Has something changed in hitting?

[jskramer83]

Re: Has something changed in hitting?

There is definitely and issue with hitting. But only with timing and directional.

With directional and timing, making contact with an off speed pitch is a roll of the dice.

Zone hitting even without moving the pci contact chance is much much greater.

I just spent an hour in practice checking this out, if you want to see for yourself just go to practice and set change up and slider to the outer half of the strike zone and try all three.

It explains why half the people say they are experiencing issues the other half are saying they aren’t.

This was definitely not the case pre patch

[jcar0725]

Re: Has something changed in hitting?

There is definitely and issue with hitting. But only with timing and directional.

With directional and timing, making contact with an off speed pitch is a roll of the dice.

Zone hitting even without moving the pci contact chance is much much greater.

I just spent an hour in practice checking this out, if you want to see for yourself just go to practice and set change up and slider to the outer half of the strike zone and try all three.

It explains why half the people say they are experiencing issues the other half are saying they aren’t.

This was definitely not the case pre patch

I'm using directional hitting and definitely not having any issues whatsoever with hitting, pre or post patch.

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[moemoe24]

Re: Has something changed in hitting?

Hey everyone,

Been playing since launch and was really enjoying it...until this weekend.

I can't hit anymore - Over 5 games in my franchise I only scored 4 runs made up of 3 solo HR and a sac fly. I'm not striking out a lot and am making same good contact with the ball but everything is an at'em ball.

Anyone else experience a noticeable difference in hitting recently?

Its definitely changed. For years i played All Star batting and always turned contact, timing and solid hit to 0 or 1. This year i almost have those three maxed out. Just fly ball after fly ball. Between this and the cpu strikeout numbers, im losing a little bit of interest

[moemoe24]

Re: Has something changed in hitting?

There is definitely and issue with hitting. But only with timing and directional.

With directional and timing, making contact with an off speed pitch is a roll of the dice.

Zone hitting even without moving the pci contact chance is much much greater.

I just spent an hour in practice checking this out, if you want to see for yourself just go to practice and set change up and slider to the outer half of the strike zone and try all three.

It explains why half the people say they are experiencing issues the other half are saying they aren’t.

This was definitely not the case pre patch

Ive always used zone hitting. Definitely something different this year.

[bkrich83]

Re: Has something changed in hitting?

Ive always used zone hitting. Definitely something different this year.

I’m playing zone HOF with pitch speed sliders up a couple of notches. I don’t see much difference. Maybe slightly fewer 105+ mph exit velocity hits, but that was for the better imo. Not seeing anything drastic. Certainly not the perfect/perfect for a dribbler nonsense that was claimed earlier.

[mateoman_]

Re: Has something changed in hitting?

Yeah man idk what it is but in my rtts I’m on standard half of fame difficulty hitting and pre-patch I was hitting .280 with a decent amount of home runs and post-patch I’m down to .200 on the same difficulty. No idea what’s going on, I don’t think I’m doing anything too differently to account for the huge post-patch drop in performance, maybe some of it though. Very weird.

[jskramer83]

Re: Has something changed in hitting?

After a little more testing on curveballs and sinkers low down the middle of the strike zone. I can confidently say a lot depends on the skill level.

7/8 good timed swings made contact on all star

2/8 good timed swings on hof and legend even made contact.

This is was using timing hitting. What’s crazy is late swings at those levels had a higher percentage of contact then good.

Yes harder difficulties should be more difficult, but a good timed swing on the same pitch should reap the same result. It should be harder to time.

[Skippy85410]

Re: Has something changed in hitting?

I think I've settled on Human Contact slider at 7 with Human Power and Solid Hits both at 6 and running S&B sliders for everything else. Keep Timing at default on any difficulty. This seems to give me more realistic and fair results.

[NYJin2011tm]

Re: Has something changed in hitting?

I’m playing zone HOF with pitch speed sliders up a couple of notches. I don’t see much difference. Maybe slightly fewer 105+ mph exit velocity hits, but that was for the better imo. Not seeing anything drastic. Certainly not the perfect/perfect for a dribbler nonsense that was claimed earlier.

I feel this too. When I get perfect or good timing I'm mostly getting hits, gappers, HRs. If it is an out it's at least a hard hit ball with good/perfect. I haven't noticed much difference. I use timing hitting if that matters.

[snaz16]

Re: Has something changed in hitting?

After a little more testing on curveballs and sinkers low down the middle of the strike zone. I can confidently say a lot depends on the skill level.

7/8 good timed swings made contact on all star

2/8 good timed swings on hof and legend even made contact.

This is was using timing hitting. What’s crazy is late swings at those levels had a higher percentage of contact then good.

Yes harder difficulties should be more difficult, but a good timed swing on the same pitch should reap the same result. It should be harder to time.

