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  • QuestGAV
    Rookie
    • Aug 2011
    • 315

    #181
    Re: Starting Pitcher stamina in playoffs

    This is a fairly awful "design decision". I do find it hard to believe it can be defended as a design decision rather than a bug if series without a user team are handled differently.

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    • mrsaito
      Pro
      • Nov 2009
      • 743

      #182
      Re: Starting Pitcher stamina in playoffs

      Perhaps they created this feature for Red Sox fans. The difference between their number 1 and 5 starters is a lot less than most teams, so it eliminates what would otherwise be a disadvantage for the Sox. (sarcasm font)

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      • Fours
        Rookie
        • May 2015
        • 245

        #183
        Re: Starting Pitcher stamina in playoffs

        I've just moved on from franchise mode. There just isn't a way to enjoy it without running head first into brick wall..

        If you play every game and treat it like a single season mode, you'll have fun, get to the playoffs, and then use an 8 man rotation while the simmed CPU is unaffected..

        If you do a long term build, you're flooded with progression problems, every pitcher throwing 98mph, entire rotations rated over 90(or the required massive yearly editing). Budget problems, ridiculous looking generated players, 25 year old rookies etc...

        The crazy thing is that progression was much better in MLB 14, Playoff stamina was fine in MLB 14..

        It's a very bad sign when "features" get added that make the game worse.

        If you want to look at the bright side, if you simmed out to 2025, you would have about 10 90+ rated SP, that'll get you through the playoffs just fine.

        It all makes sense now.

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        • BrianU
          MVP
          • Nov 2008
          • 1565

          #184
          Re: Starting Pitcher stamina in playoffs

          Originally posted by Fours
          I've just moved on from franchise mode. There just isn't a way to enjoy it without running head first into brick wall..

          If you play every game and treat it like a single season mode, you'll have fun, get to the playoffs, and then use an 8 man rotation while the simmed CPU is unaffected..

          If you do a long term build, you're flooded with progression problems, every pitcher throwing 98mph, entire rotations rated over 90(or the required massive yearly editing). Budget problems, ridiculous looking generated players, 25 year old rookies etc...

          The crazy thing is that progression was much better in MLB 14, Playoff stamina was fine in MLB 14..

          It's a very bad sign when "features" get added that make the game worse.

          If you want to look at the bright side, if you simmed out to 2025, you would have about 10 90+ rated SP, that'll get you through the playoffs just fine.

          It all makes sense now.
          It's pretty easy to knock 15 points off drafted SP and CP's potential ratings once a year and doesn't take very long. I agree with the playoff stamina stuff I read but I am sure using sliders and house rules there must be some way to make it work a bit better.

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          • Fours
            Rookie
            • May 2015
            • 245

            #185
            Re: Starting Pitcher stamina in playoffs

            Originally posted by BrianU
            It's pretty easy to knock 15 points off drafted SP and CP's potential ratings once a year and doesn't take very long. I agree with the playoff stamina stuff I read but I am sure using sliders and house rules there must be some way to make it work a bit better.
            It's not just knocking potential down on pitchers.. It's editing almost every single pitcher velocity, and deciding how many, and which guys can keep a 98mph+ fastball.. And then if you care, editing the appearance of the ridiculous looking generated players.

            I've been working around this in several franchises this year, and at some point enough is enough, I just don't have time to fix their game, and still have time to enjoy playing it.

            But yes, I absolutely agree that it's possible to work around the flaws of franchise mode if you're willing.

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            • angels04
              Banned
              • Mar 2004
              • 14

              #186
              Re: Starting Pitcher stamina in playoffs

              24 page thread and the only response we get is that this is supposed to help facilitate a 4 man rotation in the playoffs, lol. It forces us to use a 6 man rotation. I wonder if they ever even tested this because it's obviously broken.

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              • HustlinOwl
                All Star
                • Mar 2004
                • 9713

                #187
                Re: Starting Pitcher stamina in playoffs

                this and 2014 schedule over and over again in online franchise is mind boggling

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                • PittPens1787
                  Rookie
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 225

                  #188
                  Re: Starting Pitcher stamina in playoffs

                  3 months, 4/5 patches in and this is still a postseason-breaking issue.

                  Has anyone had success bumping around sliders to get pitchers to recover stamina in the postseason? Setting the Human starter stamina to 9 hasn't helped me.

