MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

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What are the thoughts on what the Padres got for James Shelids ??


Erick Johnson + Fernando Tatis Jr. ??

I would say that the ChiSox made out on that trade, Johnson isn't anything great and Tatis Jr, isnt even in single A yet from what I have heard, plus SD is on the hook for the majority of his contract. Low risk move for them i would suppose

[Dirty_D_]

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It's not much, but after the owner came out and ripped the team (and Shields individually) it's about right. They sent around 30 million to the White Sox as well.

I'll admit when I heard the Padres were eating money, I thought it was going to cost the Sox a little bit more than Johnson + Tatis 2. Oh well, he's not pitching well and the Padres were desperate to get him out of town.

I would say that the ChiSox made out on that trade, Johnson isn't anything great and Tatis Jr, isnt even in single A yet from what I have heard, plus SD is on the hook for the majority of his contract. Low risk move for them i would suppose

Honestly I was truly flabbergasted when I Saw the details. Padres GM got Sheilds out of town before he saw him in the hallway. lol

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Honestly I was truly flabbergasted when I Saw the details. Padres GM got Sheilds out of town before he saw him in the hallway. lol

Can't get much value when your GM comes out and talks about how bad the team has been playing and specifically names Shields. Kinda a buzz kill when it comes to trades lol

[redsox4evur]

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Going back to the Stanton trade you need one of Betts/Bogaerts in there. There is NO SHOT the Marlins aren't getting a young MLB player back in return for Stanton.


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[CBoller1331]

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I'm a about 4 games for the AS game, and looking to make a move for another pitcher in my Cubs franchise. I was looking towards Oakland and Sonny Gray, the As are not a playoff team, and have already moved their closer. Would Soler, Almora, Johnson, and Underwood be close value for Gray.

A's get
Soler
Almora
Underwood
Johnson

Cubs get
Gray
Lowest rated player on roster.

I would have to do it in 2 trades, is the value close. Thanks for any info

If its not too late I think this is an overpay for Gray....unless he's pitching like an ace.

Honestly I think taking Almora out of the deal would make it better. Stats would make this much easier to figure out....

[ZoeK35]

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If its not too late I think this is an overpay for Gray....unless he's pitching like an ace.

Honestly I think taking Almora out of the deal would make it better. Stats would make this much easier to figure out....

I haven't had a chance to play yet, but will send you a pm with stats as soon as I get a chance.

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Also have a question about a framework for a Sonny Gray trade in my Red Sox Chise, what would be a good trade as Sonny Gray is struggling this season in Franchise

Sonny Gray 7-8, 4.42 ERA 87 Ks 44 BBs

What would be a fair deal if I was to deal Buchholz to Houston or Pirates (Both of whom are looking for starters), who is looking for a fourth pitcher as McHugh tore his labrum and is out for the season.

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If its not too late I think this is an overpay for Gray....unless he's pitching like an ace.

Honestly I think taking Almora out of the deal would make it better. Stats would make this much easier to figure out....

How would that be an over pay ? Only Almora is in the top 100 of prospects at #88 ??? The A's will sit on Gray before trading him for garbage.... Yes Gray has been pitching bad lately but who's not entitled to a bad year ? He has to much team control to trade him for anything less then a stellar return

[CBoller1331]

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How would that be an over pay ? Only Almora is in the top 100 of prospects at #88 ??? The A's will sit on Gray before trading him for garbage.... Yes Gray has been pitching bad lately but who's not entitled to a bad year ? He has to much team control to trade him for anything less then a stellar return

Underwood is 71 on MLB.com and is the Cubs top pitching prospect....but I also said it would be easier to figure it out with stats, if Soler is hitting well and Gray is under-performing like he is this year I don't think taking Almora out is going to affect the deal that much. It really depends on how the players involved are performing

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Underwood is 71 on MLB.com and is the Cubs top pitching prospect....but I also said it would be easier to figure it out with stats, if Soler is hitting well and Gray is under-performing like he is this year I don't think taking Almora out is going to affect the deal that much. It really depends on how the players involved are performing

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If he's pitching bad like he is IRL the A's will HOLD ON TO HIM till he turns it back on... He has to many years of team control left as I stated before..

For Zobirst the A's got the Royals second best pitcher in the farm Sean Manaea (rank #81 in Kieths law top 100 or #66 in MLB.com list) at age 33 ? You think there gonna take less for Gray ????

This is what I posted when he first asked what to give up on page #266 Comment #2122

Cubs Get - Sonny Gray

Oakland Get's- Soler + Baez + Underwood

****In trades people should look as if there the team trading the player they want... And ask yourself if you would take the players offered

[CBoller1331]

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Kieth Laws Top 100 > MLB.com List

If he's pitching bad like he is IRL the A's will HOLD ON TO HIM till he turns it back on... He has to many years of team control left as I stated before..

For Zobirst the A's got the Royals second best pitcher in the farm Sean Manaea (rank #81 in Kieths law top 100) at age 33 ? You think there gonna take less for Gray ????

This is what I posted when he first asked what to give up on page #266 Comment #2122

Cubs Get - Sonny Gray

Oakland Get's- Soler + Baez + Underwood

****In trades people should look as if there the team trading the player they want... And ask yourself if you would take the players offered

How Soler and Gray and Almora or Baez are performing is still important. You also have to take into account how 'desperate' the user is to add another piece to the rotation. If he thinks that trading for Gray is necessary to continue a serious run, then its very likely that hes willing to over pay.

