MLB The Show 23 Technical Test Has Begun - Post Your Impressions Here

[countryboy]

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Ok I completed my 3 game series where I recorded clutch. In games 2 and 3, I didn't do the full at-bat breakdown for games 2 and 3.

The settings are default Legend - Zone Hitting - Meter Pitching

All 3 games played at Petco Park in April at 7pm.

All 3 games I was the Astros.

Game 1:

Astros won 3-2

Combined RISP stats - 4 for 19 (.210 avg)

K - 8
BB - 0
DP - 0
HR - 0
1B - 4
2B - 0
3B - 0
HBP - 1

Game 2:

Phillies won 7-3

Combined RISP stats - 7 for 23 (.304 avg)

K - 7
BB - 3
DP - 1
HR - 1
1B - 5
2B - 1
3B - 0
HBP - 0

Game 3:

Phillies won 8-0

Combined RISP stats - 3 for 13 (.230 avg)

K - 2
BB - 0
DP - 0
HR - 1
1B - 2
2B - 0
3B - 0
HBP - 0

Total combined stats for all 3 games:

RISP - 14 for 55 (.255 avg)

K - 17
BB - 3
DP - 1
HR - 2
1B - 11
2B - 1
3B - 0
HBP - 1

I understand that this is relatively small sample size, but all in all things look good from my perspective.

Bring on March 24th!

[DonkeyJote]

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Pitching. I use pinpoint pitching on legend. I strike out a ton of people. More than I did in '22. And the CPU is still swinging a lot at balls out of the strike zone. I also still see a lot of foul balls. Now it does depend on what pitcher you are pitching with as the elite pitchers will get their fair share of strike outs. Just in my experience, the strike outs are a lot more than last year. I don't feel that pin point pitching is challenging enough but I stick with it because to me the mechanics feel more natural.

I haven't gone in and recorded a bunch of stuff this year like I did last. But I will say this in regards to what I found last. The CPU swing rates are actually pretty damn good (including pitching on legend). I just went back and checked my data, and in the 39 games I had recorded, the CPU chase rates averaged out to 29.6%. Meaning the CPU swung at an average of 29.6% of pitches out of the zone. That's actually on the low end of what you see in real life. In 2022, MLB teams ranged from a low of 29.4% (Dodgers) to a high of 36.7% (Tigers) with an average of 32.6%. Major League hitters swung at nearly 1 out of every 3 pitches out of the zone in 2022, which is a lot more than I think most people realize.

To a degree, foul ball rates are the same thing. I think they're just a lot more common than people realize, and so it seems off to people. In my testing, the CPU foul ball rates averaged at 27.3% (that is to say 27.3% of all strikes were foul balls). Irl, the range for that in 2022 was 26.6% (Pirates) to 29% (Braves), and an average of 28.2%. Granted, this was with Foul Ball Frequency bouncing between 2 and 3, but honestly, I probably should have raised that a tick. (My own foul ball rates were lower, despite Foul Frequency mostly being between 5 and 7).

The "foul ball problem" mostly, imo, comes from three things. One being foul balls happen a lot more frequently irl than people realize, two being that total foul numbers are higher because both humans and the CPU throw in the zone too often on default (only about 40% of pitches should be in the zone, but the CPU was closer to 50% on default, and humans tend to be much higher than that), and three being foul balls on pitches way out of the zone being tuned that way to compensate for the fact that most players have atrocious plate discipline.

Now, again, these were my findings with the game last year. I haven't played against the CPU at all in the Tech Test. Just pointing out that it being the same in those areas isn't necessarily a bad thing, as that's already a lot closer to real life than most think, imo.

Fielder Reaction. This is one of my main gripes. Since I strike out so many people, I feel like my fielders get bored or distracted, because when a ball is hit to them, they more often than not are late to react, take a wrong first step or just simply realize they are actually in the field and have to run after the ball. I have seen this happen more in the tech test than in '22. Now most times I am still able to make the play but the slow reaction animation happens a lot from my experience.

This happened in '22 a lot if you put someone out of position in the outfield, but I see this happen more in the tech test with people who should be in that position.

That was one of the features discussed in the feature premiere stream. That's very much by design. Players with a lower fielding attribute (not reaction, though; from what they were saying that seems to be a mostly useless attribute now) will more frequently get bad jumps. Means bad fielders have way less range. But good fielders still have essentially the same range (which is probably still too much range, imo).





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[LastActionHero]

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So after a few games under the belt I think the gameplay is solid as always and the dynamic throwing meter is more than welcome.

I really like the new bat sounds, sometimes the sound was a bit off compared to the hit but that will probably be fixed when the game is launched.

