MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

[GamecocksLaw17]

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Does Biagini plus get me anywhere on that trade or not enough? Would Billy Hamlilton be cheaper if the reds are struggling or cost similarly?

Biagini gets you nowhere close. And Hamilton is costly even though he doesn't hit. He's a 3+ WAR guy on defense and baserunning alone. Biagini + wouldn't even work for him unless the plus was real legit

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[Kahler77]

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Biagini gets you nowhere close. And Hamilton is costly even though he doesn't hit. He's a 3+ WAR guy on defense and baserunning alone. Biagini + wouldn't even work for him unless the plus was real legit

Okay yah I figured that wouldnt do it. So for Hamilton you looking at stroman or sanchez again then I assume? Another Guy who strade value I know is nowhere near as high is Delino Deshields, what does a trade for him look like? Would Liriano if pitching well fetch me Deshields or Deshields +? I know the astros just gave up Aoki and Teoscar Hernandez for him.

[GamecocksLaw17]

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Okay yah I figured that wouldnt do it. So for Hamilton you looking at stroman or sanchez again then I assume? Another Guy who strade value I know is nowhere near as high is Delino Deshields, what does a trade for him look like? Would Liriano if pitching well fetch me Deshields or Deshields +? I know the astros just gave up Aoki and Teoscar Hernandez for him.

No you could use prospects for Hamilton

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[whbaseball51121]

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Okay yah I figured that wouldnt do it. So for Hamilton you looking at stroman or sanchez again then I assume? Another Guy who strade value I know is nowhere near as high is Delino Deshields, what does a trade for him look like? Would Liriano if pitching well fetch me Deshields or Deshields +? I know the astros just gave up Aoki and Teoscar Hernandez for him.

Depends on if Texas is in it. If they are and need pitching, then I could see Liriano for DeShields plus salary relief. He's not as valuable as Marte or Hamilton, but still a plus athlete who can handle CF and provide some offense. I don't think you'll get additional value with him for liriano, if anything you might have to add value or take a contract from them. The Jays got Hernandez for Liriano in real life by paying all of his salary and taking on Aoki, who isn't a positive asset but just salary relief for Houston. So think of a deal like that as opposed to garnering actual value along with DeShields.

[Trent Booty]

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Okay, I'm in year two, so I'll give some background info. I'm mainly looking for these kinds of responses:
"_________ is worth two C+ /B- prospects" or
"______is worth an A and a C"

- Jaime Garcia won a world series with the Yankees in 2017 and was pretty good down the stretch. He signed a 3-year, 20.7 million dollar deal (6.9 for three years) with the Padres for 2018-2020. He pitched in 210 innings in 2017 for the Twins and Yankees, and has already pitched 128 innings and a 2.53 ERA a bit after the all star break. The White Sox are 3 GB from the 2nd wildcard and need a starter as James Shields needs to be moved to the bullpen ASAP. What does it take to get it done? He has been good over the last year and a half, and has 2 1/2 years of control. I was thinking a B and C but would like your thoughts.

- Padres would also like to finally ship off Brand Hand at the deadline in 2018. Jose Torres is ready to become the closer in San Diego and I'm wondering what Brand Hand could net the rebuilding Padres. Basically working with any team is an option.

- Phillies have Jorge Alfaro ready to start raking in the big leagues as he's dominating AAA, what could the Phillies get for Cameron Rupp? He's posting pretty good power numbers and at the very least could fit nicely into a platoon with a left handed catcher. The White Sox desperately need a catcher as their best catcher is Kevan Smith, who is on the DL until September at the earliest.

- After Addison Russel was killed in a boating accident during the offseason (he had career ending injury), the Cubs have mainly played Zobrist at SS. Javier Baez is out until September, and the Cubs don't really have middle infielders as Ian Happ is the full-time CF. Freddy Galvis has been an all star in both 2017 and 2018 due to his high play. What do the Cubs give for him?

- Yonder Alonso had his best year in 2017, as he was an all star and hit more than 10 HR for the first time in his career (18). Now halfway through 2018 and he has 8, which could give him another 15+ home run year. Meanwhile, The Dodgers have Adrian Gonzales out for the year and while 2017 ROY runner up Cody Bellinger has been good at 1B, getting another 1B would allow him to move back to LF. What would it take to get Alonso to the Dodgers?

