MLB The Show 18 Won't Feature Online Franchise Mode

[HustlinOwl]

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Beyond disappointed by this decision! Is online play now still in the game? Need some sort of competitive experience other than DD when you come across the same lineups every game


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[Dolenz]

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That doesn't take away the fact that I have been a long time consumer of their product and expected to be treated a little bit better than I have over the last few yrs with this game.

I am always a little baffled over this type of sentiment. You are one of a million customers, many of whom have been just as loyal as you. Expecting a company to do right for you based on your loyalty to them is a fools game. They are a business and not a charity. They will go where the money is


It would be like me complaining to a network that I expected them to treat me better than to cancel my favorite show despite it's low ratings because I have watched every episode since day 1. They don't care.


And franchise players may hate it with a passion but Sony/SDS, if they have loyalty to any customers, will have loyalty to the ones that buy the $100 edition and then spend hundreds more on stubs throughout the year.

[Speedy]

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I am always a little baffled over this type of sentiment. You are one of a million customers, many of whom have been just as loyal as you. Expecting a company to do right for you based on your loyalty to them is a fools game. They are a business and not a charity. They will go where the money is


It would be like me complaining to a network that I expected them to treat me better than to cancel my favorite show despite it's low ratings because I have watched every episode since day 1. They don't care.


And franchise players may hate it with a passion but Sony/SDS, if they have loyalty to any customers, will have loyalty to the ones that buy the $100 edition and then spend hundreds more on stubs throughout the year.

BUT...

When a company puts the consumer first, it's very rewarding as a user of the game and for the company. Battlefield is a great example of this...BF4 was a TERRIBLE launch as it would literally crash every hour seemingly. The devs halted any DLC and took the time to make it right and there was a lot of back/forth between the community and the devs both to fix launch and outstanding issues; even with DLC drops, it would hit the test environment to test it first. Even post-DLC support was such a treat (devs created a map based purely on the community's request/feedback). Subsequently, Battlefield's next release (BF1) had a ton of sales...BF4 is still a tremendous first-person shooter, 4+ years later.

SCEA, thru the first 10 years, had similarly proven they put the consumer first. OS had what, 5-7 people go every year to their community day and give feedback on the game. It wasn't us being delusional but rather we could visibly see the impact of our feedback going into the game. The devs were active on the forums and there was true discussion about logic, features, etc...

I think with any game, I give that company my initial trust to make it worth my time and $$...then it's up to them to keep it. SCEA for years made me think I would always get my $$ worth, even if the initial trailers and such didn't look like it. Sadly, due to issues with the game and questionable decisions (IMO) the past couple of years has waned that trust.

[mets718]

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Beyond disappointed by this decision! Is online play now still in the game? Need some sort of competitive experience other than DD when you come across the same lineups every game


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And this is what people don't understand.

We want a competitive mode where we don't play against a lineup full of all stars.

Yes the play now feature is available, but we want to play vs our friends while drafting new rookies and competing against each other in a GM type world.

[Ballgame59]

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Does anyone know where we can find the actual numbers of who plays what? I have no doubt that OF is a minority but I'd like to see just how minor.
I'd also like to see the age range of who plays what mode.

Anyone know where I can find this info?

[mets718]

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Does anyone know where we can find the actual numbers of who plays what? I have no doubt that OF is a minority but I'd like to see just how minor.
I'd also like to see the age range of who plays what mode.

Anyone know where I can find this info?

Not too sure, but if I recall it was something like 400,000.

Compared to offline Franchise at 1,000,000.

My issue was if I recall they said that they tracked it by the amount of "saved games/files"
I wonder how do they truly track it.

[redsox4evur]

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Does anyone know where we can find the actual numbers of who plays what? I have no doubt that OF is a minority but I'd like to see just how minor.
I'd also like to see the age range of who plays what mode.

Anyone know where I can find this info?

This is from the devs during the MLB 17 Dev streams. It's the number of games played per mode in MLB 16.

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[Ballgame59]

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Thanks! Now is there one with age range that you might now about?