The Zobrist comparison is relevant...especially because it builds off my last point. The Royals were desperate for another infielder because Omar Infante was one of the worst offensive players in baseball, and they werent sure what they were going to get out of Moustakas (if i remember correctly he was struggling in the first half and started hitting better in the last few months...). Thats why they were willing to give up Manaea. [Edit: Moustakas' struggles were 2014.]

Also, if I am the only one on this thread who thinks this is an overpay, by no means let me ruin the deal. At the very least im just trying to make you think about it.:wink:

[Dirty_D_]

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How Soler and Gray and Almora or Baez are performing is still important. You also have to take into account how 'desperate' the user is to add another piece to the rotation. If he thinks that trading for Gray is necessary to continue a serious run, then its very likely that hes willing to over pay.

The Zobrist comparison is relevant...especially because it builds off my last point. The Royals were desperate for another infielder because Omar Infante was one of the worst offensive players in baseball, and they werent sure what they were going to get out of Moustakas (if i remember correctly he was struggling in the first half and started hitting better in the last few months...). Thats why they were willing to give up Manaea. [Edit: Moustakas' struggles were 2014.]

Also, if I am the only one on this thread who thinks this is an overpay, by no means let me ruin the deal. At the very least im just trying to make you think about it.:wink:

IE. User is the Cubs... You and I were the only ones who commented. and I'm far from perfect on the trade front...

*That's why I wanted to hear your reason, I do understand that the stats are important but lets say if he goes 0-10 on a bad team with little run support which the A's are he can be had for cheap ?

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Also have a question about a framework for a Sonny Gray trade in my Red Sox Chise, what would be a good trade as Sonny Gray is struggling this season in Franchise

Sonny Gray 7-8, 4.42 ERA 87 Ks 44 BBs

What would be a fair deal if I was to deal Buchholz to Houston or Pirates (Both of whom are looking for starters), who is looking for a fourth pitcher as McHugh tore his labrum and is out for the season.

I don't think it's realistic for a team that wants to deal for a SP to deal away Buchholz at the same time. You Boston fans, lol. First it was Swihart, now everyone needs to move Buchholz. Put Buchholz in the pen and go after Gray.

Gray's stats aren't all that impressive...how about Benintendi + Coyle + Owens?

How Soler and Gray and Almora or Baez are performing is still important. You also have to take into account how 'desperate' the user is to add another piece to the rotation. If he thinks that trading for Gray is necessary to continue a serious run, then its very likely that hes willing to over pay.

The Zobrist comparison is relevant...especially because it builds off my last point. The Royals were desperate for another infielder because Omar Infante was one of the worst offensive players in baseball, and they werent sure what they were going to get out of Moustakas (if i remember correctly he was struggling in the first half and started hitting better in the last few months...). Thats why they were willing to give up Manaea. [Edit: Moustakas' struggles were 2014.]

Also, if I am the only one on this thread who thinks this is an overpay, by no means let me ruin the deal. At the very least im just trying to make you think about it.:wink:

No, it's definitely an overpay. Soler or Baez, but not both. Also the whole 4 prospects one for Sonny Gray is an overpay. Soler or Baez alone have the potential to equal Sonny Gray. They're also so boom-or-bust that I don't think Beane would be set on them.

It depends on stats and injuries, but I see more of a Schwarber + Voggy + C.J. Edwards for Gray. Maybe toss in Underwood instead of Edwards if Gray is doing well.

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I don't think it's realistic for a team that wants to deal for a SP to deal away Buchholz at the same time. You Boston fans, lol. First it was Swihart, now everyone needs to move Buchholz. Put Buchholz in the pen and go after Gray.

Gray's stats aren't all that impressive...how about Benintendi + Coyle + Owens?



No, it's definitely an overpay. Soler or Baez, but not both. Also the whole 4 prospects one for Sonny Gray is an overpay. Soler or Baez alone have the potential to equal Sonny Gray. They're also so boom-or-bust that I don't think Beane would be set on them.

It depends on stats and injuries, but I see more of a Schwarber + Voggy + C.J. Edwards for Gray. Maybe toss in Underwood instead of Edwards if Gray is doing well.

A lot of people see Schwarber > Soler

But the deal you posted would be more then find then, I see both trades good enough to pull the deal off. Being I rate Schwarber higher then Soler


**Side note I like the trade you proposed for the Red Sox to get Gray***

[CBoller1331]

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No, it's definitely an overpay. Soler or Baez, but not both. Also the whole 4 prospects one for Sonny Gray is an overpay. Soler or Baez alone have the potential to equal Sonny Gray. They're also so boom-or-bust that I don't think Beane would be set on them.

It depends on stats and injuries, but I see more of a Schwarber + Voggy + C.J. Edwards for Gray. Maybe toss in Underwood instead of Edwards if Gray is doing well.

Maybe its because I am really high on him, or miss watching him hit homeruns, or have an emotional attachment to him from last October, or because I just hit 3 HR with him against the pirates; but id hate to watch Kyle Schwarber play baseball for another team.

Thats just the fan in me though. That is a fair deal

I do agree with Dirty_D_ though. Scwarber > Soler...although not by much if he cant hit lefties