MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

[UNDERTAKER1215]

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So I'm two weeks into June, and Sandy Leon (124 AB, 11 R, 1 HR, 8 RBI, 0 SB, .242 AVG) just isn't doing it for me, so I'm trying to see what I could get for him. Here are some potential deals I've come up with between suggested trades in game and deals I've come up with on my own.

White Sox:
SP Tyler Danish (AA - 3-4, 77.2 IP, 59 K, 29 BB, 3.24 ERA, 1.42 WHIP)
RP Zack Burdi (AAA - 3-4, 23.1 IP, 27 K, 20 BB, 7.33 ERA, 1.97 WHIP)

Angels:
SP John Lamb (AAA - 2-1, 31.0 IP, 36 K, 10 BB, 2.90 ERA, 1.35 WHIP)
C Jose Briceno (AA - 149 AB, 11 R, 0 HR, 15 RBI, 2 SB, .268 AVG)
3B Kaleb Cowart (AAA - 251 AB, 35 R, 7 HR, 33 RBI, 4 SB, .283)

Mariners:
1B/OF Kyle Waldrop [15-Day DL] (AAA - 60 AB, 10 R, 3 HR, 12 RBI, 0 SB, .367 AVG)
INF/OF Taylor Motter (MLB - 100 AB, 13 R, 1 HR, 10 RBI, 1 SB, .190)

Braves:
P Luke Jackson (AAA - 3-3, 65.1 IP, 59 K, 37 BB, 3.17 ERA, 1.52 WHIP)

Mets:
C Kevin Plawecki (MLB - 18 AB, 1 R, 0 HR, 3 RBI, 0 SB, .167 AVG)
3B/SS Gavin Cecchini (AAA - 205 AB, 21 R, 1 HR, 14 RBI, 7 SB, .273 AVG)

Brewers:
SP Cody Ponce (Single-A)
2B/SS Mauricio Dubon (AA - 193 AB, 23 R, 5 HR, 17 RBI, 1 SB, .228)

Diamondbacks:
SP Zack Godley (AAA - 2-2, 65.1 IP, 60 K, 26 BB, 4.41 ERA, 1.52 WHIP)

Now these are just ideas, not everyone would need to be included. I know some are unlikely like Cecchini.

Thoughts? Open to other suggestions.

[Worldserieswinner28]

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Benintindi is a hell of a player but I don't see him putting up a 170+ wRC+ anytime soon

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I do get that and that is why I have brought this to this discussion board where I normally just read and dont post but the discussion ended and never picked back up when I saw it being talked about. Harper has had a 112 wRC+ last year in real life with a 3.5 WAR and up to this point in the season is setting at 0.2 WAR in my game which is making him have back to back poor seasons and I do not know how to calculate wRC+ for in my game since I did not see a stat on that in the game. So I guess does that affect his value or not really that he has put together one and a half poor seasons with only a season and a half left on the contract with the nats looking like a few seasons away from competing again (in my game)? I know in real life the price tag is HUGE but with this info what is the current price tag? Thanks

[rtwilli4]

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I do get that and that is why I have brought this to this discussion board where I normally just read and dont post but the discussion ended and never picked back up when I saw it being talked about. Harper has had a 112 wRC+ last year in real life with a 3.5 WAR and up to this point in the season is setting at 0.2 WAR in my game which is making him have back to back poor seasons and I do not know how to calculate wRC+ for in my game since I did not see a stat on that in the game. So I guess does that affect his value or not really that he has put together one and a half poor seasons with only a season and a half left on the contract with the nats looking like a few seasons away from competing again (in my game)? I know in real life the price tag is HUGE but with this info what is the current price tag? Thanks

Can't say for sure... it's your franchise so you have to create the story line. Maybe he's upset with how poorly the team is performing or maybe he doesn't get along with the management or the media or maybe he is playing through an injury (people thought this in 2016).

There are any number of reasons why his price tag would still be huge in you're world but that's up to you. Question is... if he's just a replacement level player then what are we even talking about?

Look at Andrew McCutchen. At one point his price tag would have been massive and everyone knew he'd be traded because that's what Pittsburg does. But a season and a half later and he's worth absolutely nothing. To the point where Pittsburgh is just going to buy him out and say goodbye to the biggest name their franchise has had in decades.

