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  • Bobhead
    Pro
    • Mar 2011
    • 4926

    #106
    Re: Starting Pitcher stamina in playoffs

    Originally posted by Fours
    They deleted the bug report, again..

    To refuse to address the issue is one thing, but to sweep it under the rug is arrogant and insulting.

    I guess they've decided that they're right regardless of what their customers are saying.
    Deleting the bug report could also mean they are already working on a change or improvement to the system. They've deleted bug reports in the past immediately before upcoming fixes.

    I'm not saying you're wrong... truthfully I am inclined to lean towards your theory... I'm just pointing out that it isn't the only possibility.

    And I am not going to lie... I am quite disappointed by all of this, both the absurdity and consequence of the issue itself, and the response (or lack thereof). The entire reason I bought this year's game was to enjoy the playoffs that I worked all last year to get to. Since my team (the Mets) is entirely built and dependent on starting pitching, the bug obviously had a serious influence on my ability to compete. If I knew this issue existed, I wouldn't have bought this year's game or a PS4 at all, and I will definitely be thinking about this whole experience next March when it comes time to for The Show '16.
    Last edited by Bobhead; 05-26-2015, 08:23 PM.

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    • Fours
      Rookie
      • May 2015
      • 245

      #107
      Re: Starting Pitcher stamina in playoffs

      Originally posted by Bobhead
      Deleting the bug report could also mean they are already working on a change or improvement to the system. They've deleted bug reports in the past immediately before upcoming fixes.

      I'm not saying you're wrong... truthfully I am inclined to lean towards your theory... I'm just pointing out that it isn't the only possibility.

      And I am not going to lie... I am quite disappointed by all of this, both the absurdity and consequence of the issue itself, and the response (or lack thereof). The entire reason I bought this year's game was to enjoy the playoffs that I worked all last year to get to. Since my team (the Mets) is entirely built and dependent on starting pitching, the bug obviously had a serious influence on my ability to compete. If I knew this issue existed, I wouldn't have bought this year's game or a PS4 at all, and I will definitely be thinking about this whole experience next March when it comes time to for The Show '16.
      From what I've seen, a bug report with change status to "In progress" or something like that. Plus the fact that they deleted the previous report on this subject without fixing it..

      At the very least they should realize that nobody is happy with this feature, and they should warn customers entering the playoffs that this new "feature" will require a change in strategy, sliders, or other workarounds.

      A change like this to stamina for the sake of enforcing realistic statistics on the user is so beyond making sense when at the same time you can edit players and sliders to throw 35 perfect games, or slug 350 HR's in a season if you wanted to..

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      • PadreFan84
        Rookie
        • Jul 2014
        • 80

        #108
        Re: Starting Pitcher stamina in playoffs

        Sorry late to the party, is the issue with CPU pitchers as well or strictly USER?


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        • bcruise
          Hall Of Fame
          • Mar 2004
          • 23274

          #109
          Re: Starting Pitcher stamina in playoffs

          Originally posted by Fours
          They deleted the bug report, again..

          To refuse to address the issue is one thing, but to sweep it under the rug is arrogant and insulting.

          I guess they've decided that they're right regardless of what their customers are saying.
          Have you looked to see if there's a report on the topic already? They close/delete duplicates.

          Also, you might have better luck using the "suggestion" category rather than bug, since Ramone has already said this is done by design. If you disagree with that design, suggestion is the way to go.

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          Last edited by bcruise; 05-26-2015, 09:35 PM.

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          • MetsRampage
            Rookie
            • Sep 2010
            • 69

            #110
            Re: Starting Pitcher stamina in playoffs

            If this is something that was implemented by the developers than it isn't a bug and reporting it as one won't help. We should all just keep voicing our displeasure in this thread. I'm sure once more people start reaching the postseason they will voice their displeasure too.

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            • Fours
              Rookie
              • May 2015
              • 245

              #111
              Re: Starting Pitcher stamina in playoffs

              Originally posted by PadreFan84
              Sorry late to the party, is the issue with CPU pitchers as well or strictly USER?
              Strictly user. The CPU will use a 4 man playoff rotations and have full stamina starters on 3 or 4 days rest. Your starters will need 7 or 8 days rest to fill the stamina bar.

              In the test I just ran, I was able to use my ace twice in the first round, Games 1 and 5, 5 days rest. Then only once in the League finals, Game 4 on 5 days rest(stamina bar at about 85%). Series ends game 6.

              In the world series:
              Game 1 after 6 days rest(90% stamina) 4.1 innings.
              Game 4 on 3 days rest (50% stamina) 5 IP
              *CPU rested their ace for 6 days, he sat at 100% stamina for 2 games before pitching game 6.
              Game 7 on 3 days rest(40% stamina) 5.2IP

              In the world series I was only able to use 1 top 4 pitcher at 100 stamina, and he was on 8 days rest. Every other game was pitched by a tired pitcher vs a CPU pitcher at full stamina.

              Some "Feature", huh?

