Players Can Create and Play as a Female Ballplayer in MLB The Show 24 Road to the Show

[Doctorduck10]

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Everyone complaining about wasted resources but go look at franchise from MLB 17. Most of it is the same as now outside of some ways to not play the game faster and the draft scouting. I've stuck around year to year because of the gameplay but at this point, play MLB 23 or 22 and get 99% of the same experience.

All of this is to try and get more DD players. But them adding women isn't why they didn't work on franchise. They've barely worked on it for years at this point

[Dolenz]

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All of this is to try and get more DD players.

Of course they want more DD players. I don't think anyone would deny that but what does adding females have anything to do with that? They added females to RTTS and the RTTS Ballplayer has now been decoupled from DD so it should have no impact on DD.

[LegendKillerOne]

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Everyone complaining about wasted resources but go look at franchise from MLB 17. Most of it is the same as now outside of some ways to not play the game faster and the draft scouting. I've stuck around year to year because of the gameplay but at this point, play MLB 23 or 22 and get 99% of the same experience.

All of this is to try and get more DD players. But them adding women isn't why they didn't work on franchise. They've barely worked on it for years at this point

You are 100% right. I do not believe that resources are being taken from Franchise. I think either two things are happening. First being they put very little resources as it is into franchise, Or Second, they are working on a HUGE franchise revamp that will be out in the next 2 or 3 years and we will all look back feeling like dopes because they had people working on franchise for a long time behind the scenes

[FBeaule04]

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You are 100% right. I do not believe that resources are being taken from Franchise. I think either two things are happening. First being they put very little resources as it is into franchise, Or Second, they are working on a HUGE franchise revamp that will be out in the next 2 or 3 years and we will all look back feeling like dopes because they had people working on franchise for a long time behind the scenes

Nice answer. I just can't stop smiling about comments on how they don't do this, don't do that, should do this, should do that. 24 is already in the books (minor tweaking and adjustments) and wouldn't be surprised if 25 is pretty much setup to a certain degree.

I've been in a management role since 3 years now, and lately in an senior advisor role. Yes, we take care about what people "outside" are saying, but our senior managers have their views, their targets, their plans.

To be honest, now approaching 50, I understand things I wasn't 25 years ago. What SDS is doing with The Show makes sense from my point of view.

SDS isn't different. The MLBTS teams are working toward the agenda, and bottom line is that they have to makes the game sell all year long before next installment.

They're not that bad at doing so...;-)

[DonkeyJote]

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Of course they want more DD players. I don't think anyone would deny that but what does adding females have anything to do with that? They added females to RTTS and the RTTS Ballplayer has now been decoupled from DD so it should have no impact on DD.

Toni Stone at the very least will very likely have a card in DD.

Wouldn't be at all surprised for them to do a League of their Own storylines mode at some point too. Kinda surprised MLB hasn't already done a League of their Own game in the vein of Field of Dreams.

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[ZachenFoot]

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I feel like if they expand this into a storylines mode it won't be so much A League Of Their Own as much as it would be an effort to re-tell and educate fans on the real league the movie / show are based on.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-American_Girls_Professional_Baseball_League

I mentioned the Fort Wayne Daisies earlier in the thread, they were one of the longer running teams in the league. The last couple of years the TinCaps have gone to great effort to finally honor this important history to the city and baseball as a whole, and many of the women who played on that team are still with us and have been at the games, etc. It's a cool thing.

These games are routinely sell outs and a big hit for the team, one of the anecdotal reasons I think this has broader appeal than a lot of you think.

I suspect that's where this whole thing is going, which is pretty rad.

[WacoKid]

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I think SDS missed the boat on how to implement this and broaden the game at the same time. I know someone mentioned the WW2 era womens leagues but that should have been there avenue they introduced it and I will tell you why.

It could have created the framework for an Eras type experience where rosters from different decades are introduced for play of historical seasons. It would have used dev time effectively and by doing this and offering players something different to look forward to.


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[ZachenFoot]

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Anecdotes are fine and they do have value, but that also falls in line with what Chase mentioned earlier of things not to do because of the bias that it carries. So if we can't talk about market research (which can and should be challenged), well let's just say that 1 is far more scientific than the other.

Eh I'll share my anecdotes, I'm not worried about it. Because as much as many of you want it to be, this is not a decision by SDS that needs to be justified by cold, hard science or data.