Same thing I said to the other guy... if you want realism then the Nats wouldn't tear down. When is the last time you saw a team in the northeast "rebuild?" Aside from the Phillies, it doesn't happen. Those media markets are too big, and too close together... the teams simply can't afford to suck for entire seasons. So if anything, they trade for MLB ready guys.

If you're not interested in that kind of realism then you can create whatever story line you want. That's the whole point of this game!




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[Worldserieswinner28]

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Can't say for sure... it's your franchise so you have to create the story line. Maybe he's upset with how poorly the team is performing or maybe he doesn't get along with the management or the media or maybe he is playing through an injury (people thought this in 2016).

There are any number of reasons why his price tag would still be huge in you're world but that's up to you. Question is... if he's just a replacement level player then what are we even talking about?

Look at Andrew McCutchen. At one point his price tag would have been massive and everyone knew he'd be traded because that's what Pittsburg does. But a season and a half later and he's worth absolutely nothing. To the point where Pittsburgh is just going to buy him out and say goodbye to the biggest name their franchise has had in decades.

Same thing I said to the other guy... if you want realism then the Nats wouldn't tear down. When is the last time you saw a team in the northeast "rebuild?" Aside from the Phillies, it doesn't happen. Those media markets are too big, and too close together... the teams simply can't afford to suck for entire seasons. So if anything, they trade for MLB ready guys.

If you're not interested in that kind of realism then you can create whatever story line you want. That's the whole point of this game!




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So just spit balling but I think the yankees could be the winner signing him no matter where he gets traded to but that is just what every article I read is saying so with the current numbers does this get it done or is it still to light.
Harper for Bird (.302 13 HRs 26 RBIs) Rutherford AAA (.298 2 HRs 27 RBIs) Fowler AAA (.279 5 HRs 29 RBIs) Frazier AAA (.313 13 HRs 39 RBIs) Andujar AA (.276 4 HRs 21 RBIs) Sheffield AA (5-2 79 IP 85 SO 2.19 ERA 1.12 WHIP) Tate AA (3-5 56 IP 65 SO 2.78 ERA 1.24 WHIP)
It Could be extremely light or overpaid. I just took some of the players that are higher up in the organization with lots of team control that have been playing very well which I was shocked that a few have not been promoted up to this point yet with those numbers.

If need be james kaprielian is in AAA (6-2 85 IP 78 SO 2.11 ERA .99 WHIP)

I just noticed as I was going back through that Torres and Judge are both out a few months a piece which makes Harper more attractive to play RF with judge being out 3-4 months.

[kenp86]

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So just spit balling but I think the yankees could be the winner signing him no matter where he gets traded to but that is just what every article I read is saying so with the current numbers does this get it done or is it still to light.
Harper for Bird (.302 13 HRs 26 RBIs) Rutherford AAA (.298 2 HRs 27 RBIs) Fowler AAA (.279 5 HRs 29 RBIs) Frazier AAA (.313 13 HRs 39 RBIs) Andujar AA (.276 4 HRs 21 RBIs) Sheffield AA (5-2 79 IP 85 SO 2.19 ERA 1.12 WHIP) Tate AA (3-5 56 IP 65 SO 2.78 ERA 1.24 WHIP)
It Could be extremely light or overpaid. I just took some of the players that are higher up in the organization with lots of team control that have been playing very well which I was shocked that a few have not been promoted up to this point yet with those numbers.

If need be james kaprielian is in AAA (6-2 85 IP 78 SO 2.11 ERA .99 WHIP)

I just noticed as I was going back through that Torres and Judge are both out a few months a piece which makes Harper more attractive to play RF with judge being out 3-4 months.

That package doesnt get it done. Starts with Torres, Frazier, Sheffield, Kapriellan and Rutherford id guess if not Judge included

[rtwilli4]

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So just spit balling but I think the yankees could be the winner signing him no matter where he gets traded to but that is just what every article I read is saying so with the current numbers does this get it done or is it still to light.

Harper for Bird (.302 13 HRs 26 RBIs) Rutherford AAA (.298 2 HRs 27 RBIs) Fowler AAA (.279 5 HRs 29 RBIs) Frazier AAA (.313 13 HRs 39 RBIs) Andujar AA (.276 4 HRs 21 RBIs) Sheffield AA (5-2 79 IP 85 SO 2.19 ERA 1.12 WHIP) Tate AA (3-5 56 IP 65 SO 2.78 ERA 1.24 WHIP)

It Could be extremely light or overpaid. I just took some of the players that are higher up in the organization with lots of team control that have been playing very well which I was shocked that a few have not been promoted up to this point yet with those numbers.



