With all they've tweaked with gameplay, there's still so much more they didn't...

[Heroesandvillains]

Re: With all they've tweaked with gameplay, there's still so much more they didn't...

You guys want an example of a complete asinine comeback? You want one? I got one for you right now. Was just playing opening day, Yankees (me) vs. Blue Jays (Hall of Fame everything). It was 3-1 Blue Jays heading into the bottom of the 8th inning. Dickey was hurling a gem, couldn't do anything against him. Then this happened:

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I wasn't hitting him all game. I was down 3-1, two outs, bottom 8. Ellsbury triple. Gardner single. 3-2. Gardner steal. ARod up. Opposite field home run, no doubter. All of a sudden I'm up 4-3. Wow. This is just an example of the comebacks can work FOR the user as well. Comebacks are RIDICULOUS in this game, for the user AND the cpu. BUT WAIT! I'm not finished, friends. We're in the Top of the 9th now and I bring in my closer, Andrew Miller, rated an 89 in the game.

First batter is Valencia:

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Leadoff single right back through the box. Ok, these things happen. I'll try to bear down.

Next batter is Reyes.

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He lays down a sac bunt. BUT WAIT! I try to get off the mound with Miller, but for some odd reason, I can't. The momentum of the pitch somehow drags me to the left, so by the time he recuperates FROM A PITCH, Reyes beats it out for a convenient infield single. First and second, no out. Here we go.

Next batter lays down a perfect sac bunt, but I get him at first. Second and third, one out. I intentionally walk Bautista to bring up Encarnacion. I bring in Betances who was working up in the bullpen this whole time and to get the righty vs. righty match, as if it means anything. And like clockwork:

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So the score is 3-1 Jays bottom 8. Yankees score 3 on a triple, single, steal, home run to take the lead 4-3. Top 9, I bring in my closer and he proceeds to casually give up a single, a bunt single in which he literally was FORCED to not get off the bunt, resulting in a sac bunt single. And then the two run single to take the lead. And what happened after the two rung single? Strike out and pop out. Of course. Damage down. No more required.

You wanted an example, you got one. And this was a BLATANT example of it. I'm sorry for my condescending tone, but as you can imagine, I am honestly disgusted with game at this point.

Just to add to some of the other responses here, was Miller (being a lefty) your best option for pitching to Valencia with Reyes on deck? I don't know Valencia's ratings against righties or lefties but my first thought was that you should have had a righty on the mound to begin with to better your chances.

A lead off single in a one run game late can lead to destruction.

Also, on the bunt. I saw literally no lag at all on Miller trying to field the ball. None whatsoever. Why do you feel like you were held back?

Miller probably has a poor reaction rating too. Not that any pitcher really could have got him at first anyway. I would have had my third baseman in. Basically, Reyes would be tough to double up any way so you would have been better off giving up the third base line and conceding the double play in order to defend the bunt better.

I realize hindsight is 20/20 but some of your game plan in these videos is a little suspect. Wouldn't you agree you could have managed this better?

[Knight165]

Re: With all they've tweaked with gameplay, there's still so much more they didn't...

Just the flip side.
Just managed this franchise game.....
Mets down 5-2 going into the ninth....Grilli comes in.....up there in the league in saves.....no brainer for Pitt, right?
I manage the Mets....(Danny Dunn is Adam Dunn from a carry over save)

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......ahhh.....

....I had you right?!

It's not unstoppable.......anything can happen.....IRL....and in The Show.
Sometimes it goes your way...sometimes against.

M.K.
Knight165

[Padgoi]

Re: With all they've tweaked with gameplay, there's still so much more they didn't...

Just to add to some of the other responses here, was Miller (being a lefty) your best option for pitching to Valencia with Reyes on deck? I don't know Valencia's ratings against righties or lefties but my first thought was that you should have had a righty on the mound to begin with to better your chances.



A lead off single in a one run game late can lead to destruction.



Also, on the bunt. I saw literally no lag at all on Miller trying to field the ball. None whatsoever. Why do you feel like you were held back?



Miller probably has a poor reaction rating too. Not that any pitcher really could have got him at first anyway. I would have had my third baseman in. Basically, Reyes would be tough to double up any way so you would have been better off giving up the third base line and conceding the double play in order to defend the bunt better.



I realize hindsight is 20/20 but some of your game plan in these videos is a little suspect. Wouldn't you agree you could have managed this better?

I was playing. You weren't. I was held back. Could it have been from Miller being a poor fielder? Absolutely. Come to think of it, it probably was.

[Heroesandvillains]

Re: With all they've tweaked with gameplay, there's still so much more they didn't...

I was playing. You weren't. I was held back. Could it have been from Miller being a poor fielder? Absolutely. Come to think of it, it probably was.

Ok P.A.D.

This is where I'll gladly bow out of interacting with you on the subject. You answered none of my very polite and reasonable questions and then implied (rudely) that I don't have two eyes that could watch your video(s) and see that there was no hitch or holdup in Miller's animation in trying to field the ball. It all looked very fluid.

Good luck man. I hope you find what you're looking for with the game.

[Padgoi]

Re: With all they've tweaked with gameplay, there's still so much more they didn't...