                  This is infuriating.
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                  • N51_rob
                    Faceuary!
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 14805

                    #189
                    Re: Starting Pitcher stamina in playoffs

                    Originally posted by PittPens1787
                    3 months, 4/5 patches in and this is still a postseason-breaking issue.



                    Has anyone had success bumping around sliders to get pitchers to recover stamina in the postseason? Setting the Human starter stamina to 9 hasn't helped me.



                    This is infuriating.

                    This won't be patched period. SCEA has already stated this was by design. Just as a friendly FYI.
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                    • kodiak
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                      • Jul 2003
                      • 4288

                      #190
                      Re: Starting Pitcher stamina in playoffs

                      Let me start off by saying I'm not a fan of this design choice and hope they revert back to how it was before for MLB16, but to me, this wasn't as bad as people in here made it seem. Granted, I swept both the ALDS and ALCS, but did go 6 games in the WS. I was able to use Pineda twice, game 2&6, both on full stamina to start the game and I didn't raise starter stamina to 10 either. Pineda threw 82 pitches and 91, obviously throwing more in game 6 because I knew that was his last outing.


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                      • PittPens1787
                        Rookie
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 225

                        #191
                        Re: Starting Pitcher stamina in playoffs

                        Originally posted by N51_rob
                        This won't be patched period. SCEA has already stated this was by design. Just as a friendly FYI.
                        Man... have they explained/defended the decision at all? Or just said that it's by design?

                        I'm currently in Game 5 of the ALCS. Colby Lewis last pitched in the ALDS. He threw 8 innings in that one. He's now on SEVEN (!!!) days of rest and I still can't start him because somehow he is only at ~65% stamina.

                        How did they decide that this is how it should be?
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                        • N51_rob
                          Faceuary!
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 14805

                          #192
                          Re: Starting Pitcher stamina in playoffs

                          Originally posted by PittPens1787
                          Man... have they explained/defended the decision at all? Or just said that it's by design?



                          I'm currently in Game 5 of the ALCS. Colby Lewis last pitched in the ALDS. He threw 8 innings in that one. He's now on SEVEN (!!!) days of rest and I still can't start him because somehow he is only at ~65% stamina.



                          How did they decide that this is how it should be?


                          Originally posted by Russell_SCEA
                          Not a bug this was changed to help facilitate 4 man rotations and the fact that your SP have all just pitched all those innings throughout the season.

                          Yes. Russell has explained the how and why.
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                          • redsox4evur
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                            • Jul 2013
                            • 18169

                            #193
                            Re: Starting Pitcher stamina in playoffs

                            I just read this whole thread and wanted to bring something up. I haven't got 15 yet because I am still on the PS3. But I am running a franchise with sookiebunny's (sp?) 2015 rosters. And I am noticing this issue in April, never mind the playoffs. I am using the Red Sox so that maybe the issue, that their stamina isn't high enough. But I use my starters and they usually go 7 innings or so depending on pitch count and performance. And they get their full rest and most of the time they only have 85% of their stamina when they come into their next start. So I think this may have been an issue in 14 as well.
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                            • HozAndMoose
                              MVP
                              • Mar 2013
                              • 3614

                              #194
                              Re: Starting Pitcher stamina in playoffs

                              Originally posted by redsox4evur
                              I just read this whole thread and wanted to bring something up. I haven't got 15 yet because I am still on the PS3. But I am running a franchise with sookiebunny's (sp?) 2015 rosters. And I am noticing this issue in April, never mind the playoffs. I am using the Red Sox so that maybe the issue, that their stamina isn't high enough. But I use my starters and they usually go 7 innings or so depending on pitch count and performance. And they get their full rest and most of the time they only have 85% of their stamina when they come into their next start. So I think this may have been an issue in 14 as well.


                              Wasn't an issue like this for sure. I had my fair share of playoff games last year and was always able to go with a 4 man rotation. That was ps4 version so it could have been messed up on ps3.

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                              • PittPens1787
                                Rookie
                                • Jan 2011
                                • 225

                                #195
                                Re: Starting Pitcher stamina in playoffs

                                Originally posted by N51_rob
                                Yes. Russell has explained the how and why.
                                I'm understanding the "why" part. I like the idea of letting us use a 4 man rotation in the postseason, but I'm missing the "how" making pitchers recover much more slowly actually helps do that. It helps the opposite - it forces you to use a 5/6 man rotation.
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