MLB The Show 22 Trade Discussion Thread

[kinsmen7]

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What else would Anaheim have to send? I was thinking if they take on the entirety of the contract it would even out. Have they given up on Addell? Could he be included. I could always roll with Kim at SS or Cronenworth. I resigned Drury so he could be my 2B.


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Ehhhh, it's hard to say. It's a tough one. I don't think you're going to get fair value, but hilariously the top 3 value players on the Angels combined don't even get close to Tatis Jr's *current* value.

That being said, you are the one that wants to dump him, and you want Ohtani (extended). Maybe go Ohtani+Addell+prospect?

[JWDixon120]

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I have a dilemma. I want to start a new franchise with the post trade deadline rosters. The choices are down to the Braves or Brewers. I like the Braves cause using Harris and Strider would be exciting. But I am leaning towards the Brewers cause I want to play in the NL Central. I played a whole season with the Braves last year as well. So wanting something different. But I would love to trade for Strider and Harris. But not sure how realistic that would be. I know it is my franchise and I want to make it fun for me. But if it’s going to be a unrealistic trade, I will feel like it’s cheating. The numbers match up on the trade simulator.



Brewers trade

Corbin Burnes 95.9

Freddy Peralta 66.9



Total: 162.80



Braves trade

Ian Anderson 19.4

Vaughan Grissom 20.1

Michael Harris 87.6

Spencer Strider 36.5



Total: 163.60



Braves would be another ace and a good pitcher in Peralta. But I feel the Braves wouldn’t trade their top OF prospect. I could also throw in Tyrone Taylor for them.



What are your thoughts?

Well it is YOUR franchise so do what’s fun to you! But coming from an ATL fan, this deal would never happen from a realism standpoint. The Braves very rarely move young talent and when they do, the players don’t pan out.

My thought process is this trade doesn’t really benefit the Braves very much. They lose their franchise CF (big value position), a future 1-2 SP, A very solid IF Prospect, and a SP in Ian Anderson who has a very strong postseason track record.

In return they get an Ace in Burnes but they already have Fried, Soroka, and Morton which is a very solid playoff rotation, and again would be giving up Strider to do so. They also get Peralta who obviously is very solid but the Braves don’t really need SP help at this time.

Tyrone Taylor wouldn’t budge the needle in the deal.

The Braves biggest organizational needs are Corner OF and that’s basically it.
Braves also rarely trade for superstar talent and build from within with the exception of Olson which was out of necessity.

But again, it’s your franchise man! I’m a Braves fan and use them every year and strider and Harris are a blast to play with so go get them if you’re not overly concerned with realism!

[kinsmen7]

Re: MLB The Show 22 Trade Discussion Thread

What does anyone think a trade of Sean Murphy to White Sox would look like? On the trade simulator a combination of Garrett Chrochet, Michael Kopech,and Oscar Colas got the Sox close with a combined value of 46.8 and Murphy a value of 47.5. However I feel like this would be a massive overpay but curious what anyone else thinks?

I always have trouble valuing a catcher, mainly because it's rare that you can get one with solid offensive upside like Murphy.

Since WAR is a large factor in valuing these guys, you pretty much just need to look and see that Murphy has produced over 2 times the amount that Kopech has, over (roughly) the same amount of service time.

That being said, I guess you've got to ask yourself if (in this scenario) you want to give up (roughly) 25 starts with sub 4 ERA for a catcher that's solid defensively with a decent (for a catcher) bat.

Honestly, if it were me, I'd just be going pure-futures for Murphy. Oakland has moved just about everyone on their roster who are in their ARB years, and are cheap AF. Crochet is a beauty, but is a cheap reliever what Oakland would be looking for?

Something like Montgomery+Colas could make sense, or, if you want to be wild, work some sort of 3 way deal out where Crochet goes to another team.

Just something interesting that I thought up-The White Sox end up winning this a bit, but it could be adjusted slightly.

CHW get: Murphy
TOR get: Crochet
OAK get: Orelvis Martinez (BJ's), Sem Robberse (BJ's), Oscar Colas (CHW), Bryan Ramos (CHW-I think Noah Schultz will be worth more soon, so while subbing him in would be more of an underpay, it might be a better long-game play?)

Toronto comes out with about a $0.9 mil overpay, the Sox are about a $5 mil underpay, and the Athletics get shafted by $4.1 mil.

