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  • Ruffy
    MVP
    • Feb 2008
    • 1516

    #256
    Re: Too many HR's?

    Originally posted by Blzer
    I just don't know how/why we're blaming the wind at all. You know games where the wind is strongly blowing out and can assist its carry? It can also blow in and destroy its carry.

    I suppose if you want to reduce home runs, look at the wind's direction in every game. Lower it if it's blowing out, and raise it if it's blowing in. Boom.
    I can't mess with mother nature on a game by game basis......too much power for this soul.....the ramifications could be catastrophic! :wink:
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    • Blzer
      Resident film pundit
      • Mar 2004
      • 42519

      #257
      Re: Too many HR's?

      Originally posted by Ruffy
      I can't mess with mother nature on a game by game basis......too much power for this soul.....the ramifications could be catastrophic! :wink:
      That's why I think it's best not to worry about it. Wind works as it always has, only now these backspin fly balls float up with no such balancing acts in play.
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      • Ruffy
        MVP
        • Feb 2008
        • 1516

        #258
        Re: Too many HR's?

        Too many HR's are happening.

        <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/WA8KG9Au2uk" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

        Whoops that was real......

        But I do agree having played 200 plus MLB Show games in 15 and 16 that something is off with the HR's.
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        • Armor and Sword
          The Lama
          • Sep 2010
          • 21793

          #259
          Re: Too many HR's?

          Originally posted by bcruise
          No, and I likely won't for a while (especially because I'll be setting the game aside for a new release tonight). It's definitely having an effect on my ability to make solid contact, but I can still hit the ball out of the ballpark too. I think there's an answer in there somewhere, but it'll take time to figure it out (and that's just for my own skill level, not even trying to consider anyone else's)

          It doesn't seem to have a whole lot of impact on the CPU's ability to barrel, though. I saw one of the more absurd HR's I've seen this year with contact = 3 just now:

          <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/ORCW2WLIp24" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

          27 power Nori Aoki, folks. 11 mph tailwind too, but that still shouldn't be possible.


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          • Armor and Sword
            The Lama
            • Sep 2010
            • 21793

            #260
            Re: Too many HR's?

            Originally posted by Ruffy
            Too many HR's are happening.

            <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/WA8KG9Au2uk" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

            Whoops that was real......

            But I do agree having played 200 plus MLB Show games in 15 and 16 that something is off with the HR's.
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            • RLB
              Rookie
              • Feb 2016
              • 147

              #261
              Re: Too many HR's?

              I would suggest getting Nori tested for PEDs.......good lord what a bomb.

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              • fanofbaseball
                Rookie
                • Apr 2017
                • 65

                #262
                Re: Too many HR's?

                Previously in this thread I stated I also wanted a sim baseball experience but had a differing opinion on how to achieve it.

                After reading the posts since and re-reading the posts before it, I have realized I do not share the same definition of sim baseball and some of you have a definition of baseball that hasn't existed for a couple decades.

                Individuals are promoting sliders that produce .5 to .7 HR's per game, which ranges from unrealistic to the worst power hitting teams over the last ten years.

                A sim baseball experience should produce an average of approximately two HR's per game.

                Given the number of players and the range in experience/skill levels, it should be expected that even a sim video game produces results outside that norm. As such, the denigration of the devs and the "casual" players is BS.

                Even the "casual" players should be deserving of a sim experience. They're not going to adjust sliders, but you, the "hardcore purist", will. Additionally it should be considered that were it not for the "casual" players there would not be a game or should there be a game it wouldn't be of nearly the same quality.

                Restating what I said in my previous post, if you're giving up too many HR's, the problem is that you need to improve your pitching strategy and/or mastery of the input controls. And if you're hitting too many HR's, bump up a level. Baseball players make adjustments.

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                • fanofbaseball
                  Rookie
                  • Apr 2017
                  • 65

                  #263
                  Re: Too many HR's?

                  Originally posted by fanofbaseball
                  Previously in this thread I stated I also wanted a sim baseball experience but had a differing opinion on how to achieve it.

                  After reading the posts since and re-reading the posts before it, I have realized I do not share the same definition of sim baseball and some of you have a definition of baseball that hasn't existed for a couple decades.

                  Individuals are promoting sliders that produce .5 to .7 HR's per game, which ranges from unrealistic to the worst power hitting teams over the last ten years.

                  A sim baseball experience should produce an average of approximately two HR's per game.

                  Given the number of players and the range in experience/skill levels, it should be expected that even a sim video game produces results outside that norm. As such, the denigration of the devs and the "casual" players is BS.

                  Even the "casual" players should be deserving of a sim experience. They're not going to adjust sliders, but you, the "hardcore purist", will. Additionally it should be considered that were it not for the "casual" players there would not be a game or should there be a game it wouldn't be of nearly the same quality.