[ZachenFoot]

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My last point is kind of the thing we're dancing around here: you guys love to talk about sales and numbers, but it doesn't really matter at all in this conversation.

This move was about opening the gates of a very niche gaming community and saying, "hey, come on in, you're welcome in this space." Who knows how this is ultimately going to sell this year, first three years, etc. If in ten years there's a surge in women playing sports games like The Show, people will point to this move (and any subsequent expansions) as a critical point. That's why this is a no brainer for SDS. They know most of you are coming back. This is about welcoming and embracing a more inclusive future in this genre.

I'll stand by my anecdotes that I've.seen a city take a strong and dedicated interest in its local women's baseball history. That I know my sister that I played games with would have played The Show with me years ago if this was available. That my buddy's daughter is excited she can create herself in the game finally.

It's not about some survey from 2017 and the biases you use it to confirm. It's about being better for the future. It's a long term approach that makes business sense and brings more people into the fold. Which is why so many of the arguments about sales, resource management, etc. come off so weak and disingenuous. None of that matters in this instance.

[Ghost Of The Year]

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My last point is kind of the thing we're dancing around here: you guys love to talk about sales and numbers, but it doesn't really matter at all in this conversation.

It's not about some survey from 2017 and the biases you use it to confirm. It's about being better for the future. It's a long term approach that makes business sense and brings more people into the fold. Which is why so many of the arguments about sales, resource management, etc. come off so weak and disingenuous. None of that matters in this instance.

It's always about the money, especially when its not about the money.

Even this guy knew it:

It's a long term approach that makes business sense

[DonkeyJote]

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It's always about the money, especially when its not about the money.



Even this guy knew it:

It's about the money, but not necessarily how much money the game makes. MLB publishes the game on Xbox and Switch, and to MLB the game is a tool for marketing baseball. MLB is less concerned with how much money The Show makes and more concerned with how it can drive more fans to baseball. That's why they put their foot down on making the game multiplatform, and that's why it's on Game Pass every year.

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[Ghost Of The Year]

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It's about the money, but not necessarily how much money the game makes. MLB publishes the game on Xbox and Switch, and to MLB the game is a tool for marketing baseball. MLB is less concerned with how much money The Show makes and more concerned with how it can drive more fans to baseball. That's why they put their foot down on making the game multiplatform, and that's why it's on Game Pass every year.

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And why do you suppose they may desire more fans? Why any sport desires more eyeballs. I'm not knocking it, I fully agree with the direction. Its a better vision than Bud Selig ever had, I know that much.

[Duece]

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I personally would have loved an women's NCAA softball video game

I'd rather try to create a dynasty to compete with the Oklahoma Sooners than this.

[Ghost Of The Year]

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So another thing where it looks like Sony implemented this wrong in RTTS is, I'm pretty sure the first woman in minor-league baseball affiliated with major-league baseball, is she will be undrafted not drafted.

[mattynokes]

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I don't understand all of the negativity towards this. Is it any more different than my Guardians winning back-to-back-to-back World Series? It's a ficitional, fantasy world. Sure, there may never be women in the MLB, but what harm does it do?

My daughter, who is five, has started enjoying watching me play my games while avoiding going to bed. Never did I think that it would be so hard to make Arthur be 'good' in RDR2. That's another story for a different day. When she watches me play The Show, she always asks if I'm the Rubberducks. We've went to a few Akron games, which she's enjoyed. I wish that I could remember who made the Canal Park that I'm using to give them the proper credit, because when my five year-old can recognize aspects of a Stadium Creditor field, wow!

Anyways, my wife has expressed interest in the game if women are in it, "as long as it's not too time consuming for what I do (in Franchise mode)" (which means she wants me to set her up with a hitting only RTTS). I see this as an opportunity that only helps grow my daughter's interest in baseball. Inevitably there will be a time when my daughter sees my wife playing the game and thinks, "If my mom likes baseball, then I should too", and she'll bug me to go to the backyard to, "do some baseball stuff."

My daughter already has a pink bat and a pink (and blue) glove. Currently, she half-heartedly has shown interest in baseball. This could be another push to help get her fully invested and eventually become interested in girls' fastpitch softball. That's where I see women in The Show help grow interest in the game.