Ok P.A.D.



This is where I'll gladly bow out of interacting with you on the subject. You answered none of my very polite and reasonable questions and then implied (rudely) that I don't have two eyes that could watch your video(s) and see that there was no hitch or holdup in Miller's animation in trying to field the ball. It all looked very fluid.



Good luck man. I hope you find what you're looking for with the game.

I was simply explaining that there definitely was a hitch, but that it was probably due to Miller's poor fielding rating. I didn't insult you in any way.

[Steven78]

Re: With all they've tweaked with gameplay, there's still so much more they didn't...

This became a conspiracy theory post some pages back. Don't trust it, question everything lol.

[kehlis]

Re: With all they've tweaked with gameplay, there's still so much more they didn't...

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Just going to snip the post since it's been quoted several times.



I appreciate your willingness to post the video's so just wanted to offer some thought's all across the board.

First, I do agree there is an issue with animations of the mound and has been for awhile. So I can understand your argument with not fielding the bunt.

However, the defenses that have been made in this thread for that delay ARE correct as well and maybe if that's a way the game masks rating's I'm okay with it. The only reason I bring it up is because I've seen that animation in the first inning, since that isn't something that only happens in the ninth inning, it can't be tied into any rubberbanding.


For the rest of the video though I don't see how you showing us one pitch could be much of an indication of anything? The triple you hit looked to be a very hittable pitch up in the zone, the single to get him in seemed inside but hittable, and the homerun looked to be in a spot that Rodriguez has historically hit very well. Without seeing the full at bat's it's really hard for anyone to come to an agreement with your claim based on one pitch in an at bat.

As to what the CPU did, obviously the single was legitimate and I've agreed with your argument about the animation on the bunt play. I think everyone could agree there could be some work done to the bunting but that has nothing to do with comeback as that is not a ninth issue, but a game long issue.

But again, just seeing one pitch of your at bat's after that doesn't give us much to go on nor does it prove any comeback since that pitch looked to be very hittable as well.

Just a few observations. I'm willing to have an open dialogue, there is just nothing in those video's that screams comeback by either you or the CPU to be honest.

[Knight165]

Re: With all they've tweaked with gameplay, there's still so much more they didn't...

Without quoting your entire post kehlis....
I agree......and yes...if this talk was about cleaning up and adding in animations I don't think there would be much "arguing" about it. I think SCEA themselves continue to say(and show by adding/cleaning) that they are always working on animations for the game.

M.K.
Knight165

[kehlis]

Re: With all they've tweaked with gameplay, there's still so much more they didn't...

Without quoting your entire post kehlis....
I agree......and yes...if this talk was about cleaning up and adding in animations I don't think there would be much "arguing" about it. I think SCEA themselves continue to say(and show by adding/cleaning) that they are always working on animations for the game.

M.K.
Knight165

Yea, thanks for pointing that out. Before typing out long posts like that I tend to recite cliff notes to myself ahead of time and that was something I meant to include.

I know they've said there are areas where that could be improved.

I actually brought that up for the main point of showing that an animation issue actually does the exact opposite of showing any sort of comeback since it could happen in the first inning or the ninth. Just far more likely to see small ball in late innings than in early innings giving the the placebo to some that it is some sore of "comeback code."

[Millennium]

Re: With all they've tweaked with gameplay, there's still so much more they didn't...

This became a conspiracy theory post some pages back. Don't trust it, question everything lol.

Uncalled for. Absolutely uncalled for. We are trying to educate in this thread, and you come in with sarcasm and snark.

We as a site are better than this.

[bkrich83]

Re: With all they've tweaked with gameplay, there's still so much more they didn't...

Mill asked us to post example and when we do were ridiculed and ganged up on.
?

Where were you ridiculed or ganged up on?

[Padgoi]

Re: With all they've tweaked with gameplay, there's still so much more they didn't...

Where were you ridiculed or ganged up on?

Why don't you stop trying to incite nonsense and actually stick to discussing the topic.

[bkrich83]

Re: With all they've tweaked with gameplay, there's still so much more they didn't...

Why don't you stop trying to incite nonsense and actually stick to discussing the topic.

You said you were ridiculed and ganged up on. I merely asked where. Not sure how that's inciting anything. I also think I got my answer. Carry on.

[bkrich83]

Re: With all they've tweaked with gameplay, there's still so much more they didn't...

Without quoting your entire post kehlis....
I agree......and yes...if this talk was about cleaning up and adding in animations I don't think there would be much "arguing" about it. I think SCEA themselves continue to say(and show by adding/cleaning) that they are always working on animations for the game.

M.K.
Knight165

I think that's a safe bet. Some of the animations and momentum particularly when fielding are wonky and lead to odd plays.

[Padgoi]

Re: With all they've tweaked with gameplay, there's still so much more they didn't...

You said you were ridiculed and ganged up on? I merely asked where? Not sure how that's inciting anything. I also think I got my answer. Carry on.

Instead of focusing on the actual subject of the thread, you instead decided to focus on asking me a loaded question. That's how it incited something.

Anyway, thanks for all the help fellas. Clearly I just need to step my game up in the late innings of higher difficulty games.