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  • MrSerendipity
    MVP
    • Jun 2013
    • 1397

    #1171
    Re: MLB 18 The Show Trade Discussion

    Originally posted by HighCmpPct
    Okay I got Brian Dozier's value at 12.6m that's probably wrong idk.

    Anyway if that is the case, or really close. Would a out of it Twins team with him on the block move him for say Albert Abreu and maybe a piece?
    How out of it? I think they really like Dozier up there but if there season is plummeting I could see them parting ways to continue stocking up for their eventual run.
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    • MrSerendipity
      MVP
      • Jun 2013
      • 1397

      #1172
      Re: MLB 18 The Show Trade Discussion

      So here is my situation. My Texas team blew minds and led the division by 5 games at the trade deadline last year so I made moves for Brandon Drury, Randal Grichuk and Chris Archer. The team faltered in the second half and finished two games behind the Astros in the Division and a single game behind the Wildcard winners. Beltre has decided to stick around another year so I've given him a loyalty contract despite a big stat drop-off. He'll likely DH most of the season. I acquired Freddy Galvis out of Free Agency and will likely move either him or Andrus to Third Base. Gallo will stay at 1st where he was a Gold-Glove candidate.

      I feel like I have to commit to trying to win now (despite LAD getting Harper and Keuchel in FA so good luck). This leaves me with a couple of depth issues that I'm hoping to turn into a decent SP acquisition. I'm looking at Luis Castillo of the Reds. This is the 2018 Off-Season and he posted a season similar to his 2017 IRL Season. The Reds finished near the bottom of the league again. I'm expecting him to be pricey but I can't quite gauge his value given he isn't a prospect but he only has one year to work off of. I'm looking at something like this:

      TEX REC: Luis Castillo | Michael Lorenzen
      CIN REC: Ariel Jurado | Ronald Guzman | Willie Calhoun | Kyle Cody | Top 50 2018 Draft Selection OF

      Am I close or far here?
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      • HighCmpPct
        Denny 3K
        • Oct 2011
        • 3596

        #1173
        Re: MLB 18 The Show Trade Discussion

        Originally posted by MrSerendipity
        How out of it? I think they really like Dozier up there but if there season is plummeting I could see them parting ways to continue stocking up for their eventual run.
        11 games out of it right now and falling. Only reason. It even popped in my head was they just put him on the bloock couple days ago.

        I'd have to make a few more moves for them if I did this, but that's not really a problem. Not even sure I'm gonna do it, but if I decide to I wanted it worked out already.

        Also what's Clint Frazier's Value at? Would it be possible to ship him to Detroit for Iglesias and Faedo or Manning?

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        • GamecocksLaw17
          MVP
          • Jun 2015
          • 1503

          #1174
          Re: MLB 18 The Show Trade Discussion

          Originally posted by BigOscar
          Interesting, Angels were on my list of potential matches but I completely forgot the whole no otani DH issue. Big Matt Thaiss fan as well from a franchise a couple of year ago
          Belt is worth like $60 million in surplus. Why so eager to sell him below value?

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          • GamecocksLaw17
            MVP
            • Jun 2015
            • 1503

            #1175
            Re: MLB 18 The Show Trade Discussion

            Originally posted by HighCmpPct
            Okay I got Brian Dozier's value at 12.6m that's probably wrong idk.

            Anyway if that is the case, or really close. Would a out of it Twins team with him on the block move him for say Albert Abreu and maybe a piece?
            Using the formula you guys listed I have Dozier at $34.65.

            4.5 x 6
            6.3 x 3
            2.6 x 1
            For a 4.85 average. And he only makes $9 million in 2018. So 4.85 x 9 = $43.65 - $9 = $34.65

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            • BigOscar
              MVP
              • May 2016
              • 2971

              #1176
              Re: MLB 18 The Show Trade Discussion

              Originally posted by GamecocksLaw17
              Belt is worth like $60 million in surplus. Why so eager to sell him below value?

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              I traded him with Cueto for Thaiss, Maitan,Williams and Chris Rodriguez in the end, which is probably still below value, but when I'm doing a full rebuild I prefer to be the one on the slightly worse end of the deal to sort of replicate the supply/demand aspect of a sell off.

              I am the instigator of the deal, the motivated seller, so it seems right that I should get the short end of the stick if that makes sense?

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              • MrSerendipity
                MVP
                • Jun 2013
                • 1397

                #1177
                Re: MLB 18 The Show Trade Discussion

                Originally posted by MrSerendipity
                So here is my situation. My Texas team blew minds and led the division by 5 games at the trade deadline last year so I made moves for Brandon Drury, Randal Grichuk and Chris Archer. The team faltered in the second half and finished two games behind the Astros in the Division and a single game behind the Wildcard winners. Beltre has decided to stick around another year so I've given him a loyalty contract despite a big stat drop-off. He'll likely DH most of the season. I acquired Freddy Galvis out of Free Agency and will likely move either him or Andrus to Third Base. Gallo will stay at 1st where he was a Gold-Glove candidate.