Toronto gets the high-upside LHRP that they desperately need, you get the catcher you want, and the Athletics get 3 strong prospects and a lotto ticket. If you wanted to make it fair, you could throw in another lotto ticket from Chicago's end, but I feel like receiving 5 players for 1 would be a bit weird? No idea. Maybe I'm way off here

[JWDixon120]

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I always have trouble valuing a catcher, mainly because it's rare that you can get one with solid offensive upside like Murphy.



Since WAR is a large factor in valuing these guys, you pretty much just need to look and see that Murphy has produced over 2 times the amount that Kopech has, over (roughly) the same amount of service time.



That being said, I guess you've got to ask yourself if (in this scenario) you want to give up (roughly) 25 starts with sub 4 ERA for a catcher that's solid defensively with a decent (for a catcher) bat.



Honestly, if it were me, I'd just be going pure-futures for Murphy. Oakland has moved just about everyone on their roster who are in their ARB years, and are cheap AF. Crochet is a beauty, but is a cheap reliever what Oakland would be looking for?



Something like Montgomery+Colas could make sense, or, if you want to be wild, work some sort of 3 way deal out where Crochet goes to another team.



Just something interesting that I thought up-The White Sox end up winning this a bit, but it could be adjusted slightly.



CHW get: Murphy

TOR get: Crochet

OAK get: Orelvis Martinez (BJ's), Sem Robberse (BJ's), Oscar Colas (CHW), Bryan Ramos (CHW-I think Noah Schultz will be worth more soon, so while subbing him in would be more of an underpay, it might be a better long-game play?)



Toronto comes out with about a $0.9 mil overpay, the Sox are about a $5 mil underpay, and the Athletics get shafted by $4.1 mil.



Toronto gets the high-upside LHRP that they desperately need, you get the catcher you want, and the Athletics get 3 strong prospects and a lotto ticket. If you wanted to make it fair, you could throw in another lotto ticket from Chicago's end, but I feel like receiving 5 players for 1 would be a bit weird? No idea. Maybe I'm way off here

This is a sidebar but it’s way overdue MLBTS makes catchers defense actually matter.

You can basically put anyone behind the plate as long as they have a decent arm. Fielding rating doesn’t seem to do anything when it should really determine the calls you get off the plate (framing).

Try running a bad defensive catcher out in OOTP and your pitching staff is in trouble, albeit it is Overpowered lol.

[jcar0725]

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This is a sidebar but it’s way overdue MLBTS makes catchers defense actually matter.

You can basically put anyone behind the plate as long as they have a decent arm. Fielding rating doesn’t seem to do anything when it should really determine the calls you get off the plate (framing).

Try running a bad defensive catcher out in OOTP and your pitching staff is in trouble, albeit it is Overpowered lol.

I don't know about that. I've had catchers with poor accuracy pretty much never throw a guy out trying to steal unless the throw got there a mile before the runner because the throw is never accurate. On the flip side, catchers with good arm strength and accuracy the CPU just can't run on.

And I've also had poor defensive catchers have 1-2 passed balls per game, and the good ones block everything in sight.

Unless you're specifically talking only about framing, then I misunderstood. But defensive ratings other than framing definitely do matter.

[decga]

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Playing a Braves Franchise on MLBTS22.
Marlins SP Luzardo has dominant stuff, fall off the plate 12CV & high velo for his 4SFB & 2SFB! I want this guy in my rotation. They're not using him in the starting rotation, spot starting & Long reilef.

They want SS Dansby Swanson (.254/.294/.303) 0HR,13RBI thru 50 games played & 180AB. Obviously this not the real life Dansby. Defensively wonderful.

I proposed them this deal: Braves SP Luzardo, SS Miguel Rojas( 2yrs/10.2mil remaining) & SP E. Hernandez. Marlins get SS Swanson FA at years end & SP Morton FA at years end.

I'll be saving $25MIL if I do this deal.
I'm currently in 6-game losing strk, batting the Mets(32-21) & I'm 30-22 for 1st in the East. Marlins are in last place double digits GB of 1st.

We are currently playing the Marlins, series finale up next. Braves SP Morton not scheduled to start until Monday when we Start a big time series with the D-backs who leading the WC over us.

Finger is itchy and about to pull the trigger. We got to shake it up! Don't y'all think!