Edit: What about Matt Kemp to the Angels? a year and a half left on his contract, can play LF in LA until Pujols retires and then Cron can play 1B and Kemp can be full time DH...

Hoping to get these answered as I'm at the deadline and these are the last guys I wanna sell off.

[millertime98]

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Keep in mind that I love to rebuild teams by making realistic trades that don't net me a top fifty guy at every position...

- I think you're spot on with Garcia, a low B and C.
- If Hand is dominant he could get a B or two but if not then I think a C. The only speicalists to get big prospects are Andrew Miller type guys who are multiple innings and strike everyone out.
- I wouldn't think Rupp would get more than a C or two and probaly guys that will take a few years.
- Galvis could get a decent prospect though. He is young-ish and a good fielder so a team with a need would really pay for that. Probably not a high B but maybe an A ball buy
- If the Dodgers need OF help and moving Bellinger out there would improve them (rather than trading for an OF bat) then Alonso probably nets two AA prospects with C potential.
- I think Kemp or Braun would make sense in LAA. Braun is a Cali guy, I belive. They like to make a splash and take on big money. If this game only had the ability to pay for part of a contract it'd be a no brainer!

[millertime98]

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I am in year two of an Atlanta rebuild. I have Teheran 27-89-B and he is 9-7 with a 2.20 era with a few starts left before the deadline. He last two starts are both CG shutouts (sim) with 27 K combined.
He is making $9 M this year and is under control for 2 more at just over $10 M per.

The Yankees are in first by 3 gm in a bad AL East. If I send him there the worst SP to be bumped from the rotation would be Loriano but he is their only LHSP.
On trade suggestions for prospects they offer
SP Chance Adams 23-72-B + 1B Austin 26-66-A (.205 for NYY) + RF Cox 18-49-A who is their first round pick and in A ball

The Red Sox are in third but just 4 gm back. They have all LHSP including one RP in there. So they could use a RHSP and a good, young one at that. They don't offer much on the trade suggestions (none when searching for prospects).

The Dodgers are 7 games up but have Maeda on the DL and only 1 RHSP, McCartney who is decent in just 20 ip.
They offer SP Buehler 21-70-B TOP 50 (30) +B+C
I was thinking him and Verdugo 21-68-B TOP 50 (39)
The trade value is slightly in my favor. While I don't like just loading up on TOP 50 guys, they are both B level players right now and prospects are always iffy.
SInce Teheran is dominating. under control for 2+ years, and Maeda is on the DL until September I think it is fair and realistic.

Which one of these would you do?
I want to strike while the iron is hot with Teheran and not wait until he is in the final year of his deal.
Thanks

[Beastboy2335]

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Woundering what it would take to bring an average hitting cespedes from a struggling mets squad to Seattle any thoughts?

Kyle Lewis plus a contract plus maybe a struggling prospect like Vogelbach

[whbaseball51121]

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I am in year two of an Atlanta rebuild. I have Teheran 27-89-B and he is 9-7 with a 2.20 era with a few starts left before the deadline. He last two starts are both CG shutouts (sim) with 27 K combined.
He is making $9 M this year and is under control for 2 more at just over $10 M per.

The Yankees are in first by 3 gm in a bad AL East. If I send him there the worst SP to be bumped from the rotation would be Loriano but he is their only LHSP.
On trade suggestions for prospects they offer
SP Chance Adams 23-72-B + 1B Austin 26-66-A (.205 for NYY) + RF Cox 18-49-A who is their first round pick and in A ball

The Red Sox are in third but just 4 gm back. They have all LHSP including one RP in there. So they could use a RHSP and a good, young one at that. They don't offer much on the trade suggestions (none when searching for prospects).

The Dodgers are 7 games up but have Maeda on the DL and only 1 RHSP, McCartney who is decent in just 20 ip.
They offer SP Buehler 21-70-B TOP 50 (30) +B+C
I was thinking him and Verdugo 21-68-B TOP 50 (39)
The trade value is slightly in my favor. While I don't like just loading up on TOP 50 guys, they are both B level players right now and prospects are always iffy.
SInce Teheran is dominating. under control for 2+ years, and Maeda is on the DL until September I think it is fair and realistic.

