MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

[MrSerendipity]

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The contending teams are Astros, Rangers, Indians, Tigers,Yankees, Red Sox, Blue Jays, Braves, Mets, Cubs, Cardinals, Dodgers and Rockies. I am not the best at putting packages together so just trying to get the best fit for Harper. He is only hitting .231 with 6 Hrs and 21 RBIs in June with the Nats record being 28-42 and Harper has not been hurt either just some info.

Here are the only teams I could see pulling off a trade for Harper (out of those competitive teams):

Yankees
Red Sox
Dodgers
Cubs

Others may disagree but I think those are your best options. New York package would probably have to be built around Torres and Judge. Boston would have to build their package around Benintendi and Devers. Los Angeles would have to build their package around Puig, Bellinger and Alvarez. Chicago would have to build their package around Schwarber, Happ and Cease.

When I say build around, I'm meaning other pieces will have to be included. Others may think I'm off on this so it might be better to wait for further follow-up.

[Worldserieswinner28]

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Here are the only teams I could see pulling off a trade for Harper (out of those competitive teams):

Yankees
Red Sox
Dodgers
Cubs

Others may disagree but I think those are your best options. New York package would probably have to be built around Torres and Judge. Boston would have to build their package around Benintendi and Devers. Los Angeles would have to build their package around Puig, Bellinger and Alvarez. Chicago would have to build their package around Schwarber, Happ and Cease.

When I say build around, I'm meaning other pieces will have to be included. Others may think I'm off on this so it might be better to wait for further follow-up.

Thanks. Im just curious since I do not want to have a team over or under pay for one of the games best even though in my season he is playing poorly up to this point so i wasnt sure with back to back poor years what the package would be and if anyone needs any specific stats just let me know and ill be more than happy to get them from any team to get harper to the best possible team for the right package

[rtwilli4]

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Here are the only teams I could see pulling off a trade for Harper (out of those competitive teams):

Yankees
Red Sox
Dodgers
Cubs

Others may disagree but I think those are your best options. New York package would probably have to be built around Torres and Judge. Boston would have to build their package around Benintendi and Devers. Los Angeles would have to build their package around Puig, Bellinger and Alvarez. Chicago would have to build their package around Schwarber, Happ and Cease.

When I say build around, I'm meaning other pieces will have to be included. Others may think I'm off on this so it might be better to wait for further follow-up.

Those 4 teams have the ability to resign Harper so they are the 4 possibilities.

My problem is with trades like this... you just have to give up too much. Is any one player worth 5-6 good players/prospects? A position player?

It's easy for the media to predict a $400m contract for Harper and Machado because baseball organisations are flush with cash and there are very few places they can spend it.

But good ownership would rather spend millions of dollars than trade good prospects. Dollars pretty much grow on trees in the MLB but good young controllable talent is scarce.

Even if the Nats were tearing down (they wouldn't) the Cubs would not trade for Harper and probably don't have what it would take without it being a bad deal for them. But they probably need him most right now!

The Yankees fan base would $hit a brick if they lost Judge, Torres, +++ and they've already named a section of seats after Aaron Judge so I don't see that happening. They can just wait until after 2018 to sign Harper in FA as their young core will be in its prime in 2019.

Oddly, the Red Sox ownership seems most likely to go for a deal like this but their outfield is full and I don't know if they have enough ammo after Benintendi to get the deal done. They could use a solid left handed bat but not at the cost it episode take to get Harper.

If you want to tear down the Nats you'll have to come up with a story line that most certainly isn't going to happen anyway, so I don't see a point it worrying too much about reality. It's your world, you can make up whatever you want. If 6 months down the road, the trade looks lopsided, just edit the prospects up or down to make it fair on both teams.










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[rtwilli4]

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Thanks. Im just curious since I do not want to have a team over or under pay for one of the games best even though in my season he is playing poorly up to this point so i wasnt sure with back to back poor years what the package would be and if anyone needs any specific stats just let me know and ill be more than happy to get them from any team to get harper to the best possible team for the right package

See above post.