Saw some new animations.

A lot of new osd’s look sharp and fresh but man it looks like SDS thinks everyone is playing on a 70” tv or are sitting in front of a monitor because they get smaller every year! Try reading the speeds of the pitches when your at bat when pressing R2.
I’m playing on a 55” sitting 8 feet away.

What I didn’t like was seeing the somewhat old pitch select display back, why not give us a few options to choose from.

And the obvious 3 year holiday of the graphics team. Crossplay on all playforms killed the graphical leap this game could have made in my opinion.

[Houston]

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I would really like to see the flags and wind in any game I play regardless if its online or offline. I have played since 2011 until now and mostly play only online in leagues or online franchise. Early years I never had to worry about buying the game and if u were going to turn wind and flags off. Your the best baseball simulation out here and makes it unrealistic to see no flags or wind in any online games. Please consider giving us the option of having it on or off. Whatever kids, gamers that convince you to turn it off don't know reslism or baseball. The changes the outcome of a game and susposed to. No flag movement is so unrealistic and makes most of us to refuse to play online anymore. Please let us decide on this and using broadcast online games.


The right on dpad use to bring up the Pitching how many pitches were thrown and strike% we use this instead of having to pause game and exceed our timer in our online league games it didnt work anymore in tech test hoping it can still be done by the DPAD not having to pause game everytime to bring this key useful info up. The circles where your pitches missed when hitting R2 when pitching is way to small can u please make them look the size they are when your a batter using fish eye?

[bronxbombers21325]

Re: MLB The Show 23 Technical Test Has Begun - Post Your Impressions Here

Ok I completed my 3 game series where I recorded clutch. In games 2 and 3, I didn't do the full at-bat breakdown for games 2 and 3.

The settings are default Legend - Zone Hitting - Meter Pitching

All 3 games played at Petco Park in April at 7pm.

All 3 games I was the Astros.

Game 1:

Astros won 3-2

Combined RISP stats - 4 for 19 (.210 avg)

K - 8
BB - 0
DP - 0
HR - 0
1B - 4
2B - 0
3B - 0
HBP - 1

Game 2:

Phillies won 7-3

Combined RISP stats - 7 for 23 (.304 avg)

K - 7
BB - 3
DP - 1
HR - 1
1B - 5
2B - 1
3B - 0
HBP - 0

Game 3:

Phillies won 8-0

Combined RISP stats - 3 for 13 (.230 avg)

K - 2
BB - 0
DP - 0
HR - 1
1B - 2
2B - 0
3B - 0
HBP - 0

Total combined stats for all 3 games:

RISP - 14 for 55 (.255 avg)

K - 17
BB - 3
DP - 1
HR - 2
1B - 11
2B - 1
3B - 0
HBP - 1

I understand that this is relatively small sample size, but all in all things look good from my perspective.

Bring on March 24th!

These stats made me feel a little better.

[countryboy]

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As the tech test comes to an end today I thought I would share some final thoughts on my experience with it:

* How clutch is being handled this year was a big concern for me going into the test and even at the start of the test because I had success immediately in those situations. But as more games were played, more at-bats were taken, it seems to work fine and my concern has been minimized.

* I saw some new animations in the games played. I like the new animations on how fielders gather before the throw, saw a new animation from a jump catch on a line drive that was caught via a jump catch by Jeremy Pena. Also saw a new animation for a batter dodging an up and in pitch.

* The new ambience of the crowd is nice and loved the chatter. It will likely get drowned out when commentary is on, but it was nice nevertheless.

* Another concern I had was strikeouts due to the increased swings and misses, but my strikeout totals mirrored what I experienced in '22 which I thought was really on the mark. No concern here

* Saw some new hit varieties, but honestly hitting felt the same to me as an overall experience. Granted the number of games played in the tech test versus that of '22 are vastly different, so maybe over time the changes to hitting will show themselves more.

* Pitching imo is identical to '22. Again number of games played being what they are, I didn't feel any difference in pitching in the tech test vs that of '22. Not that that is a complaint because '22 was really good in that regard.

* The slower jump fielders was the only change I noticed in my time in regards to fielding and that was a bit disappointing but again have to consider the number of games played. It seemed as though I was able to track balls down with the same success rate in the tech test as I did in '22

Overall I'm exicted for '23. I'm curious as to the changes to franchise as well as presentation. If presentation takes the leap forward that I suspect it will, then it will be a no brainer to jump for '22 to '23 for franchise mode as the expected changes to the draft, the new schedule format, and the new playoff format will be enough in franchise to persuade me to start over, especially since this go around, I'll be playing using today's rules (univeral DH and extra inning runner rule)

Bring on the 24th!

