MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

[WaitTilNextYear]

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I just passed the All Star break in my franchise, so Im now into trading season. Here are a few deals Id like some input on.

1. Astros get Mark Trumbo from the Orioles.

Trumbo's stats: .262/.321/.500, 19 HR, 1.67 WAR

What would this deal look like? Orioles are well out of it, Astros need a Right handed bat to play either LF or 1B. (Gattis will play the other). Colby Rasmus has been otrocious especially against lefties, but the need at the very least a platoon partner with Preston Tucker, who has been eating RHP's alive.

2. Rangers get Julio Teheran and AJ Pierzynski from the Braves

Teheran: 110 IP, 3.11 ERA, 1.26 WHIP, 7.85 K/9, 3.37 FIP, 2.23 WAR

Pierzynski: .266/.294/.324, 1 HR .51 WAR (173 AB's)

Rangers need another starter, Hamels has been their only consistent arm. Also could use a backup catcher, as Chirinos is playing pretty well. Pierzynsi would just be a serviceable backup

3. Rangers get Shields/Ross (or both??) from Padres

Ross: 110 IP, 3.35 ERA, 1.33 WHIP, 9.98 K/9, 2.67 FIP, 3.09 WAR

Shields: 91.2 IP (had a short stint on DL), 3.14 ERA, 1.23 WHIP, 7.95 K/9, 3.26 FIP, 1.97 WAR

Same situation as above...and it would be one of these deals or the other (Braves deal or Pads deal). If they could only get one of the two, Ross would be preferred for pretty obvious reasons. But if they could get both Id think it wouldn't be that much more depending on how much of Shields contract they took on.

Any ideas for what these deals would cost?

1. When Trumbo was traded to Baltimore in the off season, he was dealt along with C.J. Riefenhauser from Seattle for Steve Clevenger. Those triple slash stats you posted are pretty close to what he did last season factoring in him trading Safeco for Oriole Park (more homers, obviously). I think sending Baltimore an arm like Joe Musgrove would make them pretty happy about a potential deal and wouldn't deplete Houston's playoff run.

2. Pierzynski doesn't have any value really. Stick of bubble gum or PTBNL type of guy. As for Teheran, he's a difficult case because the Braves are saying he's virtually untouchable and a lot of others see a so so starting pitcher. Maybe a package of Lewis Brinson + Yohander Mendez is a compromise where Texas holds onto Gallo/Profar/Mazara/Tate and Atlanta feels fairly compensated for losing all that team control on a productive Teheran.

3. It probably makes more sense for them to get Ross and Shields over spending a lot on Teheran. Ross is a rental and taking on Shields would lower the price on Ross. I think Texas could get both by assuming all the money and kicking in something like Josh Morgan + Jose LeClerc or a couple of whatever fringe Top 15-20 prospects you have in your roster.

[Tmizzle]

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Any other ideas for my trade targets?

[benparillo102]

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Would I being overpaying to get Pedro Alvarez at the deadline?

Tigers Get: Pedro Alvarez

O's Get: CP Joe Jimenez (B potential, Futures Game participant)

If Jimenez is too much to give up, how about a package of Steven Moya and Matt Boyd?

Also, would it be a fair deal if I sent Moya or Boyd to the Braves for Markakis?

[benparillo102]

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Another possible trade:

Tigers get Justin Mourneau

White Sox get Matt Boyd, Paul Voelker

Thoughts?

[epikOH]

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How do you make it so that one team eats a players contract?

[Totte]

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How do you make it so that one team eats a players contract?

You can't. Only way to do it is to trade the large contract player for a league minimum player

[Daonlyjmo7]

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Hey guys, in my Padres franchise I am looking to get Gallo from the Rangers without giving Ross. I was thinking something along the lines of Gallo for Norris/Pomeranz could get it done? What do you guys think?

[sink4ever]

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How do you make it so that one team eats a players contract?

One thing you can do to "eat" a portion of a player's salary is by releasing them. If you release someone, you should get a popup telling you how much of their salary you'll be responsible for each year. What I would is record their ratings, drop them drastically, release them, then re-sign them to a deal for the balance of their original salary (or have the team you're trading them to sign them for the balance). Then just restore their ratings.

