MLB 18 The Show Trade Discussion

[Councilmann_Jamm]

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Would Villar for Blake Swihart be fair? The Brewers can definitely use a catcher & Boston would get a good utility player. Thanks

Yes that as fair as a 1 on 1 trade you can get.

[montgom24]

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White sox needing to add vetran help in the Outfield, pick up Leonys Martin for Jake Burger and Nick Delmonico?

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[Councilmann_Jamm]

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White sox needing to add vetran help in the Outfield, pick up Leonys Martin for Jake Burger and Nick Delmonico?

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Too much for Martin. White Sox aren't giving up #6 prospect for a player that's been DFA'd a few times.

Doubt they give Delmonico straight up to Martin.

A low level C prospects could be had for Martin.

[kinsmen7]

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If we're being realistic, which is what this thread is about, Osuna currently has no value. He's looking at a potentially year long suspension if not longer. Nobody in their right mind is trading for a guy who is about to miss more than a year of baseball as a result of an assault case. Add to that, Osuna could technically be barred from entering the US given this is a matter of moral turpitude. Thus I think you're looking at maybe bringing back a lottery guy or two to a team with little talent who is willing to take on the issues surrounding Osuna.

If we're ignoring reality, 25M is his surplus. That is good enough to swing a move for Ruiz. I don't particularly like the move for Huira as they're pretty high on him, he's young and I don't think they foresee Villar as the long-term option at second.

Aroldis Chapman signed a 5 year $86 million dollar contract when he was set to serve a 30 game suspension for a similar incident.

Something tells me that the vast majority of GM's value the arm over the person.

Not to mention that depending on the length of the suspension, it'll probably add an extra year of control.

[montgom24]

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Too much for Martin. White Sox aren't giving up #6 prospect for a player that's been DFA'd a few times.

Doubt they give Delmonico straight up to Martin.

A low level C prospects could be had for Martin.

And what about Billy Hamilton? Would the reds be willing to move him?

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[montgom24]

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What would the white Sox have to give up to get Billy Hamilton from the Reds?

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[Councilmann_Jamm]

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What would the white Sox have to give up to get Billy Hamilton from the Reds?

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Carson Fulmer and Charlie Tilson

Or

#7 Blake Rutherford and #13 Zach Burdi

[montgom24]

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Carson Fulmer and Charlie Tilson

#7 Blake Rutherford and #13 Zach Burdi

That's not horrible. Thanks for your help!

I tried to do the WAR thing that was explained on the front page and I just couldn't understand it, so sorry for so many questions.

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[MrSerendipity]

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During the winter meetings this question was brought up and was stated that MadBum would bring in at least 2 top tier and 2 medium prospects. This would be by World Series contenders.

And if you make a trade with MadBum within your chise. Then that means the Giants rebuild is starting.

Brandon Crawford would be the next player with some trade value.

Jeff Smarjazda and Jonny Cueto could be traded but won't get much in prospects because of their contracts.

Andrew McCutchen, Brandon Belt, Evan Longoria would net you C prospects. Longoria has most value out of the 3. Maybe a playoff contender type flip.


Man Giants look like a fun franchise team to rebuild now.

I'm glad you said this because I don't think this gets enough weight in this thread when people look at doing deals like this. If San Francisco is moving MadBum, Texas is moving Hamels and Tampa Bay is moving Archer, those teams are prepping for rebuilds. You should look at other players those teams can move (Eg. Crawford, Chirinos, etc.) as well because it doesn't make sense for them to sell one really good player for a few prospects if they're committing to a rebuild.

Aroldis Chapman signed a 5 year $86 million dollar contract when he was set to serve a 30 game suspension for a similar incident.

Something tells me that the vast majority of GM's value the arm over the person.

Not to mention that depending on the length of the suspension, it'll probably add an extra year of control.

Chapman was a very different situation. First, Chapman was the first player to be suspended for domestic violence and that was over two years ago. Jose Reyes was suspended after that and it was for 50+ games. Thus given the heightened oversight of Domestic Violence, Osuna will likely receive a longer suspension.

Additionally, both of those incidents we just sighted occurred in the United States. Osuna's incident occurred in Canada. Keep in mind that in Canada, there is no filing for Domestic Assault, only Assault. Their criminal system acts differently than the United States. Whereas Chapman had already served his suspension prior to being traded, Osuna will just be entering his. Osuna doesn't even go to court for over a month, including deliberation you're looking at probably four to six weeks after that. Thus at the earliest, Osuna comes back in August (after the trade deadline). From what I've read, should Osuna go to trial, his trial could last anywhere from two to two and a half years.

