Online Franchise

[Rifle_Man81]

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honestly its the same reason why the NHL series took out GM Connected. because just not enough people play it. so why would they commit resources to it.

yes it sucks big time for the folks who do play the mode but its a business and from the business stand point, it just makes perfect sense to focus on the modes majority of your playerbase plays.

GM connected wasn't even in the same era as the other modes in its own game. It was an amazing concept. You could have multiple users on multiple teams in one league. But it ended up being a text based mess where you played 3 to 5 games between 15 minute league wide sims. You couldn't pay people to play that mode the way it was implemented.

[eric7064]

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GM connected wasn't even in the same era as the other modes in its own game. It was an amazing concept. You could have multiple users on multiple teams in one league. But it ended up being a text based mess where you played 3 to 5 games between 15 minute league wide sims. You couldn't pay people to play that mode the way it was implemented.

Not to mention it took a literal 30 seconds each time you wanted to scroll down to see anything in GM Connected.

[steelerfan]

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If Online Franchise was fixed, had all the features of offline and offered the same experience as offline maybe more than 45k would play it.

If you don't update it or fix it, of course no one will play it. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy and it's the exact same thing EA says about GM Connected which they continue to leave out of NHL.

Instead of "no one plays it so we won't fix it" have they ever thought that "no one plays it because we won't fix it"?

[eric7064]

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If Online Franchise was fixed, had all the features of offline and offered the same experience as offline maybe more than 45k would play it.

If you don't update it or fix it, of course no one will play it. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy and it's the exact same thing EA says about GM Connected which they continue to leave out of NHL.

Instead of "no one plays it so we won't fix it" have they ever thought that "no one plays it because we won't fix it"?

Couldn't have said it better myself. Like someone else mentioned. Instead of two totally separate modes, just do it like madden.

[Houston]

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From my experience they update the online league very 3 years. They said online was better since using only FAST PLAY and not many bother playing online franchise, but I half to respectfully disagree it might not be 450000k or whatever but enough die hard online guys commit and buy this game each year for this mode only usually. Again I think enough online guys play the mode and appreciate SCEA just as much as any other user who enjoys offline franchise. We deserve some attention in a mode we enjoy over all the other top modes SCEA claims are more important. I myself was stuck on 2k for many years and that game was just awful as far as graphics, servers at time but the gameplay online was pretty darn good , but my point is I figure a lot of guys that were on xbox for years like myself made the move and got a PS4 to play the SHOW only in most cases and trust me when I say this 2k baseball had tons and tons of league guys who played it all year long and every single year since 2007 that I know off. My point is there is a great community of online guys who actually enjoy playing in leagues online vs another user instead of the CPU where stats are calculated, u have standings where the games count and matter vs a regular rank match where once the games done and thats if u complete a rank match the stats are done are no standings or milestones really.

Just my $.02!! What do i know? I been running online leagues since 2007 2 complete systems, 2 different type games and programmers but at the end of the day its still baseball and there's a FUN factor in online leagues. If u get the right people and you become great competitors, friends and like a small family it is so much fun to be in a part of 8 guys talking about the stats, standings, trades or even the draft. You got die hard madden guys out there that enjoy all of this and do the same and well for me I am a 365 day a year BASEBALL FAN. I love baseball and have grown fond of MLB THE SHOW. I know there are many many other guys out there that are like me and pretty much buy this game to play in online leagues some of those same guys are coming from the MLB 2K days.

[CrimsionXBL]

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It still boggles my mind that their improvements to this mode were "online stability and score post corrections" which seems like something that would benefit all online modes (H2H - DD) and not just Online Franchise.

I'm in the mindset where I can barely play a franchise mode without it being online and having my friends involved in one way or another. MLB 14 was fine with OF seeing as the difference between online and offline were minimal, the same can be said for MLB 15.

The bottom line here is their reasoning as why they did not touch it, it's a numbers game and if that's the route they're going down, it doesn't sound good for us OF guys... I mean my 2 buddies and I have been avid OF'ers for the past 2 seasons, finally the game becomes stable online, making OF a PLAYABLE mode, and they then have die hard OFers like myself turning my back and moving to offline with all the additions... shrinking the numbers of OF players even more, giving them more of a reason to leave it untouched.

[eric7064]

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It still boggles my mind that their improvements to this mode were "online stability and score post corrections" which seems like something that would benefit all online modes (H2H - DD) and not just Online Franchise.

I'm in the mindset where I can barely play a franchise mode without it being online and having my friends involved in one way or another. MLB 14 was fine with OF seeing as the difference between online and offline were minimal, the same can be said for MLB 15.

The bottom line here is their reasoning as why they did not touch it, it's a numbers game and if that's the route they're going down, it doesn't sound good for us OF guys... I mean my 2 buddies and I have been avid OF'ers for the past 2 seasons, finally the game becomes stable online, making OF a PLAYABLE mode, and they then have die hard OFers like myself turning my back and moving to offline with all the additions... shrinking the numbers of OF players even more, giving them more of a reason to leave it untouched.

Exactly. That's why I'd like word on of this is going to be apart of there future plans.

