CPU Bullpen Management

[bravesfan1984]

Re: CPU Bullpen Management

I would point out that the default setup is tuned for online play.

The devs encourage using sliders. Or at least Brian has in the past.

I use Josh's sliders and his explanations on how things work and impact gameplay make me hesistant to go down the rabbit hole. I like to avoid slideritis lol

[Cycloniac]

Re: CPU Bullpen Management

Some tidbits from our roster thread that I thought I would share on the bullpen logic, and what I've been experimenting with this year:

The main issue is that the CPU doesn't use SU relievers properly. I try to make sure there are no pitchers in the LRP spots, if possible. I am also rotating the SU relievers for whatever MRPs have the most innings about every 8 games or so, to help better balance bullpen usage.

For closers, the CPU will sometimes put other players in the CP spot. I will allow this until the replacement gets at least 1 save, then switch back the regular CP. This will help with save opportunities.

For example, Craig Kimbrel is the Cubs closer. I saw the AI replace Kimbrel with Rowan Wick after Kimbrel struggled a bit. After Wick gets a save or two, I replace him with Kimbrel. I check the bullpens before my games (I play 1 out of every 4 games). If Kimbrel is replaced by Wick again, I will replace Wick with the SU reliever or someone else who has either been pitching well or is close to Wick in OVR.

[knucklecutter]

Re: CPU Bullpen Management

I use 7 for all pitchers stamina and I've been bouncing between 6 and 7 for the hook which is basically the same as TheWarmWind's suggestions and the game's playing great for me. More of you should give it an honest try.

[The Kid 24]

Re: CPU Bullpen Management

I use 7 for all pitchers stamina and I've been bouncing between 6 and 7 for the hook which is basically the same as TheWarmWind's suggestions and the game's playing great for me. More of you should give it an honest try.

AI's usage against you and sim stats have been good?

[Cycloniac]

Re: CPU Bullpen Management

I would caution persons against raising the starter stamina, reliever stamina, and manager hook sliders during simulated games because:
-You will see the infamous complete game issue from SPs and IPs will be high league-wide
-You will see low ERAs league-wide

[The Kid 24]

Re: CPU Bullpen Management

I would caution persons against raising the starter stamina, reliever stamina, and manager hook sliders during simulated games because:
-You will see the infamous complete game issue from SPs and IPs will be high league-wide
-You will see low ERAs league-wide

I havent checked out your sim sliders yet... What #'s do you have for those three?

[Cycloniac]

Re: CPU Bullpen Management

I havent checked out your sim sliders yet... What #'s do you have for those three?

Starter stamina: 1
Reliever stamina: 0
Manager Hook: 0

Box score examples from April 19th in my franchise:
CLE: 5R 7H 0E
BOS: 6R 9H 1E

Boston:
Perez: 5 IP, 6H, 4ER, 2BB, 3K
Brice (W): 2 IP, 2Ks
Hembree: 1 IP. 1K
Workman (SV): 1 IP, 1H, 1K

Cleveland:
Carasco: 4.2 IP, 5H, 3ER, 1BB, 5K
Hoyt (L): 0.2 IP, 3H, 3ER, 1BB
Wittgren: 1.1 IP, 1H, 3BB
Maton: 0.1 IP, 1K
Clase: 1 IP



DET: 2R, 7H, 0E
MIN: 1R, 10H, 0E

Detroit:
Turnbull: 6.1 IP, 8H, 1ER, 1K
Cisnero (W): 0.2 IP, 1H, 1BB
Garcia: 1 IP, 1H, 1K
Jimenez (SV): 1 IP

Minnesota:
Odorizzi (L): 7.1 IP, 5H, 2ER, 4BB, 11K
Romo (BS): 0.2 IP, 1H, 2BB, 1K
Clippard: 1 IP, 1H, 1K

[ktd1976]

Re: CPU Bullpen Management

I would caution persons against raising the starter stamina, reliever stamina, and manager hook sliders during simulated games because:
-You will see the infamous complete game issue from SPs and IPs will be high league-wide
-You will see low ERAs league-wide

Then the solution for balance with sim games and played games would be to have a separate slider set when simming games.

With Starter slider at 1, in played games, the starter gets gassed way too soon.

I'm not seeing the low ERA/High complete games in my Franchise.....

[Cycloniac]

Re: CPU Bullpen Management

Then the solution for balance with sim games and played games would be to have a separate slider set when simming games.

With Starter slider at 1, in played games, the starter gets gassed way too soon.

I'm not seeing the low ERA/High complete games in my Franchise.....

You're absolutely right

That's what I suggest: one set for simulating games, one set for playing games

What is the team ERA for the 15th highest team in your franchise right now?

[ktd1976]

Re: CPU Bullpen Management

You're absolutely right

That's what I suggest: one set for simulating games, one set for playing games

What is the team ERA for the 15th highest team in your franchise right now?