The MLB at this point would finalize their investigation and put foward a suspension. Thus Osuna doesn't even serve his suspension until the case is done which could be as soon as two months from now or three years from now.

Keep in mind that the Reds were working out a trade deal with LA when Chapman was arrested and the Dodgers pulled out of that deal. It took time for Chapman to become desirable again which is exactly how things will be with Osuna. Can he have value down the road? Of course, if he comes back from suspension and earns said value. But he just tarnished (even if only temporarily) his value right now.

[HolyStroke3]

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Looking for value on a few players

Julio Teheran
2-7, 5.28 ERA, signed through 2019
ATL 29-39

Adam Jones
.226, 5 HR, 22 RBI, last year of contract
BAL 29-41

Billy Hamilton
.264, 0 HR, 12 RBI, under team control through 2019
CIN 33-35
*out 2-3 weeks, broken hand

[Kahler77]

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If we're being realistic, which is what this thread is about, Osuna currently has no value. He's looking at a potentially year long suspension if not longer. Nobody in their right mind is trading for a guy who is about to miss more than a year of baseball as a result of an assault case. Add to that, Osuna could technically be barred from entering the US given this is a matter of moral turpitude. Thus I think you're looking at maybe bringing back a lottery guy or two to a team with little talent who is willing to take on the issues surrounding Osuna.

If we're ignoring reality, 25M is his surplus. That is good enough to swing a move for Ruiz. I don't particularly like the move for Huira as they're pretty high on him, he's young and I don't think they foresee Villar as the long-term option at second.

Looking to move Osuna to the Tigers, D-backs, or Athletics

I feel like the Tigers would be willing to trade a couple lottos for two years of Osuna

Does Osuna to the tigers for
3B Dominic Ficociello and SS Daniel Pinero work?

The D-backs trade would be if Goldy doesnt resign trying to re-infuse talent to the roster

Osuna for Tomas
Im thinking this is a guy they are paying a decent chunk of change to play in the minors real life so to get something back is better then nothing a guy they dont view as a big leaguer

The Athletics are a team with good young talent that get two years of control of Osuna

Osuna for Nunez

Another guy that in real life they got rid of for nothing so to take a chance on 2 years of Osuna is better then no return at all is my thinking here

[HolyStroke3]

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NYY gets:
1B J. Bour (76 OVR, .259/.355/.452 12 HR 24 RBI)

MIA gets:
RP J. Holder (74 OVR, 1-1 3.86 ERA 11 K 6 BB 21 IP)
1B T. Austin (62 OVR, .206/.256/.322 5 HR 21 RBI)
SP S. Tarpley (62 OVR, 74 POT.)

[GoBlue81188]

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Targeting Wellington Castillo for my Mets.

Does D’Arnaud + B level SP+ lotto ticket seem like a fair deal?

Castillo is a 30 year old catcher, having a very nice year for a terrible Sox team

[Matt54987]

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Just started a Brewers franchise and realized they have a ton of depth in the outfield and they really need a starting pitcher.

This is how my outfield looks:

LF - Yelich
CF - Cain
RF Santana

Braun can also play out there as can Keon Broxton and Brett Phillips (A prospect).

This team is ready to contend so I wouldn't mind packaging Phillips in a deal for a pitcher. Or, I could look to deal Cain and put Phillips in his place.

Who are some reasonable pitchers to target? I was thinking the likes of a Stroman or Archer. What would it to take to get them?

[shawn0227]

MLB 18 The Show Trade Discussion

Been looking for a second franchise to run and saw someone mention the Giants as a rebuild project. Really like that idea but need some ideas on trade partners for Bumgarnder.

I simmed to middle of June in 2018, Dodgers, Cubs, Nationals, Astros, Indians, Red Sox lead the divisions with Yankees, Angels, Twins, O’s, Jays, Braves, Cardinals, Diamondbacks, Phillies, Rockies all in wild card hunt (within 4 games).

Braves, Phillies, Dodgers, Yankees, Cardinals have the farm system to get a trade done. Possibly Jays as well if we include a Vlad Jr or Bichette. Astros could make a trade but would have to deal from major league roster to get rid of logjam at starter I assume.

What is Bumgarner’s surplus? He is pitching to a 2.8 WAR so far in 2018. I am not concerned with realism as suppose to just making sure the value in trade matches up. Like i would seriously doubt the Giants would trade him to LA but if they would offer the best package then I would make the trade since I’m more concerned about value.


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