Starting Pitcher stamina in playoffs

[Fours]

Re: Starting Pitcher stamina in playoffs

Wrong there is an effect on the CPU starters.

Want to elaborate on that?

In the test I ran last night the CPU always had at least 2 or 3 starters full stamina when I had 1 or zero. The CPU never had a starter still tired after 4 days rest.

Tracking day to day, there was an unmistakable difference in stamina regained per day comparing all CPU pitchers to User pitchers.

There was not a single game in the 18 playoff games that the CPU didn't field a pitcher with full stamina. When I forced a 4 man rotation, I started with full stamina 9 times. (4 of them being the first 4 playoff games, then 5 times in the next 14 games).

[HozAndMoose]

Re: Starting Pitcher stamina in playoffs

Want to elaborate on that?

In the test I ran last night the CPU always had at least 2 or 3 starters full stamina when I had 1 or zero. The CPU never had a starter still tired after 4 days rest.

Tracking day to day, there was an unmistakable difference in stamina regained per day comparing all CPU pitchers to User pitchers.

There was not a single game in the 18 playoff games that the CPU didn't field a pitcher with full stamina. When I forced a 4 man rotation, I started with full stamina 9 times. (4 of them being the first 4 playoff games, then 5 times in the next 14 games).

Was that simming or playing every game? When playing every game the CPU loses and gains stamina at the same rate as the user.

[geisterhome]

Re: Starting Pitcher stamina in playoffs

I'm still trying to figure out how the hell it "facilitates 4 man rotations" when the user is practically forced to use 6 or 7 man rotations just to get their starters back to 100% stamina for their next game!

This. Doesn't let me sleep at night, lol.

Was that simming or playing every game? When playing every game the CPU loses and gains stamina at the same rate as the user.

Shouldn't make a difference.

[N51_rob]

Re: Starting Pitcher stamina in playoffs

I agree, it won't be fixed this year.

Since I play 90% franchise mode, I'm doing one where I'll play every game and stop at the playoffs and wait until next year to play them.

Or, I might use the V2 rosters and start a new one, a rebuild that won't make the playoffs for a few years.

That's putting a lot of undeserved hope into year to year saves.. I hope turning off GM contracts carries over, and players don't disappear/go generic. And of course it's a roll of the dice on any new feature-bugs they dream up.

This will happen, if a player is no longer in the MLBPA, then when your Y2Y carries over you will have generic players.

[KingV2k3]

Re: Starting Pitcher stamina in playoffs

Shouldn't make a difference.

I agree it shouldn't but it appears to...

The starters who's games I simmed recovered at a rate similar (but not the same) as regular season and the starters from played games recovered at a shockingly sloooooow rate...

Like many, I'm fishing for a workaround, but it SEEMS to me that:

1) Played games are VERY different than simmed ones with regard to recovery

2) The CPU recovers slightly faster than HUM

3) Starters 1 and 2 recover faster than 3 and 4

It's kind of a mess, so I'm at a loss as to how to test / fix...

[Smooth Pancakes]

Re: Starting Pitcher stamina in playoffs

Was that simming or playing every game? When playing every game the CPU loses and gains stamina at the same rate as the user.

Even if that is the case, it still doesn't fix the problem. Who is going to play every CPU game in the playoffs just to make sure they get equally screwed by this stamina issue?

I barely have enough time to play my own games. I definitely don't have enough time nor the desire to play an extra 26-48 games to play every single game, user and CPU, of the entire playoffs just to make sure the CPU suffers along with me when it comes to starter stamina.

But yet, if I sim every CPU game, I get screwed and end up at a serious disadvantage to the CPU in terms of stamina. Either way I end up screwed. All this to "facilitate the use of 4 man rotations", which still utterly baffles me because it only facilitates 4 man rotations for the CPU. It facilitates 6-7 man rotations for the user.

[Don Jon]

Re: Starting Pitcher stamina in playoffs

Ok so if I understand this correctly then this is only a USER problem, and the CPU pitchers are unaffected

That leads me to this question, if I use 30 team control, is there a way that I could play the playoffs as entirely cpu, and this not be an issue?

[HozAndMoose]

Re: Starting Pitcher stamina in playoffs

Even if that is the case, it still doesn't fix the problem. Who is going to play every CPU game in the playoffs just to make sure they get equally screwed by this stamina issue?

