CPU Bullpen Management

[wizfan2]

Re: CPU Bullpen Management

Its a good point. I look at the transaction list every single day, and I can't remember seeing any pitchers being sent to the DL or sent down. IRL, they often get hurt more than position players do.

It reminds me the way Madden used to be with offensive lineman injuries, they are both intrigal to winning amd because the minor league players until this year were basically random "joes"( no offence to any actual Joe's") think about before in franchise if your star closer or top relievers get hurt you had to probaly bring up some guy with like a 50 rating, just like in Madden, who can really rate a back up offensive lineman or a reliever thats not a top pospect properly. They probably did it in a way, to balance the game in franchise.
Just my $0.02🤔

[Unlucky 13]

Re: CPU Bullpen Management

It reminds me the way Madden used to be with offensive lineman injuries, they are both intrigal to winning amd because the minor league players until this year were basically random "joes"( no offence to any actual Joe's") think about before in franchise if your star closer or top relievers get hurt you had to probaly bring up some guy with like a 50 rating, just like in Madden, who can really rate a back up offensive lineman or a reliever thats not a top pospect properly. They probably did it in a way, to balance the game in franchise.
Just my $0.02🤔

You're likely right. But I think its fun to see CPU teams get crippled by injuries like that. It makes it all so much more interesting and unpredictable. And it also forces the CPU to put guys on the 40 man roster that they otherwise wouldn't, and use up players options as well. Which in turn means that the next offseason becomes that much more interesting when they're forced to make different calls than would be obvious.

In the end, for those of us who are deep GM/Owner mode type players, it would be a big improvement to the game. A feature, not a bug!

[Guys_WhoGame]

Re: CPU Bullpen Management

I’m going to just start my franchise and let the cpu do whatever. Can’t even enjoy this mode without holding the cpu hand.

[bkrich83]

Re: CPU Bullpen Management

Here are some results of the last day simmed with my pitching sliders
CPU Starter Stamina = Maxed
CPU Reliever Stamina = 8
CPU Manager Hook = 2


Rays 10, Red Sox 2

RAYS
Morton 8 IP (allowed 2 runs on 5 hits)
Drake 1 IP

BOSTON
Perez 5.1 IP
Taylor 1.2 IP
Brasier 1.2 IP
Hembree 0.1 IP

Houston 3 Toronto 5

HOUSTON
James 5.0 IP (5 runs, 7 hits)
Peacock 3.0 IP

TORONTO
Thornton 6.0 IP
Pannone 1.0 IP
Bass 1.0 IP
Giles 1.0 IP

Baltimore 5 Minnesota 4 (10 innings)

BALTIMORE
LeBlanc 5.0 IP
Scott 1.0 IP
Armstrong 1.0 IP
Bleier 2.0 IP
Givens 1.0 IP

MINNESOTA
Pineda 6.0 IP
May 1.0 IP
Hardy 1.0 IP
Rogers 1.0 IP
Romo 1.0 IP

Reds 8 Indians 1

REDS
DeScalfani 8.0 IP (1 run 6 hits)
Strop 1.0 IP

INDIANS
Clevinger 6.0 IP
Maton 1.0 IP
Hoyt 1.2 IP
Leone 0.1 IP

Atlanta 12 St. Louis 2

ATLANTA
Hernandez 8.0 IP (2 runs 6 hits)
Jackson 1.0 IP

ST. LOUIS
Wainwright 5.0 IP (6 runs, 4 hits, pitched into the 6th.....5-1 when he left)
Gant 0.1 IP (gave up 4 runs in a 6 run 6th)
Cabrera 1.2 IP
Web 2.0 IP (Was 12-2 when he entered....mop up role)



Pretty legit results, I would say

I've gone this route with some very promising results.

[The Kid 24]

Re: CPU Bullpen Management

Not saying my sliders are perfect for both. Far from it. Your sim numbers look pretty spot on.

But for someone who wants gameplay to be good, without having to change up sliders each time they sim a day. I would take mine over yours, as for game play wise.

But obviously, the perfect solution would be a set for game play, and a set for simming.

Heck, in past years, I even used a third set for "ROAD" games where the sliders were adjusted to give the CPU a much better advantage.....making playing on the road harder than playing at home.

KTD bud, do you use your Maxed, 8, 2 setup for both playing and simming? Or do you have something different for simming?


And which setup do you recommend?
1 LRP
4 MRP
2 SU
1 CL

OR

2 LRP
4 MRP
1 SU
1 CL

[The Kid 24]

Re: CPU Bullpen Management

I've gone this route with some very promising results.

