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  • Bard
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    • Oct 2010
    • 7803

    #391
    Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by GamecocksLaw17
    You need to get something like Rosario, Smith, Lugo and Matz for Pollack and Goldschmidt. There would have to be at least one of the great Mets young pitchers

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    I still feel like that is too light, those two have a lot of value. The Mets could make this deal but it would cost a bit more. Conforto + added in.

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    • GamecocksLaw17
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      • Jun 2015
      • 1503

      #392
      Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by Bard
      I still feel like that is too light, those two have a lot of value. The Mets could make this deal but it would cost a bit more. Conforto + added in.

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      Oh I completely forgot about Conforto. And with Lugo having a partial UCL year I think you are right. Add Conforto to the 4 I said and if you feel bad about that just drop Dom Smith

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      • Still2REal
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        • Jun 2010
        • 370

        #393
        Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

        never underestimate bust potential and pitcher injuries on prospects... I didn't take Conforto because he would take over after Granderson leaves this year. Make it more palatable for the Mets.

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        • Bard
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          • Oct 2010
          • 7803

          #394
          Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by Still2REal
          never underestimate bust potential and pitcher injuries on prospects... I didn't take Conforto because he would take over after Granderson leaves this year. Make it more palatable for the Mets.
          They're getting AJ, you can get Conforto. Have to give to get.

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          • kenp86
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            • May 2008
            • 2979

            #395
            Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

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            • Buehrle56
              Rookie
              • Jan 2012
              • 59

              #396
              Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

              So i'm thinking of doin these trades, yall wanna tell me if they seem good. (I do 30 Team control)

              Starlin Castro to San Diego for P Jacob Nix & SS Jose Rondon
              Ryan Braun to LAD for Trayce Thompson/Andrew Toles, Austin Barnes, Walker Buehler
              (In a Royals sell situation) Mike Moustakas to STL for Luke Weaver & Paul Dejong
              David Robertson to ARI for Yasmany Tomas
              Sean Doolittle to PIT for OF Jose Osuna, SP Nick Kingman, 2B Alec Hanson
              2017 offseason deal: Jake Odorizzi to Cubs for 2B Ian Happ, 1B Jeimer Candelario, SP Trevor Clifton

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              • redsoxfan31
                MVP
                • Nov 2013
                • 1047

                #397
                Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                Would a guy like Verlander cost a lot to get mid-season? I will be playing as the Red Sox and can envision needing to upgrade the rotation but don't want to give up major prospects to do so, didn't know if Verlander's contract would help me in this case
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                • babybombers
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                  • Apr 2017
                  • 146

                  #398
                  Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                  What kind of value does Brantley have?

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                  • PadresWS2022
                    Rookie
                    • Mar 2017
                    • 8

                    #399
                    Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by Buehrle56
                    So i'm thinking of doin these trades, yall wanna tell me if they seem good. (I do 30 Team control)

                    Starlin Castro to San Diego for P Jacob Nix & SS Jose Rondon
                    Ryan Braun to LAD for Trayce Thompson/Andrew Toles, Austin Barnes, Walker Buehler
                    (In a Royals sell situation) Mike Moustakas to STL for Luke Weaver & Paul Dejong
                    David Robertson to ARI for Yasmany Tomas
                    Sean Doolittle to PIT for OF Jose Osuna, SP Nick Kingman, 2B Alec Hanson
                    2017 offseason deal: Jake Odorizzi to Cubs for 2B Ian Happ, 1B Jeimer Candelario, SP Trevor Clifton
                    Not sure about the rest but the Padres would not do that deal. They don't need a second baseman and wouldn't use Castro at shortstop, too many errors. They're building for the future and see Nix as a part of that future. They won't trade prospects for veteran pieces.

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                    • bestbrother
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                      • Sep 2015
                      • 773

                      #400
                      Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                      If you are trading for Trout, do you swallow the Pujols contract to try and sweeten it for the Angels?

