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  • Caulfield
    Hall Of Fame
    • Apr 2011
    • 10986

    #46
    Re: AI Bullpen usage logic is the worst

    Originally posted by countryboy
    Are you into the season or just starting?

    Could be that if you're into the season, that the stats/production dictate that Castro is better served as the top middle reliever out of the pen over Richard Bleier
    Oh man, I didnt know the game was that deep, if thats the way it works, that is awesome! I'm midway through the season. There are always 1 or 2 players who are personally favored by me that I make starters, whose overall would dictate they ride pine. Still, I start 'em anyways. Like this year I have Joey Rickard as a centerfielder instead of a corner and his overall is like 70, but Ced Mullins gets Coach Caulfield's Seal of Approval as starting CF'er even though his overall is something like 64. I keep thinking I cant possibly get anymore giddy over the Show but I'm consistently amazed by this game.
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    • bravesfan1984
      MVP
      • Mar 2008
      • 2808

      #47
      Re: AI Bullpen usage logic is the worst

      I have definitely seen better results following the layout of the pen from earlier in the thread. I do 30 team control, but CPU is auto, so what I do after I advance each day, is go through everyone's bullpen to make sure they are where I left them and the CPU didn't change it. If not, I adjust, takes 2 minutes...well worth it to get a more sim experience!
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      • BigOscar
        MVP
        • May 2016
        • 2971

        #48
        Re: AI Bullpen usage logic is the worst

        Is there any solution at all to the computer being full moronic with their bullpen? Like when they leave there worst reliever in for ages, regardless of game situation?

        Classic example that just happened. Playing against the Red Sox, take a 4-2 lead in the 6th so they bring in their worst reliever Brian Johnson, he pitches an inning and they then tie the game up. They then just leave him in there for the next two innings, even when I get 2 men on without any outs in his 3rd inning. I end up going ahead and they still leave him in there to just lose the game.

        The bullpen AI has always been bad, but I swear it's even worse than usual this year

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        • The Kid 24
          It's Show Time!
          • Jan 2007
          • 14766

          #49
          Re: AI Bullpen usage logic is the worst

          Originally posted by bravesfan1984
          I have definitely seen better results following the layout of the pen from earlier in the thread. I do 30 team control, but CPU is auto, so what I do after I advance each day, is go through everyone's bullpen to make sure they are where I left them and the CPU didn't change it. If not, I adjust, takes 2 minutes...well worth it to get a more sim experience!

          Just curious does the CPU change it a lot? With the weird setup I can see that being the case.
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          • bravesfan1984
            MVP
            • Mar 2008
            • 2808

            #50
            Re: AI Bullpen usage logic is the worst

            Originally posted by The Kid 24
            Just curious does the CPU change it a lot? With the weird setup I can see that being the case.

            Only a few games into my franchise but basically what I've seen is anytime the CPU makes a roster move (DL, callup/demote) it'll auto adjust. I kind of just keep tabs on transactions and adjust from there. But honestly, just scrolling through each teams pitching rotation/pen is quicker for me.
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            • The Kid 24
              It's Show Time!
              • Jan 2007
              • 14766

              #51
              Re: AI Bullpen usage logic is the worst

              Originally posted by BigOscar
              Is there any solution at all to the computer being full moronic with their bullpen? Like when they leave there worst reliever in for ages, regardless of game situation?

              Classic example that just happened. Playing against the Red Sox, take a 4-2 lead in the 6th so they bring in their worst reliever Brian Johnson, he pitches an inning and they then tie the game up. They then just leave him in there for the next two innings, even when I get 2 men on without any outs in his 3rd inning. I end up going ahead and they still leave him in there to just lose the game.

              The bullpen AI has always been bad, but I swear it's even worse than usual this year

              Have you gone thru each bullpen at setup like the way Lily Of The Valley posted? I've seen really nice bullpen management now!
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              • The Kid 24
                It's Show Time!
                • Jan 2007
                • 14766

                #52
                Re: AI Bullpen usage logic is the worst

                Originally posted by bravesfan1984
                Only a few games into my franchise but basically what I've seen is anytime the CPU makes a roster move (DL, callup/demote) it'll auto adjust. I kind of just keep tabs on transactions and adjust from there. But honestly, just scrolling through each teams pitching rotation/pen is quicker for me.

                Good to hear! I was worried about switching CPU teams to Auto, they would go and realign things.
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                • Mephiskapheles
                  Rookie
                  • May 2013
                  • 151

                  #53
                  Re: AI Bullpen usage logic is the worst

                  Originally posted by The Kid 24
                  Like LOTY posted, best setup guy go in MR slot 1, 2nd best goes in MR slot 2 and 3rd best goes in LR 1 slot.


                  So after the 3 best guys, do the next 2 best go under MR or LR?


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                  • Guys_WhoGame
                    Rookie
                    • Oct 2015
                    • 147

                    #54
                    Re: AI Bullpen usage logic is the worst

                    Originally posted by Mephiskapheles
                    So after the 3 best guys, do the next 2 best go under MR or LR?


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                    This is what I’m confused on as well.

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                    • The Kid 24
                      It's Show Time!
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 14766

                      #55
                      Re: AI Bullpen usage logic is the worst

                      Originally posted by Mephiskapheles
                      So after the 3 best guys, do the next 2 best go under MR or LR?

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                      Originally posted by Guys_WhoGame
                      This is what I’m confused on as well.
                      MR should have all 4 slots filled, if you need more spots then put in LR.

                      Just make sure nobody is in the SU spots.
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                      • BigOscar
                        MVP
                        • May 2016
                        • 2971

                        #56
                        Re: AI Bullpen usage logic is the worst

                        Originally posted by The Kid 24
                        MR should have all 4 slots filled, if you need more spots then put in LR.

                        Just make sure nobody is in the SU spots.
                        Doesn't having players in the LR spots make them pitch a million innings though? I think it did last year, they frequently ended up with more than starters

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                        • The Kid 24
                          It's Show Time!
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 14766

                          #57
                          Re: AI Bullpen usage logic is the worst

                          Originally posted by BigOscar
                          Doesn't having players in the LR spots make them pitch a million innings though? I think it did last year, they frequently ended up with more than starters

                          I've only been using a couple games, but I havent seen it... I think it balances out with having nobody in the SU spots.
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                          • Mephiskapheles
                            Rookie
                            • May 2013
                            • 151

                            #58
                            Re: AI Bullpen usage logic is the worst

                            Originally posted by The Kid 24
                            MR should have all 4 slots filled, if you need more spots then put in LR.

                            Just make sure nobody is in the SU spots.


                            Maybe I’m misunderstanding, but why is the 3rd best guy in the LR spot? If they’re going to prioritize MR then go to LR, shouldn’t the 4 best guys go in MR spots? I guess what I’m asking is what’s the logic behind the first LR spot?


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                            • The Kid 24
                              It's Show Time!
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 14766

                              #59
                              Re: AI Bullpen usage logic is the worst

                              Originally posted by Mephiskapheles
                              Maybe I’m misunderstanding, but why is the 3rd best guy in the LR spot? If they’re going to prioritize MR then go to LR, shouldn’t the 4 best guys go in MR spots? I guess what I’m asking is what’s the logic behind the first LR spot?


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                              Not sure, that’s just what LOTV posted and it works great for me.


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                              • JaFFiTh
                                MVP
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 1685

                                #60
                                Re: AI Bullpen usage logic is the worst

                                I’ll have to test that logic out tonight whenever I get a change to play the game. Wonder how it works for season sim.


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