MLB 18 The Show Trade Discussion

[Yankees247]

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Will be running a 30 team control chise where i fully control 12 teams. Baltimore will be one. Is there anyway Machado gets Andujar, Frazier and Adams/Sheffield? Plan on Manny signing in NY in the offseason anyways and to me, its the best fit for him anyways.

It depends on what you want to go off of. Angelos in my opinion is kind of a tool and an idiot but if you want to go off of surplus value then that is way to much to pay for one year of machado. I know your planning on him resigning with the yankees anyways but looking at it before the trade takes place tells you he has one year left on his contract. If you go straight off of surplus then just Andujar would be more than enough to get it done because Machado has roughly 33 million of surplus where Andujar has roughtly 38 million of surplus. IMO any two of those four players you mentioned easily gets it done if you want to penalize yourself for inter division as well.

[Bard]

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Call me a nerd but I find this thread fascinating.

However, just a few questions:

1. When trading away top prospects, it looks great, but how many people actually play long enough for the prospects to make a difference in their franchise?

2. Havent started my franchise yet and cant remember from last year, but do players who hit/pitch well see their ratings increase in season?

If so, then this makes sense. If not, and assuming most people play 1 year tops, what's the rationale for these friggin incredible calculations? lol

1. I have a play every game franchise and a 30 team control sim mainly, only play sometimes franchise. So I see full rebuilds through, and same goes for quite a few people!

2. I believe this is a yes, but I am not sure how much.

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[Yankees247]

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Call me a nerd but I find this thread fascinating.

However, just a few questions:

1. When trading away top prospects, it looks great, but how many people actually play long enough for the prospects to make a difference in their franchise?

2. Havent started my franchise yet and cant remember from last year, but do players who hit/pitch well see their ratings increase in season?

If so, then this makes sense. If not, and assuming most people play 1 year tops, what's the rationale for these friggin incredible calculations? lol

1.Most people are wanting to know what prospects to trade to get MLB ready players in return and come here so they are not ripping off the computer system. People that go through rebuilds typically sim a season or two before they start actually playing games so they can rebuild a chise

2.Their ratings can go up and down during the season yes.

[kenp86]

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It depends on what you want to go off of. Angelos in my opinion is kind of a tool and an idiot but if you want to go off of surplus value then that is way to much to pay for one year of machado. I know your planning on him resigning with the yankees anyways but looking at it before the trade takes place tells you he has one year left on his contract. If you go straight off of surplus then just Andujar would be more than enough to get it done because Machado has roughly 33 million of surplus where Andujar has roughtly 38 million of surplus. IMO any two of those four players you mentioned easily gets it done if you want to penalize yourself for inter division as well.

Then would a Manny, Gausman be enough for a package like that? No Angelos involved in this decision making lol

[Yankees247]

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Then would a Manny, Gausman be enough for a package like that? No Angelos involved in this decision making lol

Guasman would give you an additional 60 million in surplus to give you a total of 92 million surplus between him and machado. Andujar is 38 million, sheffield is 46 million and adams is 32 million. Frazier is a tricky one because he was a top 25 prospect as of last year but a little of the shiny new toy has wore off so just a guess I would put him around 25-30 million. Bard might be able to give you a better guess on frazier.

[Bard]

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Guasman would give you an additional 60 million in surplus to give you a total of 92 million surplus between him and machado. Andujar is 38 million, sheffield is 46 million and adams is 32 million. Frazier is a tricky one because he was a top 25 prospect as of last year but a little of the shiny new toy has wore off so just a guess I would put him around 25-30 million. Bard might be able to give you a better guess on frazier.

Man. Yankees could be very stacked with this trade.

The Orioles refused to really make a trade for Machado out of fear he would be traded to the Yankees...so they wouldn't likely want to trade with the Yankees at all, so this is going to hurt the Yankees.

Machado being worth around $36 million in surplus is more likely $46 million due to trading within the division. I usually add $5-10 million depending on the player for trading within the same division.

Gausman is roughly worth $22.5 million in surplus value. So add that up to $27.5 million.

That is $73.5 million surplus you are trading away.

Two of those prospects for the two would be the ideal trade for the Orioles here to make the Yankees overpay to land their franchise player.

You may even be able and pull off a Adams, Frazier, AND Adujar for the duo if the Yankees really are desperate to land Machado and another decent arm.

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[kenp86]

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Man. Yankees could be very stacked with this trade.

The Orioles refused to really make a trade for Machado out of fear he would be traded to the Yankees...so they wouldn't likely want to trade with the Yankees at all, so this is going to hurt the Yankees.

Machado being worth around $36 million in surplus is more likely $46 million due to trading within the division. I usually add $5-10 million depending on the player for trading within the same division.

Gausman is roughly worth $22.5 million in surplus value. So add that up to $27.5 million.

That is $73.5 million surplus you are trading away.

Two of those prospects for the two would be the ideal trade for the Orioles here to make the Yankees overpay to land their franchise player.

You may even be able and pull off a Adams, Frazier, AND Adujar for the duo if the Yankees really are desperate to land Machado and another decent arm.

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Im willing to make that sacrifice. Adams, Frazier and Andujar would really jump start my rebuild. Schoop would be next. Any ideas?

