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  • bryanm1982
    MVP
    • Nov 2016
    • 3792

    #241
    Re: MLB The Show 23 Technical Test Has Begun - Post Your Impressions Here

    Originally posted by bronxbombers21325
    I still don’t understand what the point of changing this was, other than to be able to say they’d changed something. Change for the sake of change is rarely a good thing. I’m not really liking what I’ve seen of it so far, but hopefully the more I play the more it evens out.
    Next year’s selling point will be going back to contact rating.
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    • baseballguy99
      Pro
      • Mar 2019
      • 934

      #242
      Re: MLB The Show 23 Technical Test Has Begun - Post Your Impressions Here

      Originally posted by countryboy
      Yeah this was one of the bigger concerns I had with gameplay changes and I'm starting to really worry about this and how it will effect the stat lines over the course of a 162 game season.

      I submitted my concern via the tech test feedback on their site.

      Totally agree, a poor design choice that wasn’t necessary at all IMO

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      • KnightTemplar
        MVP
        • Feb 2017
        • 3282

        #243
        Re: MLB The Show 23 Technical Test Has Begun - Post Your Impressions Here

        Originally posted by DonkeyJote
        Yeah, I understand, what I'm saying is that the Tech Test ratings are the exact ratings from the November Ratings Update last year. I'm confident those won't be the launch rosters.

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        Hope so, bro. Just trying to lay out some concerns for them to see. This clutch significance has to come from somewhere. Just hoping it’s not across the board.

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        • NYJin2011tm
          MVP
          • Oct 2011
          • 2763

          #244
          Re: MLB The Show 23 Technical Test Has Begun - Post Your Impressions Here

          Not a fan of the beta so far. Hit variety has been nice but bat sounds have been terrible using same setup(PlayStation wireless headset). On my end previous years sound so much better. Perfect perfect sounds like good on previous games and good and less contact sounds like weak on previous games.

          I don’t like all that advance stuff on the screen now either. The fun factor just seems off for me as opposed to previous versions this gen.

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          • Caulfield
            Hall Of Fame
            • Apr 2011
            • 10986

            #245
            Re: MLB The Show 23 Technical Test Has Begun - Post Your Impressions Here

            I use pitcher zoom camera angle every year, this camera zoom seems a little more zoomed than last year, but I'm not 100% positive it is
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            • Caulfield
              Hall Of Fame
              • Apr 2011
              • 10986

              #246
              Re: MLB The Show 23 Technical Test Has Begun - Post Your Impressions Here

              crack of the bat definitely needs a little more crack to it

              EDIT: and the rosters are a part of that Work In Progress, Dalton Guthrie still needs his 2022 stats added
              Last edited by Caulfield; 02-18-2023, 11:22 AM.
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              • KnightTemplar
                MVP
                • Feb 2017
                • 3282

                #247
                Re: MLB The Show 23 Technical Test Has Begun - Post Your Impressions Here

                Always been auto field/manual throw. Trying out manual field/auto throw for a change….like it.

                Strike outs…..I’m on AS (normal for me). Striking out far too many batters (I’m using my pitchers like it’s spring training). 13 Astros thru 7 in my game right now. Every game in double digits.

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                • bronxbombers21325
                  MVP
                  • Mar 2012
                  • 3058

                  #248
                  Re: MLB The Show 23 Technical Test Has Begun - Post Your Impressions Here

                  Originally posted by Caulfield
                  crack of the bat definitely needs a little more crack to it

                  EDIT: and the rosters are a part of that Work In Progress, Dalton Guthrie still needs his 2022 stats added
                  I smoked a no doubt double into the gap a few minutes ago and it sounded like I barely tapped the ball. It’s really starting to feel like they phoned this one in.

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                  • countryboy
                    Growing pains
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 52784

                    #249
                    Re: MLB The Show 23 Technical Test Has Begun - Post Your Impressions Here

                    After a few more games, I'm going to walk back my comments in regards to clutch. I'm not saying that its not overpowered and perfect as is, but I'm also not saying that its as arcadey/easy/gimmicky as I was thinking the other day.

                    Its hard to get a gauge on it using the tech test because in the options explorer some of the attributes of players are inflated and when playing in DD to use lower level guys, the test is locked on competitive gameplay style, so I can't play true to my style of play in the tech test to really get a feel for just how this is working and influencing the gameplay and stats turned out.

                    Aside from this and the bat sounds being hit or miss, haha, the tech test plays a damn good game of baseball.
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                    • jcar0725
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                      • Aug 2010
                      • 3821

                      #250
                      Re: MLB The Show 23 Technical Test Has Begun - Post Your Impressions Here

                      Originally posted by bronxbombers21325
                      I smoked a no doubt double into the gap a few minutes ago and it sounded like I barely tapped the ball. It’s really starting to feel like they phoned this one in.
                      I'm hearing various comments on the ball sounds off the bat, good and bad. I'm pretty sure this has been an early issue in past versions of the show that they eventually fixed.