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                      • GamecocksLaw17
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                        • Jun 2015
                        • 1503

                        #401
                        Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by bestbrother
                        If you are trading for Trout, do you swallow the Pujols contract to try and sweeten it for the Angels?
                        So both Trout and Pujols have full no-trade clauses. But lets look at it anyways. Pujols has $140 million left on his deal and he's around a 1 WAR player now. So he is a -$95 million dollar "asset". That would make you think you could tack him onto Trout and get him cheap. But thats before you go in deep on how valuable Trout is.

                        Trout is still owed $118.8 million over the next 4 years. His career average is slightly over a 9 WAR players, so I'll use that total. 9WAR x 4Seasons x$9Million = $324 million in value. Minus his $118.8 million owed. So Trout still has a surplus value of $205.2 Which leads us to see what the value of getting Trout and Pujols.

                        $205.2 (Trout's value) minus $95(Pujols' negative worth) Still leave the team trading for that pair to give up $110 million dollars in prospects while taking on $258.8 million dollars in salary over the next 5 years. Good luck finding a team that can handle that sort of salary commitment and has the prospects to make it happen.
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                        • Calum34
                          Rookie
                          • Mar 2014
                          • 29

                          #402
                          Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by bestbrother
                          If you are trading for Trout, do you swallow the Pujols contract to try and sweeten it for the Angels?
                          Realistically, you're never trading for Trout. Fivethirtyeight showed why it was mathematically impossible for the Angels to recoup value on a trade for him: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...r-the-g-o-a-t/

                          If you're not worried about realism, then I can't even begin to imagine what a Trout trade would look like but it would be a lot, taking Pujols off their hands would certainly help. What team are you?

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                          • MrSerendipity
                            MVP
                            • Jun 2013
                            • 1397

                            #403
                            Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by GamecocksLaw17
                            So both Trout and Pujols have full no-trade clauses. But lets look at it anyways. Pujols has $140 million left on his deal and he's around a 1 WAR player now. So he is a -$95 million dollar "asset". That would make you think you could tack him onto Trout and get him cheap. But thats before you go in deep on how valuable Trout is.

                            Trout is still owed $118.8 million over the next 4 years. His career average is slightly over a 9 WAR players, so I'll use that total. 9WAR x 4Seasons x$9Million = $324 million in value. Minus his $118.8 million owed. So Trout still has a surplus value of $205.2 Which leads us to see what the value of getting Trout and Pujols.

                            $205.2 (Trout's value) minus $95(Pujols' negative worth) Still leave the team trading for that pair to give up $110 million dollars in prospects while taking on $258.8 million dollars in salary over the next 5 years. Good luck finding a team that can handle that sort of salary commitment and has the prospects to make it happen.
                            Dude, you bring such great value to this thread.

                            Originally posted by Calum34
                            Realistically, you're never trading for Trout. Fivethirtyeight showed why it was mathematically impossible for the Angels to recoup value on a trade for him: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...r-the-g-o-a-t/

                            If you're not worried about realism, then I can't even begin to imagine what a Trout trade would look like but it would be a lot, taking Pujols off their hands would certainly help. What team are you?
                            This. There is no realistic scenario in which you're trading for Trout. Unless you have dealt everyone else of value on your team for top-end prospects and then you're dealing all of those prospects for Trout (which at this point, what is the point?), there is no realistic option. Now it's your game so you could do whatever deal you like if you really just want to have Trout on your squad, it just won't be realistic.
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                            • Buccosback
                              Rookie
                              • Apr 2015
                              • 255

                              #404
                              Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                              I started a pirates franchise to just see what I might do, i made some moves and ended up with 94 wins. I actually held on to cutch and signed him to a 6yr/$63million contract in the offseason. I don't remember the trades but I'll post them whenever i have a chance.

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                              • The Left Shark
                                Rookie
                                • Mar 2015
                                • 461

                                #405
                                Re: MLB 17 Trade Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by Buccosback
                                I started a pirates franchise to just see what I might do, i made some moves and ended up with 94 wins. I actually held on to cutch and signed him to a 6yr/$63million contract in the offseason. I don't remember the trades but I'll post them whenever i have a chance.
                                At that point, trade Meadows as a center piece for Quintana. Boom. Profit.

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