Players Can Create and Play as a Female Ballplayer in MLB The Show 24 Road to the Show

[ChaseB]

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The narrative in RTTS hasn't been good in years anyway. It's not an interesting part of the mode (even though they try, it just hasn't hit for me overall in that regard), the fantasy itself and playing the games has been the only true selling point. It's why you could be Ohtani, and before that in general just rip to the majors like we're all Bryce Harpers, etc. etc. (and by the way, people were also upset about the two-way player thing, and that's even happened, but they were freaked you'd have to choose it or something).

And then in the majors, the choices you make and the way they talk about you just hasn't been realistic or that interesting. It's sort of just in the way before you take back over with your virtual avatar -- and one of the best selling points for the mode has been how quickly you can just get into the next game (versus something like 2K's career mode).

I'm not sure why we keep pretending the sanctity of baseball is on the line here or realism matters in a mode that has fundamentally been fan fiction anyway. The better way to frame this if you want to be negative is that now men and women can poke fun at how mediocre (and mostly uninteresting/boring) the interactive story elements of this mode are and have been with its subpar choice decisions and all that.

[LegendKillerOne]

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I feel they really missed the mark on this feature. And the clapping when they introduced it was so cringe. Just felt like they wanted to sound super excited to sell it.

First off let's be realistic here. No female is every playing pro ball. Just not going to happen. So right there that turns in into a fantasy. Sure, it happened back long time ago in the Negro Leagues. Different time, different place.

Many ways they could have gone with female characters that could have not only opened up a new market but made sense. Someone mentioned a storyline along the lines of league of their own. GREAT IDEA, also how about if they just added a women's softball league in the game which is actually realistic. Female umpires would have been great, Hell even a female coach (Oh wait we still cannot edit coaches)

these days games staffs are getting smaller and smaller, people are getting laid off left and right. They only have so many hours and so many resources. to waste time on this feature (And do not act like it was an easy add the guy himself said on the stream it was 2 years in the making) and then ignore things like franchise mode is the issue.

[ZachenFoot]

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First off let's be realistic here. No female is every playing pro ball. Just not going to happen. So right there that turns in into a fantasy. Sure, it happened back long time ago in the Negro Leagues. Different time, different place.

Thing is I don't believe most gamers are beholden to 100% realism in their sports games. It's why Diamond Dynasty gets way more attention than Franchise, because more people play it because it's more loose and arcadey. Heck I'm a franchise player and don't want it to mirror real life.

If someone's daughter wants to play The Show, they don't want to be Joe Random. They want to be themselves. Realism doesn't matter here, and it shouldn't. RTTS is inherently fantasy mode for every shlubby weirdo that plays it (myself included). And I'm telling you, women like baseball and want to be represented in the game they love. To scoff at this or say it's not important because you want a better franchise mode is a you problem, not a problem with the development. We all have modes we like and modes we skip. This one isn't for you. Great! The whole game doesn't need to be just for you. Not being a jerk, let's just be honest about it.

[countryboy]

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I still don’t understand the argument “it’s not realistic” in a video game.

The game is a simulation of the sport. How can one argue the sake of realism in a game where I can make myself who’s 5’9 and 45 years old, 6’4 225lbs and 18 years old and play in the major leagues???

Or I can put Babe Ruth on the current day Yankees to play alongside the likes of Aaron Judge and Juan Soto?

I can make roster changes to the A’s and give them a $200M payroll before starting a franchise and carry that roster into it to use.

Video games are fantasy, make believe and serve the purpose of entertainment. It’s why I can be a professional athlete, a soldier in a world war, an explorer who flies spaceships from planet to planet, or my personal favorite, a guy from the sticks turned into a gangster on the streets committing crimes and running from the law all while blasting foes and banging hoes.


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[ZachenFoot]

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I still don’t understand the argument “it’s not realistic” in a video game.

The game is a simulation of the sport. How can one argue the sake of realism in a game where I can make myself who’s 5’9 and 45 years old, 6’4 225lbs and 18 years old and play in the major leagues???

Or I can put Babe Ruth on the current day Yankees to play alongside the likes of Aaron Judge and Juan Soto?

I can make roster changes to the A’s and give them a $200M payroll before starting a franchise and carry that roster into it to use.

Video games are fantasy, make believe and serve the purpose of entertainment. It’s why I can be a professional athlete, a soldier in a world war, an explorer who flies spaceships from planet to planet, or my personal favorite, a guy from the sticks turned into a gangster on the streets committing crimes and running from the law all while blasting foes and banging hoes.


