CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

[ktd1976]

Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

This exactly. I am actually worried that a patch will screw the game up. For me this is the best it has ever been. I hope the Developers don't take the steps to follow a loud but vocal minority and change the game for the worse. I have actually turned off auto downloads just so I don't automatically get a patch and can keep the game as it is.

Ok, but judging from this thread, (and on Theshownation forums) it is the minority that AREN'T having issues. The MAJORITY of people are in fact having issues with starters being removed too soon, and relievers being left in to get shelled for 3 plus innings (even short releivers)

[underdog13]

Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

I hope the Developers don't take the steps to follow a loud but vocal minority and change the game for the worse.

I'm not sure how you came to the that conclusion. This thread has 300 replies by many different users.

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[ktd1976]

Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

I'm not sure how you came to the that conclusion. This thread has 300 replies by many different users.

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Exactly. And look over at theshownation forums. From what I have seen, many more people are having issues with the SP logic, than those that are having good experiences.

[bcruise]

Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

Exactly. And look over at theshownation forums. From what I have seen, many more people are having issues with the SP logic, than those that are having good experiences.

It's natural to be more vocal when you're having issues than when you're not.
Most of the people that aren't are probably too busy playing the game.

Not to mention this forum and show nation are a drop in the bucket of the entire playerbase.

[ktd1976]

Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

It's natural to be more vocal when you're having issues than when you're not.
Most of the people that aren't are probably too busy playing the game.

Not to mention this forum and show nation are a drop in the bucket of the entire playerbase.

I agree about those two forums being a drop in the bucket. But, think of this. How many players are having issues, but just don't know where to mention them. Maybe they don't know about these forums, or where to report things.

While I respect the fact that you are having a good experience with the game, many many of us aren't, for this reason.

On a side note, to those of you who are seeing realistic pitcher management from the CPU what slider settings are you using for starter stamina, and cpu pitcher hook?

[bcruise]

Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

I agree about those two forums being a drop in the bucket. But, think of this. How many players are having issues, but just don't know where to mention them. Maybe they don't know about these forums, or where to report things.

While I respect the fact that you are having a good experience with the game, many many of us aren't, for this reason.

On a side note, to those of you who are seeing realistic pitcher management from the CPU what slider settings are you using for starter stamina, and cpu pitcher hook?

Can you say definitively that these forums are representative of the entire playerbase, including the ones that don't know about these forums? I doubt it.

SCEA can determine this with the data they collect from games (and I don't just mean online ones). They can see the numbers coming in, and they'll adjust things if they see a need to. Not based on what a bunch of loud people on a message board say (although that at least gives them an idea of what to look out for).

I haven't really messed with the stamina and hook settings at all. Believe me or don't - I posted a video earlier in the thread that showed over 100 pitches into the 7th and the sliders I was using at the time, and that's very representative of the games I've been seeing. Every screenshot I've posted in this thread have been with those same stamina/hook settings.

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...3&postcount=48

In any case, I'm about done with this thread too. When people want to start creating strawmans they aren't interested in an actual discussion anymore. (not you in particular).

Have fun guys. Hope for all our sakes that SCEA finds a workable solution for everyone.

[Bullit]

Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

I'm not sure how you came to the that conclusion. This thread has 300 replies by many different users.

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300 replies yes. But many and I mean many of you have posted more than once, all saying the same things. So if you count the actual number of people posting it really is the minority I assure you. The numbers simply don't lie. Good example is you have 15k+ views and only 300 replies.

But what is most bothering is that many users have come in and tried to help figure out what/if anything is going on. Yet they are always shouted down and just simply ignored when their view is different that your supposed "majority".

[ktd1976]

Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

Can you say definitively that these forums are representative of the entire playerbase, including the ones that don't know about these forums? I doubt it.

SCEA can determine this with the data they collect from games (and I don't just mean online ones). They can see the numbers coming in, and they'll adjust things if they see a need to. Not based on what a bunch of loud people on a message board say (although that at least gives them an idea of what to look out for).

I haven't really messed with the stamina and hook settings at all. Believe me or don't - I posted a video earlier in the thread that showed over 100 pitches into the 7th and the sliders I was using at the time, and that's very representative of the games I've been seeing. Every screenshot I've posted in this thread have been with those same stamina/hook settings.

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...3&postcount=48

In any case, I'm about done with this thread too. When people want to start creating strawmans they aren't interested in an actual discussion anymore. (not you in particular).

Have fun guys. Hope for all our sakes that SCEA finds a workable solution for everyone.

