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  • ItsColdOutside
    Rookie
    • Apr 2016
    • 18

    #871
    Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

    What would it take to get Sano from the twins? He's one of the guys I do really well with in the other modes but I don't want to use the Twins for my franchise. I know it's not probably not something that would happen but I'd like to get it as fair as possible.

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    • GamecocksLaw17
      MVP
      • Jun 2015
      • 1503

      #872
      Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by ItsColdOutside
      What would it take to get Sano from the twins? He's one of the guys I do really well with in the other modes but I don't want to use the Twins for my franchise. I know it's not probably not something that would happen but I'd like to get it as fair as possible.

      What team are you playing as?


      It would take a king's ransom to get Sano. He has 80 grade power and is right handed. Plus he is young and pre-arbitration. It definitely isn't realistic, and to make it fair it would really hurt the farm.

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      • kenp86
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        • May 2008
        • 2979

        #873
        Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by GamecocksLaw17
        His contract is a legit issue. Most teams cannot take on that type of salary, and would hesitate to do so while also giving away valuable prospects. His value really depends on how well he is pitching. $28 million per year for a pitcher that hasn't broken 3 WAR since 2013 is a tough pill to swallow.
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        • ItsColdOutside
          Rookie
          • Apr 2016
          • 18

          #874
          Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

          I'm playing as the cardinals right now. I'm using osfm 2.2 and haven't made any moves. I like the idea of him playing right while Holliday plays first and using him at third with Carpenter at second. I have played a few games and have not played well with Wong at all. Anyone can go really except Grichuk and Piscotty.

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          • D13
            Pro
            • Jun 2013
            • 611

            #875
            Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by ItsColdOutside
            I'm playing as the cardinals right now. I'm using osfm 2.2 and haven't made any moves. I like the idea of him playing right while Holliday plays first and using him at third with Carpenter at second. I have played a few games and have not played well with Wong at all. Anyone can go really except Grichuk and Piscotty.
            you don't get sano without Grichuk or piscotty. realistically speaking
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            • Bard
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              • Oct 2010
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              #876
              Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

              Originally posted by D13
              you don't get sano without Grichuk or piscotty. realistically speaking
              Reyes, one of Grichuk/Piscotty, what after that? I am not too sure if this deal can happen. They need one more top piece to add in.

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              • ItsColdOutside
                Rookie
                • Apr 2016
                • 18

                #877
                Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

                Thanks for responding guys. Looks like I'll give up on those dreams lol. Might just stick to the trade block to get some production from my infield, I'm not getting a whole lot from first, second, or short really.

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                • k_mac
                  MVP
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 2059

                  #878
                  Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by ItsColdOutside
                  Thanks for responding guys. Looks like I'll give up on those dreams lol. Might just stick to the trade block to get some production from my infield, I'm not getting a whole lot from first, second, or short really.
                  While Sano would cost a ton, I still feel like the Cardinals could get it done without Piscotty or Grichuk.. There's a lot of talent to work with in that system.

                  You said pretty much anyone else could go, right? Build a deal around Wacha and prospects, and that could work. St. Louis always has someone that can come up from the minors and put up stellar numbers on the bump. Minnesota is going to build a team around a guy like Sano (and have no real reason to move him), so it's going to be a little more than what you're comfortable trading if you really want him.

                  Spitballing here..

                  Wacha + Reyes + Flaherty or Weaver ?

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                  • GamecocksLaw17
                    MVP
                    • Jun 2015
                    • 1503

                    #879
                    Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by k_mac
                    While Sano would cost a ton, I still feel like the Cardinals could get it done without Piscotty or Grichuk.. There's a lot of talent to work with in that system.

                    You said pretty much anyone else could go, right? Build a deal around Wacha and prospects, and that could work. St. Louis always has someone that can come up from the minors and put up stellar numbers on the bump. Minnesota is going to build a team around a guy like Sano (and have no real reason to move him), so it's going to be a little more than what you're comfortable trading if you really want him.

                    Spitballing here..

                    Wacha + Reyes + Flaherty or Weaver ?
                    Switch that to a package starting with Carlos Martinez plus Reyes and you might be going somewhere. But why would the Twins ever fathom trading away Sano?