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[CBoller1331]

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From the Marlins perspective I think you would have to give up more players with control instead of two pending free agents. Swanson/Morton dont really do them any good unless they are pushing for a playoff spot l, but you mentioned they are in last place. They wouldnt give up a young pitcher with 4 years of control for two rental players in they are not contending

Plus Rojas and Hernandez have multiple years of control as well

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[decga]

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I am not shooting for fair. That's what they offer me. But in real life doesn't make sense! Darn MLB the Show logic, but I'm doing it!

Thank you fellow long time player

From the Marlins perspective I think you would have to give up more players with control instead of two pending free agents. Swanson/Morton dont really do them any good unless they are pushing for a playoff spot l, but you mentioned they are in last place. They wouldnt give up a young pitcher with 4 years of control for two rental players in they are not contending

Plus Rojas and Hernandez have multiple years of control as well

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[decga]

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From the Marlins perspective I think you would have to give up more players with control instead of two pending free agents. Swanson/Morton dont really do them any good unless they are pushing for a playoff spot l, but you mentioned they are in last place. They wouldnt give up a young pitcher with 4 years of control for two rental players in they are not contending

Plus Rojas and Hernandez have multiple years of control as well

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I forgot to do something at the start of my franchise, which I assumed the roster I downloaded. Which was adjusting player's potential! Morton potential was at 99, I dropped it to 79. Dansby potential is 85, I left his where it was.

They may not take the deal now. But the main components of the deal was Luzardo for Dansby. They have SS as one of their needs!

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[malaika445]

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really a great thread i appreciate it.

[Bgrd1080]

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Year 2 with The Nationals. Lost 106 games last year. Brought up Cavali and signed Benintendi and Syndegaard to large 2 yr deals just hoping to break 75 wins and hopefully compete the following year. In my story they're here to help develop the young guys and get a payday. We paid them well!
My issue is there any realistic move to get rid of Strasburg or Corbin? Corbin has a 5 ERA and Strasburg has pitched 8 games in 2 seasons. Not even a competitor down the stretch would take them would they? Is cutting either an option realistically?

[jcar0725]

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Year 2 with The Nationals. Lost 106 games last year. Brought up Cavali and signed Benintendi and Syndegaard to large 2 yr deals just hoping to break 75 wins and hopefully compete the following year. In my story they're here to help develop the young guys and get a payday. We paid them well!
My issue is there any realistic move to get rid of Strasburg or Corbin? Corbin has a 5 ERA and Strasburg has pitched 8 games in 2 seasons. Not even a competitor down the stretch would take them would they? Is cutting either an option realistically?

You could look for a pitching starved team that is ready to make a leap to contention and trade Strasburg there but only would likely get maybe a B rated prospect in return, and just pretend he's healthy. He would have to go to a team that doesn't have a tight budget though. I would think Corbin would just be a candidate for release.

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[zippy2212]

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Just started a franchise in 22, 1st New franchise since 14, and I'm looking to add some speed to my Cubs team. Just played a 3 game set with the Ray's and noticed Vidal Bujan. He is hitting .139 on the season playing sparingly behind Lowe and Franco. As a former top 5 Ray's prospect, what would be a fair offer?

[TripleCrown9]

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Hey guys, first time posting in this thread ever as I never make manual trades in The Show because I only play as the Sox and I get way too attached to the real life players to get rid of their digital counterparts.

BUT....

I found a package (Bobby Dalbec, Josh Taylor, and a minor league 2B) that will get me either Spencer Torkelson or Andrew Vaughn, and that is incredibly tempting.

The same package would also get me Ryan Mountcastle, Josh Naylor, Miguel Sano, Jared Walsh, or Nathaniel Lowe (not counting the older players because I'm trying to get a little younger).

So should I get Torkelson or Vaughn?

[kinsmen7]

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Question...just picked up '22 and am rolling with the Rockies.

I feel like the White Sox want to be competitive, but there's also talk that they may potentially look to unload Liam Hendricks.

IMO, a good spot to upgrade for Chicago would be at 3B...Moncada was absolutely brutal last year, and, if they're going for it, could be replaced.

I've got Ryan McMahon ($11.6 mil), and they've got Moncada (-$11.7).

I'm assuming the Sox wouldn't go nuts and move Colas ($15.6)+Schultz ($5.9) to make up the difference (Which would still leave it short)?