[Bard]

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Im willing to make that sacrifice. Adams, Frazier and Andujar would really jump start my rebuild. Schoop would be next. Any ideas?

I'm not sure if I can sign off, however. The Yankees have done a great job adding talent.

They have Drury, Didi, Torres, Walker, Adujar, Wade, and a few others to play 2B, 3B, and SS.

Sure Machado would be an upgrade, but this just isn't a good fit anymore.


Schoop now. He just had a breakout year, but he is now getting expensive and 2 years out of free agency. He is worth around $24-30 million in surplus so he could land some bottom end top 100 prospect.

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[kenp86]

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I'm not sure if I can sign off, however. The Yankees have done a great job adding talent.

They have Drury, Didi, Torres, Walker, Adujar, Wade, and a few others to play 2B, 3B, and SS.

Sure Machado would be an upgrade, but this just isn't a good fit anymore.


Schoop now. He just had a breakout year, but he is now getting expensive and 2 years out of free agency. He is worth around $24-30 million in surplus so he could land some bottom end top 100 prospect.

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Frazier is currently blocked and Andujar would be blocked when Manny comes in offseason. Plus, Yanks pick up a solid SP along with the upgrade at 3B

[Bard]

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Frazier is currently blocked and Andujar would be blocked when Manny comes in offseason. Plus, Yanks pick up a solid SP along with the upgrade at 3B

So they could deal Frazier off for an upgrade in the rotation.

The Andujar part still isn't okay with all the depth they already have.

Yeah Drury can become just the utility player and Wade can be in AAA.

Torres is close to being ready, and once he is up where does Walker go?

I believe the Yankees have added this depth so they didn't have to do a deal like this, but if you want to do it, it is fine.

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[adirienzo]

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My long thinking process of what team to build has come upon me... of course once the game has come out. Im loosing sleep (not really) over who to pick. Im a yanks fan and did them last 4 years, but its not fun anymore. Was thinking of Cinci, or Oakland. Any ideas on a team/ direction?

[Yankees247]

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So they could deal Frazier off for an upgrade in the rotation.

The Andujar part still isn't okay with all the depth they already have.

Yeah Drury can become just the utility player and Wade can be in AAA.

Torres is close to being ready, and once he is up where does Walker go?

I believe the Yankees have added this depth so they didn't have to do a deal like this, but if you want to do it, it is fine.

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I agree being a yankees fan. I think you could get Andujar and Adams/Fraizer. I dont think they give all three to get machado and gausman.

[kenp86]

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Ok. Say i do a Machado/Gausman to Yanks for Frazier/Andujar and Schoop to Milwaukee for say a Corbin Burnes. Could a healthy Britton get a struggling Schwarber? I know unrealistic, but im a schwarber fan.

Also, is a JBJ to SF for Garrett Williams and Shaun Anderson even?

Could a Brad Hand to NYY for Andujar work if i end up not trading him to Baltimore?

[Peji911]

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Looking to possibly do a Blue Jays franchise. I think I will look to trade 3 of my players by the deadline and rebuild around Guerrero Jr, Bichette, and Jansen and just taking a hit for 2019 and hopefully be ok for 2020.

What could I realistically get for Donaldson, Tulo and Russell Martin? I am not concerned about positions except maybe 3B (Guerrero Jr), SS (Bichette), Catcher (Jansen).

If possible, a few prospects ready to go in 2019/2020 might be ideal so that they grow together.

[Bard]

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Ok. Say i do a Machado/Gausman to Yanks for Frazier/Andujar and Schoop to Milwaukee for say a Corbin Burnes. Could a healthy Britton get a struggling Schwarber? I know unrealistic, but im a schwarber fan.

Also, is a JBJ to SF for Garrett Williams and Shaun Anderson even?

Could a Brad Hand to NYY for Andujar work if i end up not trading him to Baltimore?

I doubt the Cubs deal Schwarber who's value is still at a very low point for a few months/one season of Britton. They would likely want to deal him for a controllable pitcher.

Why would the Red Sox do that...?

He just signed an extension so it is u realistic. However, Hand' s surplus is $31.25 million roughly, and that can get, for example, Albert Abreu and Chance Adams from you. Adujar would be about $8.75 million too little.

Playing a Cubs franchise. Just lost Contreras for 2 months right before the ASB. Who would be some good options to inquire on? Would look to find someone serviceable, doesn’t need to be outstanding.

Kurt Suzuki and Tyler Flowers from Atlanta.

Wilson Ramos from Tampa.

How are the Mariners? Mike Zunino.

Jonathan Lucroy if the A's are already out of it.

Looking to possibly do a Blue Jays franchise. I think I will look to trade 3 of my players by the deadline and rebuild around Guerrero Jr, Bichette, and Jansen and just taking a hit for 2019 and hopefully be ok for 2020.

What could I realistically get for Donaldson, Tulo and Russell Martin? I am not concerned about positions except maybe 3B (Guerrero Jr), SS (Bichette), Catcher (Jansen).

If possible, a few prospects ready to go in 2019/2020 might be ideal so that they grow together.

Martin is worth -$7.3 million in surplus.

Tulo just nobody would be dumb enough to take on. Injury prone and pretty expensive.

Donaldson now can get you a good return. He is worth around $22 million in surplus. That can get you a top 51-75 prospect in baseball.

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