Players Can Create and Play as a Female Ballplayer in MLB The Show 24 Road to the Show

[countryboy]

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See but here is the problem with that point. You say video games are suppose to be fantasy. Then why are we so upset if the grass is not right, or they do not have full minor league systems, or for many years correct rosters? correct faces? its fantasy right so why would those things matter? They matter because we want it to be as close to the real thing as possible.

If they added into MLB the show next year says a women's softball league mode, or even better yet made a women's college softball game. I bet it would sell off the charts.

Because we want the game to simulate the real sport as best as possible, and want it to look as good when doing so.

You can want the game to simulate the sport as close to the real thing as possible, but at the end of the day it’s still a fantasy universe where we each create our own version of “realism”.


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[ChaseB]

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I know this isn't a popular opinion around here but I still think it's the second best franchise mode in sports games behind 2K. Sure it has flaws I'd love to see fixed but again, SDS has an enormous task in front of them to move product and appeal to as many players as possible, and with that understanding I've found the mode is very enjoyable.

And it's wild that we're railing franchise for not changing enough when they've added custom teams and stadiums, which may not be directly tied to franchise but certainly allow for greater depth. Players have an enormous amount more flexibility than they used to. I actually don't think they get enough credit for this.

It's kind of the second best franchise mode almost by default though haha. And it's pretty damn large gap between first and second either way. (I also get more enjoyment out of online franchise mode in Madden than anything from Show, but it's a slightly different argument then at that point.)

I think the other problem with that point is that the integration between stuff like custom stadiums and custom teams isn't exactly always the cleanest when bringing it to franchise mode so it feels like half a win sometimes. But, yes, even with Y2Y saves being lost, flexibility is def more there (and I do think the addition of how to get into franchise games shown yesterday is a very smart and good thing).

[ZachenFoot]

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Because we want the game to simulate the real sport as best as possible, and want it to look as good when doing so.

You can want the game to simulate the sport as close to the real thing as possible, but at the end of the day it’s still a fantasy universe where we each create our own version of “realism”.


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I'm a Cubs fan. I'm one of the guys who thinks the Cubs mishandled the careers of the core who won them the World Series and set both those players and the team back.

It makes me sad watching Javy strikeout reels, or seeing Kris Bryant play like he was exposed to kryptonite. In The Show, they can be as good as I want them to be. That's the fun of it all in a nutshell.

[Armor and Sword]

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"Vile"



Just teasing, my friend.

Oooops.....thank you. I need to proofread more often lol.


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[JoshC1977]

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My problem with the realism talk is that the people who strive for it like to project that onto the entire playing audience. It's not something we all universally want.

Yup, the ones that try to project that idea are 100% guilty of gatekeeping. People get attacked and ridiculed if one does anything that defies their idea of what "realism" is; even in subtle ways like "you should be playing on a higher difficulty" or "you need to adjust this slider" or "that trade isn't realistic". They use it to attack developers for doing things they feel are "not realistic" or people that enjoy playing a game (or other modes within a game that they feel are "not realistic"). It's a revolting attitude.

These people will try to argue that "sports games are simulations" and this is where they are objectively wrong. Sports games are role-playing games, whether you roleplay as a player, a coach, a GM, etc. They're all fantasy modes where you're thrown into a universe that is based upon the sport in question. It's not a simulation of the sport - it's a representation of the sport; and I think a lot of people don't appreciate this nuance.

The wonderful thing about this series as a whole is that the game does a great job of representing the game on the field as it plays out in real life. That sets a fantastic backdrop for a person to develop their fantasy; whether it is to be a major league player or a GM of a team.

But the great thing about this game is that it also offers totally outlandish options that could NEVER happen; like the ability to control all 30 teams in the league in franchise or to put together teams of players from the past, present and future in DD.

Let's celebrate people having fun; no matter how they choose to have it. Baseball is such a fun game and everyone should have a way of playing it in MLBTS that is fun for them without others trying to push their own agendas onto them.

[ZachenFoot]

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Yup, the ones that try to project that idea are 100% guilty of gatekeeping. People get attacked and ridiculed if one does anything that defies their idea of what "realism" is; even in subtle ways like "you should be playing on a higher difficulty" or "you need to adjust this slider" or "that trade isn't realistic". They use it to attack developers for doing things they feel are "not realistic" or people that enjoy playing a game (or other modes within a game that they feel are "not realistic"). It's a revolting attitude.

These people will try to argue that "sports games are simulations" and this is where they are objectively wrong. Sports games are role-playing games, whether you roleplay as a player, a coach, a GM, etc. They're all fantasy modes where you're thrown into a universe that is based upon the sport in question. It's not a simulation of the sport - it's a representation of the sport; and I think a lot of people don't appreciate this nuance.