                I feel like I have to commit to trying to win now (despite LAD getting Harper and Keuchel in FA so good luck). This leaves me with a couple of depth issues that I'm hoping to turn into a decent SP acquisition. I'm looking at Luis Castillo of the Reds. This is the 2018 Off-Season and he posted a season similar to his 2017 IRL Season. The Reds finished near the bottom of the league again. I'm expecting him to be pricey but I can't quite gauge his value given he isn't a prospect but he only has one year to work off of. I'm looking at something like this:

                TEX REC: Luis Castillo | Michael Lorenzen
                CIN REC: Ariel Jurado | Ronald Guzman | Willie Calhoun | Kyle Cody | Top 50 2018 Draft Selection OF

                Am I close or far here?
                Basic math using only Castillo's Rookie Season says that Castillo has a surplus of around 125M (assuming he gets expected arbitrations and etc.) Is what I'm offering enough? This gives a First Baseman upon Votto's retirement, a Top 50 LF/2B option in Calhoun, two young MLB Ready arms in Jurado and Guzman and then an Outfielder I drafted in 2018 with A Potential, 68 Overall and only 20 years old.
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                • GamecocksLaw17
                  MVP
                  • Jun 2015
                  • 1503

                  #1178
                  Re: MLB 18 The Show Trade Discussion

                  Originally posted by MrSerendipity
                  Basic math using only Castillo's Rookie Season says that Castillo has a surplus of around 125M (assuming he gets expected arbitrations and etc.) Is what I'm offering enough? This gives a First Baseman upon Votto's retirement, a Top 50 LF/2B option in Calhoun, two young MLB Ready arms in Jurado and Guzman and then an Outfielder I drafted in 2018 with A Potential, 68 Overall and only 20 years old.
                  Just my opinion, but when a player with that much surplus is involved the headliner needs to be around a top-20 prospect in baseball. Calhoun is a phenomenal hitter but he's a DH only. I don't think Texas has the farm at the moment to entice the Reds out of 6 seasons of Castillo

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                  • GR5Noles
                    MVP
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 1255

                    #1179
                    Re: MLB 18 The Show Trade Discussion

                    Originally posted by Councilmann_Jamm
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                    Braves - Joey Wentz and Patrick Weigel
                    I'm looking for a right handed reliever. I already have Freeman and Minter as lefties coming out of the pen, and while they aren't close to Britton's level, they've been good enough for me. I might even convert Gohara to bullpen once I get Teheran back from injury and my younger guys start breaking into the bigs.

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                    • MrSerendipity
                      MVP
                      • Jun 2013
                      • 1397

                      #1180
                      Re: MLB 18 The Show Trade Discussion

                      Originally posted by GamecocksLaw17
                      Just my opinion, but when a player with that much surplus is involved the headliner needs to be around a top-20 prospect in baseball. Calhoun is a phenomenal hitter but he's a DH only. I don't think Texas has the farm at the moment to entice the Reds out of 6 seasons of Castillo

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                      I think you're probably right, I knew Castillo was good but I wouldn't have guessed he was worth that much. I'm in a bit of a tough spot right now. Realistically the way that I'm set up, I don't have spots for Guzman or Calhoun. It makes the most sense for me to deal for an arm but Calhoun limits me to AL teams if he's only prospected as a DH.

                      What do you think of Berrios in MIN? I'm conflicted as he's a young promising arm that I doubt MIN would be excited to deal away. However, they were competing at the deadline last year and acquired Realmuto, so I don't think they're happy with having no quality First Baseman or DH. Does it make sense if I do this?

                      MIN REC: Guzman | Calhoun | Minor | Jurado | Palumbo | Herrera
                      TEX REC: Berrios | Stewart
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                      • Councilmann_Jamm
                        Pro
                        • Feb 2016
                        • 745

                        #1181
                        Re: MLB 18 The Show Trade Discussion

                        Originally posted by MrSerendipity
                        I think you're probably right, I knew Castillo was good but I wouldn't have guessed he was worth that much. I'm in a bit of a tough spot right now. Realistically the way that I'm set up, I don't have spots for Guzman or Calhoun. It makes the most sense for me to deal for an arm but Calhoun limits me to AL teams if he's only prospected as a DH.

                        What do you think of Berrios in MIN? I'm conflicted as he's a young promising arm that I doubt MIN would be excited to deal away. However, they were competing at the deadline last year and acquired Realmuto, so I don't think they're happy with having no quality First Baseman or DH. Does it make sense if I do this?

                        MIN REC: Guzman | Calhoun | Minor | Jurado | Palumbo | Herrera
                        TEX REC: Berrios | Stewart
                        Minnesota has Lewin Diaz whose one of top 1B prospects. Plus they aren't dealing away Jose Berrios, he's too good and young.