[bryanm1982]

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I hope we can still play games in Options Explorer after today.

[snaz16]

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Thanks to all the posters as I've read them all. Thought I would chime in. I am still somewhat concerned with the clutch attribute. I do know one thing,that if things stay the same, I will be doing something that I've rarely done in a game is "NOT PITCH TO YORDAN ALVAREZ". So I say that somewhat in jest,but there will be guys one must be careful when the big boys stride to the plate. So thats not a bad thing at all.
I've the game at All star level the past few years,but as the Stros the first couple of games I scored 15 runs,9 runs ,and 7 runs. I moved up to Hall of Fame (which I've never done) and had some very competitive games,with last nights game the best when the aforementioned Alvarez "walked me off with a 2 run blast" his second of the game,beating me 9-7. Looking forward to whats upcoming.

[ripwalk]

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Whether or not the clutch versus contact thing ends up being a game imbalancing issue is for those with more time/knowledge of the series to determine...

But on the surface, I think the change is ridiculous from a perception/semantics standpoint.

I think baseball people in general argue whether 'clutch' actually exists... but to actually make EVERY single instance where there's RISP a 'clutch' necessitating scenario is just silly.

Runner on 2nd in the first inning, of a regular season 0-0 game. I'm sorry, but there's nothing 'clutch' about this moment.

Your team is down 15-0 in the 7th, but you happen to come up to bat with a runner on second... this is 'clutch'?

It makes no sense and if there's wide gaps of ratings between players contact and clutch ratings it seems it would throw the game out of whack a bit.

I don't understand why contact couldn't exist as it always has, and clutch just be a separate measure that simply either provides a temporary boost or decrease in the player's contact rating when ACTUAL clutch situations come up... like close/late games, runners in scoring position, etc... not meaningless throwaway AB in blowouts or early in games because there's a runner on second.

[Caulfield]

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I hope we can still play games in Options Explorer after today.

yep, me too also as well.
as much gameplay info as Sony is able to automatically gather online, I imagine there is still helpful info the Studio can glean by leaving the test tech up until mid-March. anyways, it seems like the last couple years they have left it up for a few weeks after the server stress load testing

[JoshC1977]

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Whether or not the clutch versus contact thing ends up being a game imbalancing issue is for those with more time/knowledge of the series to determine...

But on the surface, I think the change is ridiculous from a perception/semantics standpoint.

I think baseball people in general argue whether 'clutch' actually exists... but to actually make EVERY single instance where there's RISP a 'clutch' necessitating scenario is just silly.

Runner on 2nd in the first inning, of a regular season 0-0 game. I'm sorry, but there's nothing 'clutch' about this moment.

Your team is down 15-0 in the 7th, but you happen to come up to bat with a runner on second... this is 'clutch'?

It makes no sense and if there's wide gaps of ratings between players contact and clutch ratings it seems it would throw the game out of whack a bit.

I don't understand why contact couldn't exist as it always has, and clutch just be a separate measure that simply either provides a temporary boost or decrease in the player's contact rating when ACTUAL clutch situations come up... like close/late games, runners in scoring position, etc... not meaningless throwaway AB in blowouts or early in games because there's a runner on second.

I 100% agree with this.

Also, determination of the rating for "clutch" is going to be much more limited in terms of sample size; so it's more subjective. Now, that has always been the case - but, with it now playing a more critical role as a direct replacement for H/9 and contact, this becomes a much more significant question mark in terms of authenticity.

AI "understanding" of the new system and appropriate application of it in those critical situations is another area that the gameplay team has not effectively addressed.

[kt-od]

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It feels very similar to '22. Which is not a bad thing. '22 has been my favorite version, and I've played more of it than any other past versions. I do prefer the bat sounds in '22 more. The difference to me is like listening to baseball on the radio vs watching it live. '22 sounds like a radio hit, and '23 sounds more like watching a game in person at the stadium.

I'm still very disappointed that the afternoon to evening shadows at Minute Maid, with a closed roof, are still not correct. While the other retractable roof stadiums seem to be correct. Here is an example of what I'm talking about. I found this photo posted from a live game , and I'll include a copy of what's in the game when I get home later. The shadows are correct with the roof open, however. Astros1.JPG

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[Ragnar84]

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Maybe this has been asked but have check swing animation been upgraded to look more realistic instead of the glitchy stutter.


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[countryboy]

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Maybe this has been asked but have check swing animation been upgraded to look more realistic instead of the glitchy stutter.


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in my time with the tech test, I didn't notice any changes to the check swing animation

[blackhawksfan4ever19]

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For those who have tried the beta version of Show 23, are custom uniforms carried over from 22?