The wonderful thing about this series as a whole is that the game does a great job of representing the game on the field as it plays out in real life. That sets a fantastic backdrop for a person to develop their fantasy; whether it is to be a major league player or a GM of a team.

But the great thing about this game is that it also offers totally outlandish options that could NEVER happen; like the ability to control all 30 teams in the league in franchise or to put together teams of players from the past, present and future in DD.

Let's celebrate people having fun; no matter how they choose to have it. Baseball is such a fun game and everyone should have a way of playing it in MLBTS that is fun for them without others trying to push their own agendas onto them.

I already gave you a thumbs up but this is a beautiful post. Hard to argue with any of that.

[Bonny]

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Cries of "woke!" is the most fragile thing ever. Put on your big boy britches and accept that other folks can have equal standing within a freaking video game. Pathetic.

[LegendKillerOne]

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Cries of "woke!" is the most fragile thing ever. Put on your big boy britches and accept that other folks can have equal standing within a freaking video game. Pathetic.

While I agree with you about the Woke thing and not really sure what being woke or not woke has to do with any of what they added to the game.

Also, people need to realize that just because some people do not see adding women players to the game as needed does not in any way mean that person is sexist or against women.

[ZachenFoot]

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Also, people need to realize that just because some people do not see adding women players to the game as needed does not in any way mean that person is sexist or against women.

Eh there's a veiled misogyny baked into that opinion. Sorry it just is what it is.

The opinion suggests women don't belong in the game as a playable character. There's an inherent problem with that take that runs counter to you saying "it's not about sexism."

[jcar0725]

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Yup, the ones that try to project that idea are 100% guilty of gatekeeping. People get attacked and ridiculed if one does anything that defies their idea of what "realism" is; even in subtle ways like "you should be playing on a higher difficulty" or "you need to adjust this slider" or "that trade isn't realistic". They use it to attack developers for doing things they feel are "not realistic" or people that enjoy playing a game (or other modes within a game that they feel are "not realistic"). It's a revolting attitude.

These people will try to argue that "sports games are simulations" and this is where they are objectively wrong. Sports games are role-playing games, whether you roleplay as a player, a coach, a GM, etc. They're all fantasy modes where you're thrown into a universe that is based upon the sport in question. It's not a simulation of the sport - it's a representation of the sport; and I think a lot of people don't appreciate this nuance.

The wonderful thing about this series as a whole is that the game does a great job of representing the game on the field as it plays out in real life. That sets a fantastic backdrop for a person to develop their fantasy; whether it is to be a major league player or a GM of a team.

But the great thing about this game is that it also offers totally outlandish options that could NEVER happen; like the ability to control all 30 teams in the league in franchise or to put together teams of players from the past, present and future in DD.

Let's celebrate people having fun; no matter how they choose to have it. Baseball is such a fun game and everyone should have a way of playing it in MLBTS that is fun for them without others trying to push their own agendas onto them.

Josh doesn't post often, but when he does its always quality.

[LegendKillerOne]

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Eh there's a veiled misogyny baked into that opinion. Sorry it just is what it is.

Whatever you say man. You like to poke people it's what you do, but I will save you lots of time and ignore you on the boards, so I do not have to see what you have to say. Enjoy

One of the best features on the boards. Sorry do not have time to talk to those who rather than let people share opinions want to start arguments and fights.

[ZachenFoot]

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Whatever you say man. You like to poke people it's what you do, but I will save you lots of time and ignore you on the boards, so I do not have to see what you have to say. Enjoy

Hey, it's part of the discussion man. If you're going to come in here and say "women don't belong, it's just not realistic," that's not just going to go unchallenged.

You're speaking from a bias that would explicitly exclude the opposite gender from the thing you like. There's no explanation or justification that changes what it is. You also keep coming back to double down on it for some reason.

[baconbits11]

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You may need to look up the word literally because I am pretty sure that the number of people who want this is greater than zero.

It's okay to say "I don't want this". Nobody elected you to speak for all MLB The Show players.

I think more would like rainouts or online franchise or season mode back than this. Still it's a nice addition, although there are better ways to include women like a League Of Their Own mode.

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[LegendKillerOne]

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I think more would like rainouts or online franchise or season mode back than this. Still it's a nice addition, although there are better ways to include women like a League Of Their Own mode.

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Did they ever say why they took out online franchise mode?

[Bonny]

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Did they ever say why they took out online franchise mode?

IIRC they claimed it was because of server issues.