Which one of these would you do?
I want to strike while the iron is hot with Teheran and not wait until he is in the final year of his deal.
Thanks

Good as Teheran has been, I really don't see the Dodgers giving up Buehler and Verdugo for Teheran. I think they could get a better pitcher if they were inclined to deal them, which all indications are they are not. He's not nearly as good as Quintana and has one less year of control, so I think you'd be looking at a lesser return than Jimenez/Cease/2 Fringe guys, so I think one of those two might be realistic but not both considering it sounds like they wouldn't move them for gray, Q, or Darvish. Adams/Austin/other guy sounds okay if a bit favoring you.

[whbaseball51121]

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Kyle Lewis plus a contract plus maybe a struggling prospect like Vogelbach

This seems light to me. Offsetting the contract a bit makes sense but I think if you're sending them a bad contract you'd need more prospect value in the deal too. Maybe like one of Moore/Povse/Neidart too?

[bailey4mvp]

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I am using the Giants (Bout to post in the franchise section) Currently sitting at 31-25 just after the MLB Draft.

I really need some power in the outfield, Pence is hitting well but Parker is hitting .222/.260/.303 with 6 HR and 16 RBI.

Im looking at a few players and here are the teams and records that i am targeting players from, i am also looking at bolstering my Bullpen.

Some ideas on what it would cost me to acquire some of these guys would be amazing.

Tampa Bay (24-33)
RP Brad Boxberger (2-1, 6.28 ERA, 1.81 WHIP)
OF Colby Rasmus (.220/.293/.313, 3 HR, 16 RBI), Steven Souza Jr (.211/.279/.367, 7 HR, 23 RBI)

Baltimore (20-34)
SP Wade Miley (2-7, 5.02 ERA, 1.48 WHIP)
RP Darren O'Day (0-1, 6.75 RA, 2.25 WHIP)
UTL Pedro Alvarez (.230/.336/.416, 12 HR, 26 RBI)
OF Mark Trumbo (.249/.301/.537, 17 HR, 30 RBI), Adam Jones (.201/.230/364, 7 HR, 21 RBI)

White Sox (23-31)
RP Tommy Kahnle (0-1, 3.48 ERA, 1.40 ERA)
OF Melky Cabrera (.274/.329/.426, 5 HR, 16 RBI), Avisail Garcia (.265/.339/.441, 8 HR, 21 RBI)

Texas (25-30)
SP Tyson Ross (1-4, 5.50 ERA 1.57 WHIP)
RP Jeremy Jeffress (5-0, 5.17 ERA, 1.66 WHIP), Jake Diekman (32, 1.63 ERA, 1.37 WHIP)
UTL Jurickson Profar (.272/.331/.429, 4 HR, 24 RBI), OF Carlos Gomez (.180/.243/..307, 4 HR, 23 RBI)

Oakland (25-30)
SP Sonny Gray (4-5, 4.63 ERA, 1.60 WHIP)
RP Sean Doolittle (2-1, 0.79 ERA, 0.97 WHIP)
OF Khris Davis (.237/.291/.535, 18 HR, 40 RBI)

San Diego (15-42)
SP Trevor Cahill (3-6, 4.73 ERA, 1.55 WHIP)
RP Ryan Butcher (1-2, 3.77 ERA, 1,40 WHIP), Carter Capps (1-2, 3.00 ERA, 1.00 WHIP)
OF Jabari Bush (.290/.371/.645, 3 HR, 7 RBI)

Colorado (23-34)
RP Jake McGee (1-0, 0.73 ERA, 1.18 WHIP)
OF Carlos Gonzalez (.274/.373/.387, 3 HR, 21 RBI)

[whbaseball51121]

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I am using the Giants (Bout to post in the franchise section) Currently sitting at 31-25 just after the MLB Draft.

I really need some power in the outfield, Pence is hitting well but Parker is hitting .222/.260/.303 with 6 HR and 16 RBI.

Im looking at a few players and here are the teams and records that i am targeting players from, i am also looking at bolstering my Bullpen.

Some ideas on what it would cost me to acquire some of these guys would be amazing.