                  Restating what I said in my previous post, if you're giving up too many HR's, the problem is that you need to improve your pitching strategy and/or mastery of the input controls. And if you're hitting too many HR's, bump up a level. Baseball players make adjustments.
                  To clarify my post, I quoted a single team HR stat alongside a stat for both teams. The two HR per game stat is inclusive of both teams.

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                  • RLB
                    Rookie
                    • Feb 2016
                    • 147

                    #264
                    Re: Too many HR's?

                    I just finished spring training and the stats look good for the final spring numbers. Baltimore led with 46 HRs. Cubs .281 Ave. Dodgers 3.01 ERA.

                    In my opinion good solid numbers on the computer generated side. As for my Cardinals my pitching was very solid but as normal, I lacked some at that plate.

                    I settled on HOF on hitting, pitching and fielding. I'm using directional as a timing mode but I am not convinced that the players attributes are really controlling the PCI. I cannot seem to find anything that actually shows the contact of the ball on the bat. Does anyone know where to find that?

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                    • slipkid75
                      Rookie
                      • Apr 2017
                      • 13

                      #265
                      Re: Too many HR's?

                      I feel it's been that way the last couple of years


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                      • RicoLaguna
                        Rookie
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 349

                        #266
                        Re: Too many HR's?

                        There's definitely something off with this year's version of the game...it needs to be tweaked in a patch. I've lowered the following sliders for both CPU and HUMAN:

                        Contact
                        Timing
                        Power
                        Solid Hits


                        Balls are traveling far too deep too often on homers
                        And the kicker was last night I took a check swing and hit a line drive to right field off the wall. It felt like it should have went no further than to the first basemen. But the ball physics, gravity, etc is off somewhat

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                        • Ruben2424
                          Rookie
                          • Apr 2014
                          • 159

                          #267
                          Re: Too many HR's?

                          I saw this thread the other day and I was gonna comment on it but instead I chose to wait until after the first few Opening Day games to use as comparison and boy was it worth the wait! Look at the crazy number of HR's hit between yesterday and today! There have been at least 10+ HR's hit including 2 grand slams in 2 days! Bumgarner hit 2, Odor hit 2, Grandal hit 2 (one on each side of the plate)!

                          Some might see more HR's than others based on player skill and game difficulty but I think its safe to say that the game is pretty accurate!
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                          • bcruise
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 23274

                            #268
                            Re: Too many HR's?

                            Originally posted by RLB
                            I just finished spring training and the stats look good for the final spring numbers. Baltimore led with 46 HRs. Cubs .281 Ave. Dodgers 3.01 ERA.

                            In my opinion good solid numbers on the computer generated side. As for my Cardinals my pitching was very solid but as normal, I lacked some at that plate.

                            I settled on HOF on hitting, pitching and fielding. I'm using directional as a timing mode but I am not convinced that the players attributes are really controlling the PCI. I cannot seem to find anything that actually shows the contact of the ball on the bat. Does anyone know where to find that?
                            Label_hitchance filter in the batter analysis can clue you in on where the pci was placed in directional hitting. I'll elaborate when i get home - tough to explain on my phone.

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                            • fanofbaseball
                              Rookie
                              • Apr 2017
                              • 65

                              #269
                              Re: Too many HR's?

                              Originally posted by RicoLaguna
                              There's definitely something off with this year's version of the game...it needs to be tweaked in a patch. I've lowered the following sliders for both CPU and HUMAN:

                              Contact
                              Timing
                              Power
                              Solid Hits


                              Balls are traveling far too deep too often on homers
                              And the kicker was last night I took a check swing and hit a line drive to right field off the wall. It felt like it should have went no further than to the first basemen. But the ball physics, gravity, etc is off somewhat
                              On the surface, a check swing off the wall isn't unprecedented. However it does require a strong individual, so I'm assuming it wasn't Aoki. If it was Aoki, I agree there is a problem, but if it was an individual with demonstrated power, then I tip my cap to the devs for realism.

                              For what it's worth, in college, I hit a piss rod check swing line drive directly to the left fielder. I'm was nothing more than the prototypical middle infielder with gap power. Thus, based simply on personal experience, I wouldn't be surprised if someone bigger and stronger actually hit it off the wall.

                              Fortunately, you don't have to rely on my personal experience or conjectures as similar occurrences have actually happened in MLB. Search hard enough and I'm certain you can find some video footage.

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                              • sportsnut599
                                Rookie
                                • Mar 2011
                                • 30

                                #270
                                Re: Too many HR's?

                                have anybody try classic pitching i been trying it out i only gave up 2 homeruns in 4 games only 1 have gone over 400 ft and i play play on hof

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