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                      • Jolly Roger
                        Prince of Plakata
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 871

                        #251
                        Re: MLB The Show 23 Technical Test Has Begun - Post Your Impressions Here

                        I think the divergence on whether we like the bat sounds is because it sounds different than last year, and more like wood on baseball, but it sounds kinda weak. So, good that is sounds more like bat on ball, maybe bad that it doesn't sound like a nice solid crack.

                        With Clutch, have you guys been paying attention to the hitter's L/R rating? A lot of those Astros players are going to have high contact L/R anyway. My concern is guys with, say, 30 contact L but 90 clutch hitting .280 against lefties with RISP. If they would've hit .220 but are now hitting .250 with RISP because of their high Clutch, fair enough. It's easier to hit with RISP anyway since the pitcher is more likely to pitch around you if first is open or come after you if not.

                        But if it's completely replacing Contact L/R, that's no good. They said Contact L/R would be weighted in.

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                        • Caulfield
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 10986

                          #252
                          Re: MLB The Show 23 Technical Test Has Begun - Post Your Impressions Here

                          Originally posted by countryboy
                          ...Its hard to get a gauge on it using the tech test because in the options explorer some of the attributes of players are inflated and when playing in DD to use lower level guys, the test is locked on competitive gameplay style, so I can't play true to my style of play in the tech test to really get a feel for just how this is working and influencing the gameplay and stats turned out.
                          I was able to change mine from Competitive to Simulation, even able to change hitting and pitching difficulty level to Dynamic

                          Originally posted by jcar0725
                          I'm hearing various comments on the ball sounds off the bat, good and bad. I'm pretty sure this has been an early issue in past versions of the show that they eventually fixed.
                          yeah, every year or every other year it seems like the bat sounds are fine after the first patch



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                          • countryboy
                            Growing pains
                            • Sep 2003
                            • 52784

                            #253
                            Re: MLB The Show 23 Technical Test Has Begun - Post Your Impressions Here

                            Originally posted by Caulfield
                            I was able to change mine from Competitive to Simulation, even able to change hitting and pitching difficulty level to Dynamic

                            yeah, every year or every other year it seems like the bat sounds are fine after the first patch



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                            I looked and it was locked. Only saw where I could pick difficulty level


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                            • Caulfield
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 10986

                              #254
                              Re: MLB The Show 23 Technical Test Has Begun - Post Your Impressions Here

                              Originally posted by countryboy
                              For DD?

                              I looked and it was locked. Only saw where I could pick difficulty level


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                              oh, no sorry, my reading comprehension is on vacation lol I haven't played DD yet, just some Philly-Houston games
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                              • TripleCrown
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                                • Jan 2013
                                • 1240

                                #255
                                Re: MLB The Show 23 Technical Test Has Begun - Post Your Impressions Here

                                Originally posted by Jolly Roger
                                I think the divergence on whether we like the bat sounds is because it sounds different than last year, and more like wood on baseball, but it sounds kinda weak. So, good that is sounds more like bat on ball, maybe bad that it doesn't sound like a nice solid crack.

                                With Clutch, have you guys been paying attention to the hitter's L/R rating? A lot of those Astros players are going to have high contact L/R anyway. My concern is guys with, say, 30 contact L but 90 clutch hitting .280 against lefties with RISP. If they would've hit .220 but are now hitting .250 with RISP because of their high Clutch, fair enough. It's easier to hit with RISP anyway since the pitcher is more likely to pitch around you if first is open or come after you if not.

                                But if it's completely replacing Contact L/R, that's no good. They said Contact L/R would be weighted in.
                                Same concern here.

                                I checked a few cases to see real life cases of clutch on RISP splits.

                                By example, for 2022 F. Freeman :

                                Vs RHP = .338
                                Vs LHP = .294
                                With RISP = .391

                                Freeman is a good hitter on both sides so i tried to find who’s crunching one side but having trouble the other side.

                                I went with 2021 season for Harper.

                                Vs RHP = .333
                                Vs LHP = .257
                                With RISP = .330

                                So is Harper a clutch hitter or not ? Mmm….interesting. The stats I’m looking for is a splitted RISP average. I searched many sites from bbref, savant, fangraphs but can’t find split values for RISP. It would be a pretty good indicator if it makes sense to use clutch instead of R or L contact. If someone can find a site with that info…

                                So as Jolly mentioned, using a 90 clutch against lefties when the guy is a 30 contact hitter would generate really inflated RBI. Will be interesting to see full year simulation once game is released.

                                At this point, adding another slider for Clutch influence would have made everybody happy. 10 being clutch is used when RISP and 0 being clutch not used at all ( or minimal implication) with 5 being a mid-influence of both.

                                I’m suspecting this change is another DD pleasing change (like Discipline disconnected from check swings) and not a simulation stats one.

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