If need be james kaprielian is in AAA (6-2 85 IP 78 SO 2.11 ERA .99 WHIP)



I just noticed as I was going back through that Torres and Judge are both out a few months a piece which makes Harper more attractive to play RF with judge being out 3-4 months.

If you were the Yankees GM and needed to post a winning season in 2018 and a make a WS appearance by 2020, would you make that trade?

How are they doing in your franchise?


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[Worldserieswinner28]

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If you were the Yankees GM and needed to post a winning season in 2018 and a make a WS appearance by 2020, would you make that trade?

How are they doing in your franchise?


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They are in first place 1.5 games up on me (blue jays). second best record in baseball.

[GamecocksLaw17]

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They are in first place 1.5 games up on me (blue jays). second best record in baseball.

It's too much of quantity over quality. To get Harper every team in baseball would have to start with their #1 prospect and go from there

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[rtwilli4]

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They are in first place 1.5 games up on me (blue jays). second best record in baseball.

That's way too much. You'd be taking the Yankees farm from top 5 to bottom 5. I think you picked the right team though. Especially if Judge is hurt.

Bird and Frazier is already a haul and replace Zimmer and Werth. Throw in a pitcher maybe ?

I don't know, maybe someone else will chime in, but I just don't like teams trading high end prospects unless it's for a huge pitching upgrade.






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[Worldserieswinner28]

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It's too much of quantity over quality. To get Harper every team in baseball would have to start with their #1 prospect and go from there

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okay. I thought Bird, rutherford, frazier, sheffield and kaprielian would all constitute as quality and Fowler and andujar are high upside guys from what I read. I thought maybe even it was over paying like the other guy had said just by looking at the numbers.

[GamecocksLaw17]

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okay. I thought Bird, rutherford, frazier, sheffield and kaprielian would all constitute as quality and Fowler and andujar are high upside guys from what I read. I thought maybe even it was over paying like the other guy had said just by looking at the numbers.

You are trading for a guy who could put up over 12 WAR in the 1.5 years any team gets him. That requires Torres. You cannot in any way shape or form get Harper and keep Torres, Sanchez and Judge

Those are quality guys, but there's a different tier required to get a Harper or Machado. If you aren't paying out the a** the Nationals just keep him and hope to win in 2018
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[Worldserieswinner28]

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You are trading for a guy who could put up over 12 WAR in the 1.5 years any team gets him. That requires Torres. You cannot in any way shape or form get Harper and keep Torres, Sanchez and Judge

Those are quality guys, but there's a different tier required to get a Harper or Machado. If you aren't paying out the a** the Nationals just keep him and hope to win in 2018
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Okay. That works. Like I said im the blue jays and was just looking for a team to trade harper to since that is what was posted if murphy was traded. Since harper has struggled for a year and a half in my game I didnt want to screw any team whether that team was the nats or the team trading for harper.

[GamecocksLaw17]

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Okay. That works. Like I said im the blue jays and was just looking for a team to trade harper to since that is what was posted if murphy was traded. Since harper has struggled for a year and a half in my game I didnt want to screw any team whether that team was the nats or the team trading for harper.

It comes down to this. If he isn't playing well enough to receive a kings ransom, as in like 3 or 4 of a teams top 5 including their #1 then he won't be traded. It doesn't make sense for Washington at that point

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[rtwilli4]

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Okay. That works. Like I said im the blue jays and was just looking for a team to trade harper to since that is what was posted if murphy was traded. Since harper has struggled for a year and a half in my game I didnt want to screw any team whether that team was the nats or the team trading for harper.

I agree with Gamecockslaw17... I'll try to say it in fewer words next time.

When I said too much, I meant it was too many. 6-7 player deals aren't good for either team. The Nats want guaranteed contributors and the Yankees want to have a farm system left.

I've said it several times now. Realistically the Nats wouldn't rebuild. That's not only because they are good IRL, it's just because they wouldn't do it. Too much talent, too much momentum with their fan base, and a somewhat weak division.






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[HakeemtheDream]

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Is a Bellinger for Odorizzi trade fair?