You might be on to something.I went into practice with Acuna and Olson on HOF default w/directional /timing hitting. Set the pitches to all low in the zone,12-6 curves,and could barely square any of them up.I had several good timed hits there were weak contact,if any for the most part.
Moved the zone up to middle and then upper and good contact was immediate. I realize low pitches are tougher to get to,but not to the extent I was seeing post patch.
I just started a franchise and I wonder if it is just tougher to hit in that as opposed to exhibition. Scored 3 wins by a score of 1-0 5-3 in 11innings,and 1-0 with the Braves vs. Washington.
Worried about CPU offense too. I was reluctant to move sliders since the game played so well from the beta on through the 40 or so games on exhibition I played. I guess its time to start playing with sliders.

[bkrich83]

Re: Has something changed in hitting?

You might be on to something.I went into practice with Acuna and Olson on HOF default w/directional /timing hitting. Set the pitches to all low in the zone,12-6 curves,and could barely square any of them up.I had several good timed hits there were weak contact,if any for the most part.
Moved the zone up to middle and then upper and good contact was immediate. I realize low pitches are tougher to get to,but not to the extent I was seeing post patch.
I just started a franchise and I wonder if it is just tougher to hit in that as opposed to exhibition. Scored 3 wins by a score of 1-0 5-3 in 11innings,and 1-0 with the Braves vs. Washington.
Worried about CPU offense too. I was reluctant to move sliders since the game played so well from the beta on through the 40 or so games on exhibition I played. I guess its time to start playing with sliders.

If you're playing Timing Hitting and Classic Pitching check out RMIOK's slider thread.

[jskramer83]

Re: Has something changed in hitting?

You might be on to something.I went into practice with Acuna and Olson on HOF default w/directional /timing hitting. Set the pitches to all low in the zone,12-6 curves,and could barely square any of them up.I had several good timed hits there were weak contact,if any for the most part.
Moved the zone up to middle and then upper and good contact was immediate. I realize low pitches are tougher to get to,but not to the extent I was seeing post patch.
I just started a franchise and I wonder if it is just tougher to hit in that as opposed to exhibition. Scored 3 wins by a score of 1-0 5-3 in 11innings,and 1-0 with the Braves vs. Washington.
Worried about CPU offense too. I was reluctant to move sliders since the game played so well from the beta on through the 40 or so games on exhibition I played. I guess its time to start playing with sliders.

Sorry for the stupid question, but what do you mean move the zone?

Would be curious to try this.

I have a feeling something messed with the strike zone as prior to the patch 50% of these pitches were called balls if not more. Now they are all strikes so you are forced to swing at pitches you can’t possibly hit.

This also explains why the cpu strikes out looking so often.

These were meant to initially be balls. So cpu hitters could still be programmed to recognize these as balls

[snaz16]

Re: Has something changed in hitting?

Sorry for the stupid question, but what do you mean move the zone?

Would be curious to try this.

I have a feeling something messed with the strike zone as prior to the patch 50% of these pitches were called balls if not more. Now they are all strikes so you are forced to swing at pitches you can’t possibly hit.

This also explains why the cpu strikes out looking so often.

These were meant to initially be balls. So cpu hitters could still be programmed to recognize these as balls

If you go into practice,you can select your team,pitcher,specific type of pitch and any of the 9 zones,or all of them,and even outside the strike zone if you prefer. Sorry if I was confusing that with the zone hitting.
I am using timing/directional and wondering if those using zone hitting are not having the the same issues or not as much as the timing guys.
I'll play with sliders some at HOF and adjust accordingly. I will find the right gears.
Thanks Bk I'll certainly look into those settings.

[jskramer83]

Re: Has something changed in hitting?

If you go into practice,you can select your team,pitcher,specific type of pitch and any of the 9 zones,or all of them,and even outside the strike zone if you prefer. Sorry if I was confusing that with the zone hitting.
I am using timing/directional and wondering if those using zone hitting are not having the the same issues or not as much as the timing guys.
I'll play with sliders some at HOF and adjust accordingly. I will find the right gears.
Thanks Bk I'll certainly look into those settings.

From what I have been reading they apparently are. Do you use buttons or analog to swing?

If you use buttons switch to analog flick, run the same drill and see the results.

[bkrich83]

Re: Has something changed in hitting?

If you go into practice,you can select your team,pitcher,specific type of pitch and any of the 9 zones,or all of them,and even outside the strike zone if you prefer. Sorry if I was confusing that with the zone hitting.
I am using timing/directional and wondering if those using zone hitting are not having the the same issues or not as much as the timing guys.
I'll play with sliders some at HOF and adjust accordingly. I will find the right gears.
Thanks Bk I'll certainly look into those settings.

I’m using zone and not having those issues. I absolutely murder pitches down in the zone. Pitches up, I do not. I think with zone your approach will have a big affect on this.