[brutx15]

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For such a small amount of people that play OF, the thread sure is getting a lot of hits. Is everyone that plays OF on OS? That is how it makes them sound.

I for one will not be buying the game for the 2nd straight year now because of this. After I bought it every year since the PS2 days. Like someone mentioned on a previous page. 90% of my time was spent in OF as well, and we had to just quit our OF after about a month back in 14 because it was so horribly made and bug filled.

Oh well. I guess my only baseball kick will be from fantasy sports again this year.

[eric7064]

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For such a small amount of people that play OF, the thread sure is getting a lot of hits. Is everyone that plays OF on OS? That is how it makes them sound.

I for one will not be buying the game for the 2nd straight year now because of this. After I bought it every year since the PS2 days. Like someone mentioned on a previous page. 90% of my time was spent in OF as well, and we had to just quit our OF after about a month back in 14 because it was so horribly made and bug filled.

Oh well. I guess my only baseball kick will be from fantasy sports again this year.

Right, and I'm not even apart of a big league. I simple just want to be in the same franchise with 2-3 friends. Battling it out in the same division. Smack talking. Looking at whos doing good for them or bad, looking at stats around the league together, making some trades. Hoping they don't draft the guy Ive been scouting all year. You don't get that offline, its a personal experience. But there is nothing more fun then sharing the same Franchise universe with a couple buddies and battling it out.

My franchise we usually play 1 game a series which equates to about 50+ games a year. And there were a few instances where 2 users met in the one game playoff. It was intense, they would stream it and I would watch all the hard work that season come down to one game. It was awesome.

[Syce]

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Right, and I'm not even apart of a big league. I simple just want to be in the same franchise with 2-3 friends. Battling it out in the same division. Smack talking. Looking at whos doing good for them or bad, looking at stats around the league together, making some trades. Hoping they don't draft the guy Ive been scouting all year. You don't get that offline, its a personal experience. But there is nothing more fun then sharing the same Franchise universe with a couple buddies and battling it out.

My franchise we usually play 1 game a series which equates to about 50+ games a year. And there were a few instances where 2 users met in the one game playoff. It was intense, they would stream it and I would watch all the hard work that season come down to one game. It was awesome.

but it almost sounds like you think this is going away, you can still do all that. it just wont have the stuff the offline franchise has, but what you mentioned that is still there.

[eric7064]

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but it almost sounds like you think this is going away, you can still do all that. it just wont have the stuff the offline franchise has, but what you mentioned that is still there.

But there are huge issues with it.
Injuries don't work.
No position player fatigue
Opening day every day
Schedule is the same
And many many more. This is a barebones mode that literally has gone untouched since mlb 14

[CrimsionXBL]

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but it almost sounds like you think this is going away, you can still do all that. it just wont have the stuff the offline franchise has, but what you mentioned that is still there.

And it's not us that makes it sound like it's going away, it's the Devs, once again the way they look at it is "there's not a lot of people playing this mode" so they don't sink resources into it, but with this remaining the same for the third straight year and none of the issues in the above post being touched, the numbers will continue to shrink.

[Ghost Of The Year]

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I think SCEA is content with where online franchise is (for the moment) & the amount of customers they will lose for standing pat on the mode is negligible. But the amount they potentially stand to gain for focusing elsehere is too great to pass up. I'm not saying that's right or wrong, I'm just saying sometimes it just is what it is. It's a very tricky & fine line between windmill tilting & ''nothing ventured, nothing gained''.

[steelerfan]

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I think SCEA is content with where online franchise is (for the moment) & the amount of customers they will lose for standing pat on the mode is negligible. But the amount they potentially stand to gain for focusing elsehere is too great to pass up. I'm not saying that's right or wrong, I'm just saying sometimes it just is what it is. It's a very tricky & fine line between windmill tilting & ''nothing ventured, nothing gained''.

I've never played OF and probably never will because it will probably never be good enough.

The problem I have is when modes are added and then abandoned. If you're going to abandon it, don't waste the resources (that could have been used elsewhere) to develop it in the first place.

Putting in a new mode and then not having a long term, structured plan for it (exactly how much time and money will be used on it over the next 3 years, for example) is just poor management.

When companies add new modes and then abandon them (EA is famous for this) it makes them look like a child with ADHD. It's doing business by the seat of their pants. Like I said, poor management.

[Syce]

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I've never played OF and probably never will because it will probably never be good enough.

The problem I have is when modes are added and then abandoned. If you're going to abandon it, don't waste the resources (that could have been used elsewhere) to develop it in the first place.

Putting in a new mode and then not having a long term, structured plan for it (exactly how much time and money will be used on it over the next 3 years, for example) is just poor management.

When companies add new modes and then abandon them (EA is famous for this) it makes them look like a child with ADHD. It's doing business by the seat of their pants. Like I said, poor management.

they develop it because you dont know how well its going to do, just like the 2 new DD modes, no one knows how well they will do until they see the numbers afterwards. new modes mean possibly more people joining the series, obviously online franchise has not lived up to the standards that SCEA initially thought.

for example the NHL series with GM Connected. they never knew that it would fail like it did.