospect deals, which wouldn't really have a reason to occur. For example, why would the Cubs want Masterson if they don't want Shark?? Why would the Red Sox want Masterson instead of Lester when they signed one and let one go a while back?

It depends on whether you are going for fairness and realism, or if your trades will be unrealistic and you're ok with that.

[AC]

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I would agree.

Furthermore, while 2 mid C's to get 1 high C would almost always be considered fair, the bar is higher the higher the value. So, 2 mid B's for a high B or 2 mid A's for a High A, while perhaps not being rejected automatically, might be more heavily scrutinized.

Yeah, you're right. Diminishing returns takes place.

[Bard]

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I have looked into doing a couple of trades


Cle Sends:
Michael Brantley (a top MLB LF) , Dorssys Paulino (High B Low B)


TB Sends:
Matt Moore (Mid A Mid B)


Sounds Good overall.




Cle Sends:
Justin Masterson (2 High B)


Boston Sends:
Jon Lester (High B Mid B)

Don't understand for either team...


Cle Sends:
Carlos Santana (High B, Mid B, High C) Carlos Carrasco (Mid C) Nick Swisher (Mid B Low B)


Wash Sends:
Jordan Zimmerman (Low A Low B) Drew Storen (Low B) Tyler Cippard (High C High C)



Again, doesn't make much sense at all.

Cle Sends:
Danny Salazar (Low A High B)


STL Sends:
Michael Wacha (Low A Mid B Mid B)


Same as last two.

Cle Sends:
Justin Masterson (High B High B) Jose Ramirez (Mid C) Jesus Aguliar (High C)


CHC Send:
Jeff Smardzija (High B High B Low B)


Forget Masterson, if the Indians add Jeff they want to keep Justin and why would the Cubs want Justin?

Cle Sends:
Danny Salazar (Mid A High B)


CHC Sends:
Javier Baez (Mid A Low B High C)


CLE is competing so why?




Cle Sends:
Justin Masterson (Mid B Mid B)


LAD Sends:
Corey Seager (Mid B Mid B)


Confused on CLE haha

Cle Sends:
Danny Salazar (Mid A High B)


OAK Sends:
Josh Donaldson (Low A Mid B) or Yones Cespedes (Same Value)


CLE is competing then? Haha





I tried to match each others value in deals in equal value or deals like my CLE/STL deal where Salazar is worth 2 players of Mid A-High B value and Wacha is worth 3 players one of Mid A but the other 2 are only Mid B, the 2 Mid B probably equal to a High B.

Like the above said, they might be good value wise but just don't make any sense to me. First one is the only one I would pull the trigger on as of now.

[CBJacketsTribefan]

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A lot of these don't make much sense. Although the values may be close, in general you want a contender matched up with a doormat. The contender will trade prospects and the doormat will trade veterans. Most of these are net neutral vet for vet or prospect for prospect deals, which wouldn't really have a reason to occur. For example, why would the Cubs want Masterson if they don't want Shark?? Why would the Red Sox want Masterson instead of Lester when they signed one and let one go a while back?

It depends on whether you are going for fairness and realism, or if your trades will be unrealistic and you're ok with that.

For the most part the deals are adding pieces the tribe could really need like upside pitching, consistent inning eating vets and power hitting/consistent hitters.

[CBJacketsTribefan]

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Like the above said, they might be good value wise but just don't make any sense to me. First one is the only one I would pull the trigger on as of now.

I don't see how the Wash deal doesn't make sense, outside of adding Swisher but I tried to make the value closer, they have an abundance of pitching and could use Santanas bat at either 1B or C. the Indians could use a guy like Zimmerman and use the BP help.


the Wacha and Salazar deal is just personal preference. some of the deals were also based on other deals happening say Santana-Zimmerman then I move Salazar for Donaldson type deal.

[Bard]

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I don't see how the Wash deal doesn't make sense, outside of adding Swisher but I tried to make the value closer, they have an abundance of pitching and could use Santanas bat at either 1B or C. the Indians could use a guy like Zimmerman and use the BP help.


the Wacha and Salazar deal is just personal preference. some of the deals were also based on other deals happening say Santana-Zimmerman then I move Salazar for Donaldson type deal.