[adamj2281]

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One thing you can do to "eat" a portion of a player's salary is by releasing them. If you release someone, you should get a popup telling you how much of their salary you'll be responsible for each year. What I would is record their ratings, drop them drastically, release them, then re-sign them to a deal for the balance of their original salary (or have the team you're trading them to sign them for the balance). Then just restore their ratings.

Just out of curiosity, I don't know that that popup works for future years. If the released player counts against your budget for say, the next 2 years - shouldn't it show up in the budget?

[GamecocksLaw17]

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Hey guys, in my Padres franchise I am looking to get Gallo from the Rangers without giving Ross. I was thinking something along the lines of Gallo for Norris/Pomeranz could get it done? What do you guys think?

Don't really think the Padres could get that done even if you included Ross. You can't place limits on players on a below average team when trying to acquire a top 10 prospect with 80 grade power

[CBoller1331]

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Hey guys, in my Padres franchise I am looking to get Gallo from the Rangers without giving Ross. I was thinking something along the lines of Gallo for Norris/Pomeranz could get it done? What do you guys think?

Padres don't have what it takes to get Gallo. IF Gallo gets traded it would be in a deal for a Fernandez/Sale type. Tyson Ross is good, but well below that 'elite' tier

[Daonlyjmo7]

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Don't really think the Padres could get that done even if you included Ross. You can't place limits on players on a below average team when trying to acquire a top 10 prospect with 80 grade power

My logic behind the deal was that Texas is obviously primed for a playoff run this year. Teams that eye contending but have some holes will be more likely to give top prospects. Also, the last top 10 prospect to be traded was Dansby Swanson, who conveniently ranks 1 spot ahead of Gallo on the MLB Pipeline list. He was traded for Shelby Miller. I think Pomeranz is better than Miller as long as this season isn't a fluke which I don't think it is. Also, getting Norris to fill catcher helps that much more. What do you guys think? (Btw im not trying to argue against your decision, im trying to tell you my argument.)

[CBoller1331]

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My logic behind the deal was that Texas is obviously primed for a playoff run this year. Teams that eye contending but have some holes will be more likely to give top prospects. Also, the last top 10 prospect to be traded was Dansby Swanson, who conveniently ranks 1 spot ahead of Gallo on the MLB Pipeline list. He was traded for Shelby Miller. I think Pomeranz is better than Miller as long as this season isn't a fluke which I don't think it is. Also, getting Norris to fill catcher helps that much more. What do you guys think? (Btw im not trying to argue against your decision, im trying to tell you my argument.)

I think comparing any trade to the Miller/Swanson deal doesn't solve things. Pretty much everyone (outside of Braves fans) would agree that Dansby Swanson was a HUGE overpay for a Shelby Miller. I agree that Pomeranz is better than Shelby Miller, but if he is traded it will not be for someone of Swanson's caliber because Miller is much less valuable than Swanson, and we are seeing how bad this trade was as Swanson is playing well in AA, and Miller is having a poor year thus far.

[redsox4evur]

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My logic behind the deal was that Texas is obviously primed for a playoff run this year. Teams that eye contending but have some holes will be more likely to give top prospects. Also, the last top 10 prospect to be traded was Dansby Swanson, who conveniently ranks 1 spot ahead of Gallo on the MLB Pipeline list. He was traded for Shelby Miller. I think Pomeranz is better than Miller as long as this season isn't a fluke which I don't think it is. Also, getting Norris to fill catcher helps that much more. What do you guys think? (Btw im not trying to argue against your decision, im trying to tell you my argument.)

No you aren't getting Gallo. If the Rangers were going to move someone like Sale or Fernandez would be on the Rangers instead of Cole Hamels. And can we please stop using that damn Miller trade as rationale for any trade of a top prospect for a non elite player. That was easily the worst trade this decade that I can think of off the top of my head. Name me the last trade that was that lopsided. The only one I can think of off the top of my head was Jeff Bagwell for Mark Langston back in the 80's or early 90's. And there was even rationale for that one. Bagwell wasn't a great a prospect at the time and the deal only looks so bad for the Sox now because he somehow put it together and became a HOF player.

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[Daonlyjmo7]

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Plus the Rangers and Rays are rumored to make a Odorizzi for Gallo trade. I believe that my package is significantly better.