What have your bullpen sim stats been looking like?

[Cycloniac]

Re: CPU Bullpen Management

What have your bullpen sim stats been looking like?

This is the real question. I want to see some end of year bullpen numbers.

[ktd1976]

Re: CPU Bullpen Management

KTD bud, do you use your Maxed, 8, 2 setup for both playing and simming? Or do you have something different for simming?


And which setup do you recommend?
1 LRP
4 MRP
2 SU
1 CL

OR

2 LRP
4 MRP
1 SU
1 CL

Currently, I am using the same setup for both played, and sim games, as I seem to be getting pretty good results both ways. Not perfect by any means, but realistic enough.

As for which setup, it depends on the personnel in the bullpen. If you (or the CPU team) has two relievers with higher stamina (40 or higher) then I would go with the 2 LRP. 4 MRP, 1 SU, 1 CL setup.

If you (or they) have only 1 reliever with high stamina, then I would use the 1 LRP, 4 MRP, 2 SU, 1 CL set up.....keeping in mind that the only time the 2nd SU guy will pitch would be if the 1st SU guy is gassed.

In a perfect world, the first set up would be best, but not every team keeps two "long men" in the bullpen at one time.

[The Kid 24]

Re: CPU Bullpen Management

Currently, I am using the same setup for both played, and sim games, as I seem to be getting pretty good results both ways. Not perfect by any means, but realistic enough.

As for which setup, it depends on the personnel in the bullpen. If you (or the CPU team) has two relievers with higher stamina (40 or higher) then I would go with the 2 LRP. 4 MRP, 1 SU, 1 CL setup.

If you (or they) have only 1 reliever with high stamina, then I would use the 1 LRP, 4 MRP, 2 SU, 1 CL set up.....keeping in mind that the only time the 2nd SU guy will pitch would be if the 1st SU guy is gassed.

In a perfect world, the first set up would be best, but not every team keeps two "long men" in the bullpen at one time.

Ok got it, I'm gonna test out your settings in my Franchise then for both playing and simming.

That's the thing with the 2 SU setup, I want SU guys to come in when they should be.

And you're right, teams only have 1 LRP... Which leads me to I'm not sure which setup to do.

[bkrich83]

Re: CPU Bullpen Management

What have your bullpen sim stats been looking like?

You mean for CPU teams? Not sure.

[The Kid 24]

Re: CPU Bullpen Management

You mean for CPU teams? Not sure.

How about the teams you’ve played against then?


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[garry1221]

Re: CPU Bullpen Management

As a purely sim guy, manager hook on 0 looks best as far as bullpen usage. I haven't simmed out a full year yet, but from what I've seen in smaller tests over a handful of teams, it's encouraging. Strictly looking at the pen, I rarely see 2 IP/game unless its the LRP or MR at the end of a blowout. SP are easily going an average of 6 per start. Thus far, a SP hasn't gotten pulled in under 5 IP unless he's given up at least 6 earned.

These initial tests are with SP sta at 5, RP sta at 6, hook 0. With hook at 1, 2 or 3, I started noticing more 2 IP/game more often and earlier in game.

[bkrich83]

Re: CPU Bullpen Management

How about the teams you’ve played against then?


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When I get some time, I'll go pull some boxscores tonight or tomorrow.

[bkrich83]

Re: CPU Bullpen Management

I realize this is a dumb question, so forgive me as I haven't dove in to the minutiae of the sim engine like some of you guys have (and thank you for that) but are we 1000% sure these sliders affect bullpen usage in simmmed games? We know this as absolue fact?

[garry1221]

Re: CPU Bullpen Management

I realize this is a dumb question, so forgive me as I haven't dove in to the minutiae of the sim engine like some of you guys have (and thank you for that) but are we 1000% sure these sliders affect bullpen usage in simmmed games? We know this as absolue fact?

Absolute fact? No. Just a lot of testing with bullpen personnel set in different places. Then praying end of year stats come close to RL as we can hope for. For me, its seeing my best MR's pitch more often than the worst; as close as possible to 1 IP/game played. Though trending down, I like seeing ~20 starters average 6 innings/start.

Before the last couple of days I was wary of moving the hook too low, but seeing some stats posted here made me curious myself. The description of the hook slider states 'situation is still dominant factor' made me think zeroing it out could negate any influence and strictly rely on situation. That theory may have teeth.