Just me personally, I would never do that deal for the Nationals. They could get more overall and I don't really see the need Swisher but you see that, they really don't need Santana with Ramos and Zimmerman/Adam. Value wise sure, you can do it...it is your chise after all.

[CBJacketsTribefan]

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Just me personally, I would never do that deal for the Nationals. They could get more overall and I don't really see the need Swisher but you see that, they really don't need Santana with Ramos and Zimmerman/Adam. Value wise sure, you can do it...it is your chise after all.

Yeah having Ramos doesn't come anything close to stopping the Nats from getting Santana if possible in a deal

[bwoodring9]

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About to make a trade before the deadline is up. I'll be sending Hamels and Wil Nieves to Texas for Derek Holland, Geovany Soto, Luke Jackson, and Nick Williams. I have to add Holland and Soto in order to make the salary work, although I could replace Holland with either Matt Harrison or Scott Baker. Harrison and Holland are being used out of the bullpen, and Baker is in AAA. I'd prefer to trade for Holland if at all possible.

What do you guys think of this?

Also thinking of moving Jimmy Rollins as he has the all time phillies hits record in my franchise and he has stated irl that he'd be open to a trade if things blew up in Philly now that he has the record. Rollins currently is hitting .245 with 9 HRs and 45 RBI in 380 ABs, he also has 19 steals. What kind of value, if any, can I get for that?

[Bard]

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Yeah having Ramos doesn't come anything close to stopping the Nats from getting Santana if possible in a deal

Don't stop just on that haha, they have tons of depth to not want Swisher or need Santana at OF/1B like you listed. Again I would never do this and it is your chise, if you want to hear go for it just say it yourself or don't read my opinion I am just putting my opinion out there.

[Bard]

Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

About to make a trade before the deadline is up. I'll be sending Hamels and Wil Nieves to Texas for Derek Holland, Geovany Soto, Luke Jackson, and Nick Williams. I have to add Holland and Soto in order to make the salary work, although I could replace Holland with either Matt Harrison or Scott Baker. Harrison and Holland are being used out of the bullpen, and Baker is in AAA. I'd prefer to trade for Holland if at all possible.

What do you guys think of this?

Also thinking of moving Jimmy Rollins as he has the all time phillies hits record in my franchise and he has stated irl that he'd be open to a trade if things blew up in Philly now that he has the record. Rollins currently is hitting .245 with 9 HRs and 45 RBI in 380 ABs, he also has 19 steals. What kind of value, if any, can I get for that?

I feel like you could get one more decent spec back for Hamels or am I just not thinking to highly on Williams?


You could probably get a low B back from Oakland for Jimmy, believe he is from around there and they could slide him or Lowrie over to 2B easily.

[CBJacketsTribefan]

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Don't stop just on that haha, they have tons of depth to not want Swisher or need Santana at OF/1B like you listed. Again I would never do this and it is your chise, if you want to hear go for it just say it yourself or don't read my opinion I am just putting my opinion out there.

Ah so your just trolling , don't watch baseball then? Ramos has a slim advantage on Santana in BA in their careers and that's about it, Santana stats wise has been all around more productive.

[Bard]

Re: MLB 14 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Ah so your just trolling , don't watch baseball then? Ramos has a slim advantage on Santana in BA in their careers and that's about it, Santana stats wise has been all around more productive.

What are you even talking about...? I never brought up anything on stats, I personally would not do THAT deal.


And how am I "trolling", love the internet on that term...and yes I do watch baseball, lots of it

[Matty86]

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Looks like my post got buried. Oh well, I made a bunch of moves, but I'm at the deadline, I traded away a handful of veterans for prospects and guys who may be able to step in next season. But I have two starters I want to unload...

Lackey (6-4 4.89 69K)
Peavy (4-10 3.40 105K)

Not looking for a lot for them obviously, but they're in their last year of contracts and I'm not making the playoffs. Thoughts? I think the sheet values them too high based on what they've done in my 'chise.