Tampa Bay Rays. Team ERA of 4.08.

Team ERA's range from 3.03 (Dodgers) to 5.67 (Pirates)

My user team, the Tigers is 2nd at 3.19

[ktd1976]

Re: CPU Bullpen Management

They are actually pretty darn close.

in 2019, the 15th ranked team, the Giants had a team ERA of 4.31. Not much higher than 4.08

In 2018, the 15th team was the Nationals, at 4.04....even closer.

[Cycloniac]

Re: CPU Bullpen Management

Tampa Bay Rays. Team ERA of 4.08.

Team ERA's range from 3.03 (Dodgers) to 5.67 (Pirates)

My user team, the Tigers is 2nd at 3.19

That range is good, though the 15th is a bit low

[ktd1976]

Re: CPU Bullpen Management

That range is good, though the 15th is a bit low

Depends on the year, though. Like I said, in 2018, the 15th team was at 4.04. Lower than what it is in my current Franchise.

[Cycloniac]

Re: CPU Bullpen Management

They are actually pretty darn close.

in 2019, the 15th ranked team, the Giants had a team ERA of 4.31. Not much higher than 4.08

In 2018, the 15th team was the Nationals, at 4.04....even closer.

I gave the staminas at 7, with hook at 6 a try.

These were my results (default rosters used):

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League average ERA: 3.99
2019 MLB league average: 4.51
2018 MLB league average: 4.15
2017 MLB league average: 4.36

Team ERA
LAD 3.03
MIN 3.04
HOU 3.49
CIN 3.62
ATL 3.66
WSH 3.7
CLE 3.7
OAK 3.71
NYY 3.71
COL 3.72
SDP 3.82
PIT 3.91
SFG 3.91
MIA 3.99
TOR 4.01
CHC 4.04
SEA 4.07
TB 4.09
STL 4.09
TEX 4.1
BOS 4.11
LAA 4.12
NYM 4.12
MIL 4.19
CWS 4.28
PHI 4.33
ARZ 4.48
KC 4.53
BAL 4.88
DET 5.18

These are the results with my suggested settings (default rosters used):

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League Average ERA: 4.56

Team ERA
LAD 3.33
CHC 3.85
NYY 4
PHI 4
HOU 4.03
ARZ 4.23
WSH 4.24
CWS 4.24
BOS 4.27
COL 4.27
OAK 4.28
NYM 4.31
MIN 4.5
SDP 4.6
CLE 4.62
TEX 4.63
TOR 4.68
TB 4.71
ATL 4.72
KC 4.74
MIL 4.8
STL 4.81
LAA 4.81
MIA 4.93
SFG 4.95
PIT 4.96
CIN 4.97
DET 5.44
OAK 5.46
SEA 5.67

[ktd1976]

Re: CPU Bullpen Management

I gave the staminas at 7, with hook at 6 a try.

These were my results (default rosters used):

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League average ERA: 3.99
2019 MLB league average: 4.51
2018 MLB league average: 4.15
2017 MLB league average: 4.36

Team ERA
LAD 3.03
MIN 3.04
HOU 3.49
CIN 3.62
ATL 3.66
WSH 3.7
CLE 3.7
OAK 3.71
NYY 3.71
COL 3.72
SDP 3.82
PIT 3.91
SFG 3.91
MIA 3.99
TOR 4.01
CHC 4.04
SEA 4.07
TB 4.09
STL 4.09
TEX 4.1
BOS 4.11
LAA 4.12
NYM 4.12
MIL 4.19
CWS 4.28
PHI 4.33
ARZ 4.48
KC 4.53
BAL 4.88
DET 5.18

These are the results with my suggested settings (default rosters used):

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League Average ERA: 4.56

Team ERA
LAD 3.33
CHC 3.85
NYY 4
PHI 4
HOU 4.03
ARZ 4.23
WSH 4.24
CWS 4.24
BOS 4.27
COL 4.27
OAK 4.28
NYM 4.31
MIN 4.5
SDP 4.6
CLE 4.62
TEX 4.63
TOR 4.68
TB 4.71
ATL 4.72
KC 4.74
MIL 4.8
STL 4.81
LAA 4.81
MIA 4.93
SFG 4.95
PIT 4.96
CIN 4.97
DET 5.44
OAK 5.46
SEA 5.67

Not saying my sliders are perfect for both. Far from it. Your sim numbers look pretty spot on.

But for someone who wants gameplay to be good, without having to change up sliders each time they sim a day. I would take mine over yours, as for game play wise.

But obviously, the perfect solution would be a set for game play, and a set for simming.

Heck, in past years, I even used a third set for "ROAD" games where the sliders were adjusted to give the CPU a much better advantage.....making playing on the road harder than playing at home.