I get what you are saying. But, my experience is vastly different. Normally, I am very very good at working the count. But, there are games where the CPU pitcher just dominates through 6 innings, and has a low pitch count (around 80 pitches) and is STILL getting pulled to start the 7th.

I do not use quick counts, and I have YET to have a starter pitch into the 7th inning (even with low pitch counts)

Like I said, my last game, Jose Quintana went 6 innings, 1 run, and had a pitch count in the 70's, and didn't come out for the 7th inning in a 2-1 game.

[sfpxgalaxy]

Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

For those who think this is not an issue, can you check other teams boxscores (at least a dozen)?
I see a lot of early pitcher changes in those boxscores.

[Bullit]

Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

For those who think this is not an issue, can you check other teams boxscores (at least a dozen)?
I see a lot of early pitcher changes in those boxscores.

The box scores dont even tell part of the story, if you look at my earlier posts, all of these people just looking at box scores and not actually checking pitch counts, or game situations.

[sfpxgalaxy]

Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

Yes the boxscores don't tell the whole story but you can compare the average innings pitched by the starters to the ones IRL. Pretty sure it's a lot lower in MLBTS. I will try to compile some stats.

I still like the game a lot BTW.

[kehlis]

Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

I am so glad that a few of you are getting a good SP game NOW AND THEN. And Obviously you are not checking box scores of other games to see the constant inconsistency of the other games.



So many people have told you over and over and over about the SP issue, and because a few of you aren't seeing it or bothering to check box scores, you tell us there is no problem. UNBELIEVABLE.



Even I have had a couple of games that seemed logical. A COUPLE.. The majority have no logic at all . In another game I just played against Texas. Hammels has a 2 to 1 lead. he has only given up 4 hits, 1 walk, 6 ks. His energy bar in nearly full, His confidence bar is full blue. he finishes the 5th with no hits and 1 k.



As I am coming up to pitch, I hear them say Tex is getting there bullpen up. So I figure I will outsmart them. I turn on the other controller and go into their team and set the bullpen down. Thinking if they don't have anyone in the pen, they will leave him in. I put the controller back in the center.



At the top of the 6th, sure enough they pull him for no reason at all. And they put in a reliever that I just killed in the last game. He had given up 5 runs to me. Now anybody that knows anything at all about BB knows that is never gonna happen.



But it did and it does, over and over. And if you think that is not a problem, Once again, you either don't take Baseball serious, you don't check other game box scores, or you just like playing an arcade game.



How many different people does it take to tell you the same scenario over and over. Do you think they and we are just making it up.



So if you are lucky enough to have some good games, GOD BLESS YOU. But don't insult us telling us it's all good, because it simply is not. I said it before, if this wasn't an issue in 14, 15, and 16, then why is it now. Explain that one. BB hasn't changed that much in a year. Explain why some Pitchers are batting in the 7th spot, explain why they don't PH for them and then pull them anyway. Are any of you actually checking these things out.



So if you are satisfied with stupid and idiotic and unrealistic BB logic, Enjoy the game as it is. Myself and many others see that there is an issue that needs to be addressed and we are NOT satisfied and I hope they keep posting until we here something from the Devs and they acknowledge it one way or the other.

I'm tired of your passive aggressive attacks.

You pretend to try and have a mature conversation and even commended the board on having a good conversations and then throw in statements like "or you just like an arcade game."

You know that's not true.

Continue to discuss the issue all you want but the passive aggressive attacks end now.

Unlike in the past with other games with you, there will be no back and fourth between you and I on this.

I'm tired of having to tell you this once every three months.


Passive aggressive attacks end now. Last warning.

[miamikb2001]

Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

I agree about those two forums being a drop in the bucket. But, think of this. How many players are having issues, but just don't know where to mention them. Maybe they don't know about these forums, or where to report things.



While I respect the fact that you are having a good experience with the game, many many of us aren't, for this reason.



On a side note, to those of you who are seeing realistic pitcher management from the CPU what slider settings are you using for starter stamina, and cpu pitcher hook?

Starter Stamina 6 Cpu pitcher hook Zero until starter comes out and 5 after although thinking of bumping that up because i have seen some slight over use of relievers on occassion.


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[ktd1976]

Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

Starter Stamina 6 Cpu pitcher hook Zero until starter comes out and 5 after although thinking of bumping that up because i have seen some slight over use of relievers on occassion.


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I have starter stamina full, and cpu hook Zero, and have still yet to have a starter pitch into the 7th inning. Hmmmm

[miamikb2001]

Re: CPU SP problem (anyone else has it!?)

I have starter stamina full, and cpu hook Zero, and have still yet to have a starter pitch into the 7th inning. Hmmmm

I play only manager mode so maybe it works better in that mode.


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