[Speedy]

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This is from the devs during the MLB 17 Dev streams. It's the number of games played per mode in MLB 16.

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This would be incredibly misleading, I feel like.

The amount of time spent in the menus and various screens in franchise is much different in RTTS, not to mention the time it takes to play a RTTS game versus franchise.

I think the qualifier should be time spent in a given mode.

[redsox4evur]

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This would be incredibly misleading, I feel like.

The amount of time spent in the menus and various screens in franchise is much different in RTTS, not to mention the time it takes to play a RTTS game versus franchise.

I think the qualifier should be time spent in a given mode.

Agreed but it's the only information we have that gives any sort of indication as to how time spent in each game mode.

Also the time spent in the menus of DD is completely different from each since you can do some stuff online with DD such as buying packs and using the market.

[Bullit]

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This would be incredibly misleading, I feel like.

The amount of time spent in the menus and various screens in franchise is much different in RTTS, not to mention the time it takes to play a RTTS game versus franchise.

I think the qualifier should be time spent in a given mode.

I disagree with you on this one.

1 hour in franchise and your barely finish a game. Whereas in RTTS you could finish a whole week or more depending on results or time spent in the training menus. I think this shows that your average user is looking for a more streamlined experience that they can get the most out of in the shortest amount of time. Those of us who take a slow burn approach to Franchise are a small, but dedicated dying breed.

I personally think the only way we really get a full featured Franchise mode that has all of the features we are seeking is for another company to put out a baseball game. While only one company puts out a product, I am in no way saying that it is a bad product, there is a lack of development or innovation. So until Sony has some competition why should they put effort into anything that does not bring them a return on their investment.

Again I am not saying The Show is a bad game or even bashing them in any way really. Those of you that know me, know I love this game. I have been absent a lot from the forums this year, personal stuff, but I have always been a supporter of this community and this game. I just think competition would improve the games for everybody.

[SilverBullet1929]

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Yeah I can play 3-5 games in RTTS in the time I can play one in Franchise. I hope this is accounted for or at least considered when analyzing the data.

[Speedy]

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I disagree with you on this one.

1 hour in franchise and your barely finish a game. Whereas in RTTS you could finish a whole week or more depending on results or time spent in the training menus. I think this shows that your average user is looking for a more streamlined experience that they can get the most out of in the shortest amount of time. Those of us who take a slow burn approach to Franchise are a small, but dedicated dying breed.

I think we're saying the same thing?

6 games in RTTS could equate to an hour, the same amount of time I may be spending in franchise working on minor league lineups, scouting, trades, etc. Or, 6 games in RTTS could equal to 1 game in franchise on fast play. There definitely are some inefficiencies that could be more streamlined and fleshed out.

I just think there are a lot of variables that particular graph isn't taking into account.

[Bullit]

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I think we're saying the same thing?

6 games in RTTS could equate to an hour, the same amount of time I may be spending in franchise working on minor league lineups, scouting, trades, etc. Or, 6 games in RTTS could equal to 1 game in franchise on fast play. I just think there are a lot of variables that particular graph isn't taking into account.

I agree on that point. I would think that they would have that info. I mean it is in '17 right. You can go to your Profile and get both time and games played. As long as those number are accurate and tracked accordingly, I don't see how they could not track both this year?

edit: What I think we were "disagreeing" on per se, is using one or the other as a qualifier where I thought we should use games played and you said time. I do think they should track both.

[Dolenz]

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I think we're saying the same thing?

6 games in RTTS could equate to an hour, the same amount of time I may be spending in franchise working on minor league lineups, scouting, trades, etc. Or, 6 games in RTTS could equal to 1 game in franchise on fast play. There definitely are some inefficiencies that could be more streamlined and fleshed out.

I just think there are a lot of variables that particular graph isn't taking into account.

Okay so lets multiply the Franchise number by 6

That brings Online Franchise up to 2,958,000 and it is still outpaced by RTTS by 27:1

Of course you would also need to multiply offline franchise, season, play now, and exhibition by 6 also. Possibly even DD as many modes in DD are 9 inning games (not all but many). So in the end Online franchise still trails every mode except playoffs.