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                        • GamecocksLaw17
                          MVP
                          • Jun 2015
                          • 1503

                          #1182
                          Re: MLB 18 The Show Trade Discussion

                          Originally posted by MrSerendipity
                          I think you're probably right, I knew Castillo was good but I wouldn't have guessed he was worth that much. I'm in a bit of a tough spot right now. Realistically the way that I'm set up, I don't have spots for Guzman or Calhoun. It makes the most sense for me to deal for an arm but Calhoun limits me to AL teams if he's only prospected as a DH.

                          What do you think of Berrios in MIN? I'm conflicted as he's a young promising arm that I doubt MIN would be excited to deal away. However, they were competing at the deadline last year and acquired Realmuto, so I don't think they're happy with having no quality First Baseman or DH. Does it make sense if I do this?

                          MIN REC: Guzman | Calhoun | Minor | Jurado | Palumbo | Herrera
                          TEX REC: Berrios | Stewart
                          Calhoun was moved for 3 months of Yu. I have a hard time believing the Twins will give you 6 years if Berrios for the same. Also, why would a competing team trade away their young controllable ace for 2 "unknowns"

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                          • MrSerendipity
                            MVP
                            • Jun 2013
                            • 1397

                            #1183
                            Re: MLB 18 The Show Trade Discussion

                            Originally posted by GamecocksLaw17
                            Calhoun was moved for 3 months of Yu. I have a hard time believing the Twins will give you 6 years if Berrios for the same

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                            Originally posted by Councilmann_Jamm
                            Minnesota has Lewin Diaz whose one of top 1B prospects. Plus they aren't dealing away Jose Berrios, he's too good and young.
                            You guys are killing me!

                            Personally, I think Guzman is a significant upgrade over Diaz. He's excellent defensively. For the sake of clarification, in my Franchise, Guzman is 24 with a 77OVR (B Pot) while Diaz is 22 with a 63OVR (B POT) and at least two-three years away. Right now Vargas prospects as the starting first baseman for Min.

                            We're probably right then. I mean I'm stuck. Any ideas? I need to rectify this log-jam and acquire a pitcher (preferably right-handed) in doing so. If Calhoun has to DH, that means I'm restricted to AL Teams. Removing Division Opponents, that leaves me with 10 Teams. Removing Minnesota from that equation, I'm left with 9 teams. I'm thinking I'm left with these options:

                            KC - Jake Junis
                            DET - Vince Velasquez (acquired from PHI in Fulmer Deal)
                            CLE - Trevor Bauer (Don't think they would downgrade to Minor even with prospect additions)
                            TOR - Aaron Sanchez/Marcus Stroman
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                            • MrSerendipity
                              MVP
                              • Jun 2013
                              • 1397

                              #1184
                              Re: MLB 18 The Show Trade Discussion

                              Thoughts/Approval/Disapproval on these deals?

                              TEX REC: Jake Junis | Corey Ray
                              KC REC: Willie Calhoun | Mike Minor | Ariel Jurado | Joe Palumbo

                              BAL REC: Yasiel Puig | Tim Locastro | Lottery
                              LAD REC: Jonathan Schoop

                              In my Franchise it is the Off-Season after the 2018 season and Los Angeles is going all in. They've signed Harper and Keuchel. They opted not to resign Forsythe. Baltimore finished near the bottom of their division and already dealt Machado to St. Louis at the deadline. Puig doesn't have a spot anymore with the signing of Harper and I think Baltimore could see a lot of value there both in the field and at DH. Locastro fills the need at 2B that they lose in Schoop. Los Angeles throws in an additional Lottery player to finish this deal off.
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                              • kinsmen7
                                MVP
                                • Mar 2016
                                • 1661

                                #1185
                                Re: MLB 18 The Show Trade Discussion

                                Originally posted by MrSerendipity
                                Thoughts/Approval/Disapproval on these deals?

                                TEX REC: Jake Junis | Corey Ray
                                KC REC: Willie Calhoun | Mike Minor | Ariel Jurado | Joe Palumbo

                                BAL REC: Yasiel Puig | Tim Locastro | Lottery
                                LAD REC: Jonathan Schoop

                                In my Franchise it is the Off-Season after the 2018 season and Los Angeles is going all in. They've signed Harper and Keuchel. They opted not to resign Forsythe. Baltimore finished near the bottom of their division and already dealt Machado to St. Louis at the deadline. Puig doesn't have a spot anymore with the signing of Harper and I think Baltimore could see a lot of value there both in the field and at DH. Locastro fills the need at 2B that they lose in Schoop. Los Angeles throws in an additional Lottery player to finish this deal off.
                                How is Jarlin Garcia in your franchise? I ran a Marlins test franchise and he was dominant in year one. Calhoun seems like a piece that would fit in Miami if they either a) Moved Castro back to SS or b) Moved Castro to a contending team.
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