Tampa Bay (24-33)
RP Brad Boxberger (2-1, 6.28 ERA, 1.81 WHIP)
OF Colby Rasmus (.220/.293/.313, 3 HR, 16 RBI), Steven Souza Jr (.211/.279/.367, 7 HR, 23 RBI)

Baltimore (20-34)
SP Wade Miley (2-7, 5.02 ERA, 1.48 WHIP)
RP Darren O'Day (0-1, 6.75 RA, 2.25 WHIP)
UTL Pedro Alvarez (.230/.336/.416, 12 HR, 26 RBI)
OF Mark Trumbo (.249/.301/.537, 17 HR, 30 RBI), Adam Jones (.201/.230/364, 7 HR, 21 RBI)

White Sox (23-31)
RP Tommy Kahnle (0-1, 3.48 ERA, 1.40 ERA)
OF Melky Cabrera (.274/.329/.426, 5 HR, 16 RBI), Avisail Garcia (.265/.339/.441, 8 HR, 21 RBI)

Texas (25-30)
SP Tyson Ross (1-4, 5.50 ERA 1.57 WHIP)
RP Jeremy Jeffress (5-0, 5.17 ERA, 1.66 WHIP), Jake Diekman (32, 1.63 ERA, 1.37 WHIP)
UTL Jurickson Profar (.272/.331/.429, 4 HR, 24 RBI), OF Carlos Gomez (.180/.243/..307, 4 HR, 23 RBI)

Oakland (25-30)
SP Sonny Gray (4-5, 4.63 ERA, 1.60 WHIP)
RP Sean Doolittle (2-1, 0.79 ERA, 0.97 WHIP)
OF Khris Davis (.237/.291/.535, 18 HR, 40 RBI)

San Diego (15-42)
SP Trevor Cahill (3-6, 4.73 ERA, 1.55 WHIP)
RP Ryan Butcher (1-2, 3.77 ERA, 1,40 WHIP), Carter Capps (1-2, 3.00 ERA, 1.00 WHIP)
OF Jabari Bush (.290/.371/.645, 3 HR, 7 RBI)

Colorado (23-34)
RP Jake McGee (1-0, 0.73 ERA, 1.18 WHIP)
OF Carlos Gonzalez (.274/.373/.387, 3 HR, 21 RBI)

I mean just look at what Gray, Doolittle, Jeffress, Kahnle, Buchter, Cahill, Cabrera and Miley last year were actually dealt for. You don't have enough to get Gray. Don't see why SD trades Blash unless you overpay. BAL wouldn't trade Trumbo in year 1 of the deal they just signed him to, Alvarez is a DH so I don't think you'd want him. CarGo use the Cespedes deal a few years ago and JD this year as a base. Maybe something like Beede, Andrew Suarez and Hinojosa? I used that for a LoCain deal in my franchise. I wouldn't see most of the guys who are scuffling (O'Day, Boxberger, Gomez, Ross) being moved this early until they rebuild some value. I don't think TEX trades Profar if he's hitting unless you give serious value.

[bailey4mvp]

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I mean just look at what Gray, Doolittle, Jeffress, Kahnle, Buchter, Cahill, Cabrera and Miley last year were actually dealt for. You don't have enough to get Gray. Don't see why SD trades Blash unless you overpay. BAL wouldn't trade Trumbo in year 1 of the deal they just signed him to, Alvarez is a DH so I don't think you'd want him. CarGo use the Cespedes deal a few years ago and JD this year as a base. Maybe something like Beede, Andrew Suarez and Hinojosa? I used that for a LoCain deal in my franchise. I wouldn't see most of the guys who are scuffling (O'Day, Boxberger, Gomez, Ross) being moved this early until they rebuild some value. I don't think TEX trades Profar if he's hitting unless you give serious value.

Thanks for the info man.

If I was to go after the guys that are struggling what would it take?


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[whbaseball51121]

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Thanks for the info man.

If I was to go after the guys that are struggling what would it take?


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Probably not that that much. Jeffress went for like a C/C- prospect, a few years ago Grilli and Frieri got traded for one another. Someone from the Johnson/Moronta/Krook/Crick/Coonrod group plus a lower C prospect might be a fair return for one of the better, struggling RP's.

[millertime98]

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Good as Teheran has been, I really don't see the Dodgers giving up Buehler and Verdugo for Teheran. I think they could get a better pitcher if they were inclined to deal them, which all indications are they are not. He's not nearly as good as Quintana and has one less year of control, so I think you'd be looking at a lesser return than Jimenez/Cease/2 Fringe guys, so I think one of those two might be realistic but not both considering it sounds like they wouldn't move them for gray, Q, or Darvish. Adams/Austin/other guy sounds okay if a bit favoring you.

I agree. Both are too much. There aren't any other SP available from bad teams but with the Dodgers record and comfortable lead combined with Maeda coming off the dl in time for the playoffs I'll try another team or different deal.