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                    • milldaddy35
                      MVP
                      • Feb 2013
                      • 1515

                      #880
                      Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by ItsColdOutside
                      I'm playing as the cardinals right now. I'm using osfm 2.2 and haven't made any moves. I like the idea of him playing right while Holliday plays first and using him at third with Carpenter at second. I have played a few games and have not played well with Wong at all. Anyone can go really except Grichuk and Piscotty.
                      As a Twins fan, you can't. Not realistic at all. Sano/Buxton won't be moved ever.
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                      • k_mac
                        MVP
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 2059

                        #881
                        Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by ItsColdOutside
                        Thanks for responding guys. Looks like I'll give up on those dreams lol. Might just stick to the trade block to get some production from my infield, I'm not getting a whole lot from first, second, or short really.
                        Didn't see this post before I suggested Wacha to get around trading Piscotty/Grichuk..

                        There are definitely cheaper and more realistic alternatives to play 3B (or any of those other positions).

                        Originally posted by GamecocksLaw17
                        Switch that to a package starting with Carlos Martinez plus Reyes and you might be going somewhere. But why would the Twins ever fathom trading away Sano?
                        They wouldn't, and I don't think anyone was coming out and saying it was realistic, only trying to help OP do something fair for Sano.

                        Does Martinez really have that much more value than Wacha? They're both 24. Regardless.. one of the two would have to be involved in a deal. The one I proposed seemed pitching heavy, but I honestly couldn't tell you who the best bat in the Cardinals minor league system is lol.

                        C-Mart/Wacha + Reyes + Flaherty/Weaver + a bat?

                        That's a very young, very talented, cost controlled pitcher who has shown at least flashes success in the majors + a top 10-15 prospect + a back end T100 prospect/a guy who isn't too far away from being there + their best bat in the minors..

                        You'd have to think that Minnesota wouldn't want to move Sano, but that kind of offer would at least get some attention.

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                        • ItsColdOutside
                          Rookie
                          • Apr 2016
                          • 18

                          #882
                          Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

                          Yeah I knew there was no chance that the reals Twins would trade him, but I was just trying to make it fair. Thanks for the help and ideas if I do decide to try and do it. There are some cheaper options on the trade block in my franchise for sure. Might try for Freddy Galvis or Marwin Gonzalez. The Twins have Plouffe and Escobar on the block too so I might still trade with them lol.

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                          • pootytang
                            Rookie
                            • Jul 2011
                            • 116

                            #883
                            Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

                            Does any Rays pitcher (including Snell) besides Archer start discussions about Schwarber?

                            If not, any MLB ready catchers I should target with Rays pitchers?

                            Is Freeman for Honeywell,Schaffer+ a possibility? Would the Rays be inclined to pay Freeman's contract like they are Longoria's? (willing to pay to lock down a position at below market value long term)

                            Any top 10 shortstops I could make a play for with Rays pitchers? What would it take to get Jose Iglesias?

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                            • ItAllFades
                              Rookie
                              • Mar 2013
                              • 324

                              #884
                              Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by milldaddy35
                              As a Twins fan, you can't. Not realistic at all. Sano/Buxton won't be moved ever.
                              If Buxton never actually hits, he'll be just another failed "can't miss" prospect with good "tools".

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                              • Gagnon39
                                Windy City Sports Fan
                                • Mar 2003
                                • 8544

                                #885
                                Re: MLB 16 Trade Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by pootytang
                                Does any Rays pitcher (including Snell) besides Archer start discussions about Schwarber?

                                If not, any MLB ready catchers I should target with Rays pitchers?

                                Is Freeman for Honeywell,Schaffer+ a possibility? Would the Rays be inclined to pay Freeman's contract like they are Longoria's? (willing to pay to lock down a position at below market value long term)

                                Any top 10 shortstops I could make a play for with Rays pitchers? What would it take to get Jose Iglesias?
                                If Schwarber was healthy and the Cubs were looking to add a piece at the trade deadline I can't imagine it would be anything less than a number one type starter. Given, anyone's going to be a two at best behind Arrieta. But if Schwarber was healthy and contributing and the Cubs were going to be (most likely) playoff bound I can't imagine them moving him. The likely piece to be moved would have been (and still could be Soler). However, again, if Schwarber was healthy and contributing that would obviously make the Soler deal much easier.

                                Now for the sake of the argument. If, for example, Schwarber was having a sub-par year and Soler had taken most of the playing time in left, then I think it might be possible for them to move Schwarber for a Chris Archer at the deadline. But in all likelyhood I think that's a long shot. Epstein and Co. love Schwarber, almost as much as Rizzo and KB.

                                So ultimately, I guess it depends on what's happening in your franchise.
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