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[MrSerendipity]

MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

I'm near the trade deadline with the Brewers & would like to trade for Profar to replace Villar who is not having a great season so far. Profar is doing okay but just got called up to replace someone who got injured. The CPU suggested Nelson, Santana & Torres for Profar. That seems a little too much but Nelson & Santana have been struggling lately. Just wondering what would be a fair trade for Profar. Thanks!

This is kind of difficult as the Rangers aren't really a great matchup with MIL for a trade. I'm sure the Rangers would love to get Brinson back. You might be able to do a swap there. Are you interested in moving Villar? That could make things interesting with Texas.

My immediate thought goes to Braun though. Maybe a package of Profar, Jurado, Ibanez and Palumbo. I think that's fair given Braun's PED stain but somebody might tell you that's too low.

Those 4 teams have the ability to resign Harper so they are the 4 possibilities.

My problem is with trades like this... you just have to give up too much. Is any one player worth 5-6 good players/prospects? A position player?

It's easy for the media to predict a $400m contract for Harper and Machado because baseball organisations are flush with cash and there are very few places they can spend it.

But good ownership would rather spend millions of dollars than trade good prospects. Dollars pretty much grow on trees in the MLB but good young controllable talent is scarce.

Even if the Nats were tearing down (they wouldn't) the Cubs would not trade for Harper and probably don't have what it would take without it being a bad deal for them. But they probably need him most right now!

The Yankees fan base would $hit a brick if they lost Judge, Torres, +++ and they've already named a section of seats after Aaron Judge so I don't see that happening. They can just wait until after 2018 to sign Harper in FA as their young core will be in its prime in 2019.

Oddly, the Red Sox ownership seems most likely to go for a deal like this but their outfield is full and I don't know if they have enough ammo after Benintendi to get the deal done. They could use a solid left handed bat but not at the cost it episode take to get Harper.

If you want to tear down the Nats you'll have to come up with a story line that most certainly isn't going to happen anyway, so I don't see a point it worrying too much about reality. It's your world, you can make up whatever you want. If 6 months down the road, the trade looks lopsided, just edit the prospects up or down to make it fair on both teams.

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I agree. Harper is really expensive. The Cubs would have a hard time both signing Harper and resigning Bryant.

I also agree that Boston makes the most sense. Benintendi would have to be the core piece. Then I think you can add on Devers, Groome and Travis.

That helps with Washington's eventual problem at 1B, it gives them an immediate replacement for Harper in Benintendi who could become a star over the years. You get Devers who some think won't play at 3B, he could be the eventual replacement at 2B. Then you get Groome who could be a mid rotation arm in a few years.

[sportomatic75]

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How was I able to pull off a trade of Curtis Granderson and a prospect for Denard Span and Aaron Hill of the SF Giants?

[kenp86]

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This is kind of difficult as the Rangers aren't really a great matchup with MIL for a trade. I'm sure the Rangers would love to get Brinson back. You might be able to do a swap there. Are you interested in moving Villar? That could make things interesting with Texas.

My immediate thought goes to Braun though. Maybe a package of Profar, Jurado, Ibanez and Palumbo. I think that's fair given Braun's PED stain but somebody might tell you that's too low.




I agree. Harper is really expensive. The Cubs would have a hard time both signing Harper and resigning Bryant.

I also agree that Boston makes the most sense. Benintendi would have to be the core piece. Then I think you can add on Devers, Groome and Travis.

That helps with Washington's eventual problem at 1B, it gives them an immediate replacement for Harper in Benintendi who could become a star over the years. You get Devers who some think won't play at 3B, he could be the eventual replacement at 2B. Then you get Groome who could be a mid rotation arm in a few years.

See, i dont see them giving up Benintendi. Especially for Harper. JBJ would be the outfielder theyd trade in my eyes but then Washington walks. Benintendi could match Harpers offensive contributions in my mind. I can see Beni hitting .290+ and 20-25 bombs a year consistently. Basically what Harper does, plus they keep White for the 1B vacancy theyll need soon themselves

[MrSerendipity]

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See, i dont see them giving up Benintendi. Especially for Harper. JBJ would be the outfielder theyd trade in my eyes but then Washington walks. Benintendi could match Harpers offensive contributions in my mind. I can see Beni hitting .290+ and 20-25 bombs a year consistently. Basically what Harper does, plus they keep White for the 1B vacancy theyll need soon themselves

Yeah I think that would be a tough pill to swallow for Boston but that is what it would take. The two positives I can see in this trade for Boston though.