I barely have enough time to play my own games. I definitely don't have enough time nor the desire to play an extra 26-48 games to play every single game, user and CPU, of the entire playoffs just to make sure the CPU suffers along with me when it comes to starter stamina.

But yet, if I sim every CPU game, I get screwed and end up at a serious disadvantage to the CPU in terms of stamina. Either way I end up screwed. All this to "facilitate the use of 4 man rotations", which still utterly baffles me because it only facilitates 4 man rotations for the CPU. It facilitates 6-7 man rotations for the user.

I never told anyone to play every single playoff game. He said you didnt have to do anything to CPU stamina cause the issue doesnt effect them. That was wrong. If you play your playoff games the CPU pitchers you face will reciover just like yours so you need to raise the CPU stamina slider as well.

[Fours]

Re: Starting Pitcher stamina in playoffs

Was that simming or playing every game? When playing every game the CPU loses and gains stamina at the same rate as the user.

If you have to ask this question, you haven't been following this thread and shouldn't be making definitive statements.

When playing every game, the CPU and User SP's do not recover at an equal rate.

[HozAndMoose]

Re: Starting Pitcher stamina in playoffs

If you have to ask this question, you haven't been following this thread and shouldn't be making definitive statements.

When playing every game, the CPU and User SP's do not recover at an equal rate.

How are you going to tell me what i have been seeing? I was talking about this issue before you were.

[Fours]

Re: Starting Pitcher stamina in playoffs

This will happen, if a player is no longer in the MLBPA, then when your Y2Y carries over you will have generic players.

I understand the issue, but it's not just whether they're in the MLBPA, it's whether they're included in the default rosters. An example is Casey Kelly, he's been a MLBPA member since 2012, but was generic in Y2Y transfers because he wasn't included in stock rosters.

For retired players, they just can't be included and everyone understands that, but there were too many other issues that made the value of Y2Y saves questionable such as being locked out of editing, and forced into GM contracts. There might be more issues than that, I wouldn't know because I abandoned my Y2Y franchise.

[Knight165]

Re: Starting Pitcher stamina in playoffs

I understand the issue, but it's not just whether they're in the MLBPA, it's whether they're included in the default rosters. An example is Casey Kelly, he's been a MLBPA member since 2012, but was generic in Y2Y transfers because he wasn't included in stock rosters.

For retired players, they just can't be included and everyone understands that, but there were too many other issues that made the value of Y2Y saves questionable such as being locked out of editing, and forced into GM contracts. There might be more issues than that, I wouldn't know because I abandoned my Y2Y franchise.

Casey Kelly that was on the Padres?

M.K.
Knight165

[Smooth Pancakes]

Re: Starting Pitcher stamina in playoffs

I never told anyone to play every single playoff game. He said you didnt have to do anything to CPU stamina cause the issue doesnt effect them. That was wrong. If you play your playoff games the CPU pitchers you face will reciover just like yours so you need to raise the CPU stamina slider as well.

True, on all accounts there. But I'm looking at the entire playoffs. While the CPU may suffer the same problem in your series, the other CPU pitchers are all recovering at a normal rate. So when you get to the Championship Series or World Series, you're still gonna be up the creek because their pitchers will be full rested going into the series while yours will he tired.

That's where I was going with the playing every game of the entire playoffs comment. Because each round you advance, you're still going to be under a disadvantage if you play your games while all the other CPU games get simmed.

[HozAndMoose]

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True, on all accounts there. But I'm looking at the entire playoffs. While the CPU may suffer the same problem in your series, the other CPU pitchers are all recovering at a normal rate. So when you get to the Championship Series or World Series, you're still gonna be up the creek because their pitchers will be full rested going into the series while yours will he tired.

That's where I was going with the playing every game of the entire playoffs comment. Because each round you advance, you're still going to be under a disadvantage if you play your games while all the other CPU games get simmed.

The CPU pitchers recover the same as human pitchers. But the CPU doesnt lose as much stamina when simming compared to playing so they dont have to recover as much.

I was strictly talking about the CPU when you are playing against them for that series. Not what the other CPU teams are doing when they play each other.

[NDAlum]

Re: Starting Pitcher stamina in playoffs

This will happen, if a player is no longer in the MLBPA, then when your Y2Y carries over you will have generic players.

That's understandable but the injured guys who were eliminated like Kris Medlen need to not go missing again.