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              • geisterhome
                MVP
                • Sep 2011
                • 2101

                #112
                Re: Starting Pitcher stamina in playoffs

                Originally posted by Fours
                A change like this to stamina for the sake of enforcing realistic statistics on the user is so beyond making sense when at the same time you can edit players and sliders to throw 35 perfect games, or slug 350 HR's in a season if you wanted to..
                So true! makes this explanation even look more ridiculous:

                Originally posted by Russell_SCEA
                Not a bug this was changed to help facilitate 4 man rotations and the fact that your SP have all just pitched all those innings throughout the season.
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                • Smooth Pancakes
                  MVP
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 1641

                  #113
                  Re: Starting Pitcher stamina in playoffs

                  I'm still trying to figure out how the hell it "facilitates 4 man rotations" when the user is practically forced to use 6 or 7 man rotations just to get their starters back to 100% stamina for their next game!

                  And then the fact that the CPU regains 100% stamina just like normal while the USER pitchers regain stamina like molasses, based on Fours test run, well that just chaps my ***.

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                  • yinhn
                    Just started!
                    • May 2015
                    • 4

                    #114
                    Re: Starting Pitcher stamina in playoffs

                    Please submit a bug report for this, I'd hate to see this not get fixed in a patch.

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                    • NDAlum
                      ND
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 11453

                      #115
                      Re: Starting Pitcher stamina in playoffs

                      It is likely being deleted because it isn't a bug or glitch. It's a game play design.

                      I'm sure they took notice of the posts in here. I can't fathom why it wouldn't change moving forward to meet in the middle. Will it change this cycle: I'm guessing no.


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                      • Fours
                        Rookie
                        • May 2015
                        • 245

                        #116
                        Re: Starting Pitcher stamina in playoffs

                        Originally posted by NDAlum
                        It is likely being deleted because it isn't a bug or glitch. It's a game play design.

                        I'm sure they took notice of the posts in here. I can't fathom why it wouldn't change moving forward to meet in the middle. Will it change this cycle: I'm guessing no.


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                        I agree, it won't be fixed this year.

                        Since I play 90% franchise mode, I'm doing one where I'll play every game and stop at the playoffs and wait until next year to play them.

                        Or, I might use the V2 rosters and start a new one, a rebuild that won't make the playoffs for a few years.

                        That's putting a lot of undeserved hope into year to year saves.. I hope turning off GM contracts carries over, and players don't disappear/go generic. And of course it's a roll of the dice on any new feature-bugs they dream up.

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                        • Bobhead
                          Pro
                          • Mar 2011
                          • 4926

                          #117
                          Re: Starting Pitcher stamina in playoffs

                          Originally posted by Fours
                          I agree, it won't be fixed this year.

                          Since I play 90% franchise mode, I'm doing one where I'll play every game and stop at the playoffs and wait until next year to play them.

                          Or, I might use the V2 rosters and start a new one, a rebuild that won't make the playoffs for a few years.

                          That's putting a lot of undeserved hope into year to year saves.. I hope turning off GM contracts carries over, and players don't disappear/go generic. And of course it's a roll of the dice on any new feature-bugs they dream up.
                          I've thought about going back to last year's game. I had my beefs with that game... but as someone else said above, without the playoffs functioning properly, the whole game feels like a waste.

                          "Was this fixed" will definitely be the first thing I ask next year. I won't buy '16 without a yes.

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                          • KingV2k3
                            Senior Circuit
                            • May 2003
                            • 5881

                            #118
                            Re: Starting Pitcher stamina in playoffs

                            Does turning Post Season Starter Stamina up to 10 (for instance) provide a workaround for the time being?

                            If so, would have to be for HUM / CPU / Both?

                            Thanks.

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                            • Fours
                              Rookie
                              • May 2015
                              • 245

                              #119
                              Re: Starting Pitcher stamina in playoffs

                              Originally posted by KingV2k3
                              Does turning Post Season Starter Stamina up to 10 (for instance) provide a workaround for the time being?

                              If so, would have to be for HUM / CPU / Both?

                              Thanks.
                              If I really wanted to play the playoffs and needed a workaround I would set human starter stamina to max and enforce pitch counts. It's not perfect because I'll get to 100 pitches and still be fresh, but it's all I can think of.

                              I'm also just assuming that it would work, and it might have to be done for relievers as well, I'm not sure.

                              You definitely don't have to adjust CPU stamina, there is no playoff effect on their staff, which makes Ramones logic that pitchers are tired after a long season very questionable.

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                              • HozAndMoose
                                MVP
                                • Mar 2013
                                • 3614

                                #120
                                Re: Starting Pitcher stamina in playoffs

                                Originally posted by Fours
                                If I really wanted to play the playoffs and needed a workaround I would set human starter stamina to max and enforce pitch counts. It's not perfect because I'll get to 100 pitches and still be fresh, but it's all I can think of.

                                I'm also just assuming that it would work, and it might have to be done for relievers as well, I'm not sure.

                                You definitely don't have to adjust CPU stamina, there is no playoff effect on their staff, which makes Ramones logic that pitchers are tired after a long season very questionable.
                                Wrong there is an effect on the CPU starters.

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