1.) A Red Sox Harper jersey immediately becomes the best selling jersey in baseball.

2.) It keeps him out of New York and makes the $$ bid easier for Boston.

But yeah, I agree that Boston would likely be better off not making the deal.

[kenp86]

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Yeah I think that would be a tough pill to swallow for Boston but that is what it would take. The two positives I can see in this trade for Boston though.

1.) A Red Sox Harper jersey immediately becomes the best selling jersey in baseball.

2.) It keeps him out of New York and makes the $$ bid easier for Boston.

But yeah, I agree that Boston would likely be better off not making the deal.

Id see them moving X before Beni honestly. Harper in Boston with that right field would be deadly. But Harper in NY with their softball porch in right could be historic with his power then maybe move a JBJ for pitching/BP help

[GamecocksLaw17]

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See, i dont see them giving up Benintendi. Especially for Harper. JBJ would be the outfielder theyd trade in my eyes but then Washington walks. Benintendi could match Harpers offensive contributions in my mind. I can see Beni hitting .290+ and 20-25 bombs a year consistently. Basically what Harper does, plus they keep White for the 1B vacancy theyll need soon themselves

Benintindi is a hell of a player but I don't see him putting up a 170+ wRC+ anytime soon

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[rtwilli4]

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I think both Harper and Machado stay on their respective teams until free agency.

Orioles probably should trade Machado but they won't.. they'll keep him, win 85 games per year until everyone leaves and then they'll be terrible. It's a shame.

Washington will keep Harper because they have a legitimate shot at resigning him. I honestly think if they do well in the post season this year and don't fall off a cliff in 2018 then he could be a National for life.




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[kenp86]

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I think both Harper and Machado stay on their respective teams until free agency.

Orioles probably should trade Machado but they won't.. they'll keep him, win 85 games per year until everyone leaves and then they'll be terrible. It's a shame.

Washington will keep Harper because they have a legitimate shot at resigning him. I honestly think if they do well in the post season this year and don't fall off a cliff in 2018 then he could be a National for life.




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Think Harper is gone regardless of what they do. Wants the money and big city lifestyle

[MrSerendipity]

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Yeah, I would be willing to give up Villar. Was just trying to think of a fair trade for Profar. For some reason I really like Profar. I don't know why, I just do�� What about a package around Braun & Guerra or Villar. When I simmed the rest of the season, Darvish signs with another team. So maybe they would like Guerra, who is having a good season. Also, I really don't want to trade Brinson back. Thanks for the help!

How is Guerra pitching? If his ERA is below a 3.2, you could probably swing a deal like this:

MIL Receives
Jurickson Profar
Cole Ragans
Collin Wiles

TEX Receives
Junior Guerra
Mauricio Dubon

If you're willing to deal Villar, I think something like this could potentially work but I want further confirmation from Gamecock, Hampshire, Bard, kenp or whomever before we decide it's a fair deal.

MIL Receives
Leodys Taveras
Jurickson Profar
Ariel Jurado
Cole Ragans
Andy Ibanez

Tex Receives
Jonathan Villar
Junior Guerra

[MrSerendipity]

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Guerra has a 3.3 era & Villar is hitting .270 OBP of .342, SLG of .419 & OPS of .761

You could get away with doing the first deal then. If you're interested in moving Villar for more prospects, you could possibly do the 2nd deal. I think the question will be if Texas is giving you enough. As I'm a Texas fan, I think I've come up with something fair but we can wait for more confirmation on that deal.

[rtwilli4]

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Think Harper is gone regardless of what they do. Wants the money and big city lifestyle

That's the more likely outcome. But I have to think there is a part of him that wants to go to Boras and say "I'm king here man, and we're good now. Can't you just get me a record contract in Washington?"

It's not like he's in Oakland.


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