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I'm an out of shape 32 year old who works a desk job and every year my RTTS guy looks and plays like Barry Zito. It's a complete and total fantasy, that's why it's great.

My problem with the realism talk is that the people who strive for it like to project that onto the entire playing audience. It's not something we all universally want. For a lot of us video games are an escape and being able to play pretend in a game is valuable. Last year in my 30 team franchise the Marlins were making a run and I traded Ohtani to them. That would NEVER happen lol. But I did it because it's imaginary and fun.

But I go back to the point I make about daughters: if one girl sees this mode, buys the game and plays it, this is a success for SDS and for baseball as a whole. And it's going to be more than one. SDS knows the few people who devote their energy to Franchise are going to be back next year no matter how much they complain. If a girl can play the mode and feel empowered that maybe one day they could break the barrier... idk why that's something people want to frown on. It's inclusivity at the expense of nothing.

To the earlier point about making women umpires or coaches... that's not what this is about. Nobody new is going to play the game because people who play sports games don't aspire to that. They want to be the player. They want to be on the field. This gives them that chance.

[LegendKillerOne]

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I still don’t understand the argument “it’s not realistic” in a video game.

The game is a simulation of the sport. How can one argue the sake of realism in a game where I can make myself who’s 5’9 and 45 years old, 6’4 225lbs and 18 years old and play in the major leagues???

Or I can put Babe Ruth on the current day Yankees to play alongside the likes of Aaron Judge and Juan Soto?

I can make roster changes to the A’s and give them a $200M payroll before starting a franchise and carry that roster into it to use.

Video games are fantasy, make believe and serve the purpose of entertainment. It’s why I can be a professional athlete, a soldier in a world war, an explorer who flies spaceships from planet to planet, or my personal favorite, a guy from the sticks turned into a gangster on the streets committing crimes and running from the law all while blasting foes and banging hoes.


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See but here is the problem with that point. You say video games are suppose to be fantasy. Then why are we so upset if the grass is not right, or they do not have full minor league systems, or for many years correct rosters? correct faces? its fantasy right so why would those things matter? They matter because we want it to be as close to the real thing as possible.

If they added into MLB the show next year says a women's softball league mode, or even better yet made a women's college softball game. I bet it would sell off the charts.

[LegendKillerOne]

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Thing is I don't believe most gamers are beholden to 100% realism in their sports games. It's why Diamond Dynasty gets way more attention than Franchise, because more people play it because it's more loose and arcadey. Heck I'm a franchise player and don't want it to mirror real life.

If someone's daughter wants to play The Show, they don't want to be Joe Random. They want to be themselves. Realism doesn't matter here, and it shouldn't. RTTS is inherently fantasy mode for every shlubby weirdo that plays it (myself included). And I'm telling you, women like baseball and want to be represented in the game they love. To scoff at this or say it's not important because you want a better franchise mode is a you problem, not a problem with the development. We all have modes we like and modes we skip. This one isn't for you. Great! The whole game doesn't need to be just for you. Not being a jerk, let's just be honest about it.

A you problem yes correct, Am I the only person that feels it was time wasted? No, this thread clearly shows it's pretty split.

Just my opinion and glad to be able to express it. Like I said earlier, Super pumped to create Roasanne Barr, Just because I am not a fan of it does not mean I am not buying and will not play it

[ZachenFoot]

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See but here is the problem with that point. You say video games are suppose to be fantasy. Then why are we so upset if the grass is not right, or they do not have full minor league systems, or for many years correct rosters? correct faces? its fantasy right so why would those things matter? They matter because we want it to be as close to the real thing as possible.

Again, *you're* upset with those things. The fact that only half of the posters here -- the ultimate place for striving for realism online -- seem upset about those things tells me they're not universal issues for the playing audience.

I don't care about any of those things you mentioned. I want a baseball game that looks and plays well that I enjoy, and these do the job fine. I certainly don't think I'm alone in that. I'm betting a lot of DD players don't care either.

Also... you and others continue to say "well they should have made a full softball league"... there's no way people would have been happier with that lol. You guys would find another way to say they're wasting resources on this. I don't believe for a second making a whole new mode would somehow make this more acceptable to the naysayers. The issue seems to be putting women in the game at all.

[Dolenz]

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First off let's be realistic here. No female is every playing pro ball. Just not going to happen.

First off let's be realistic here. You are never going to be the GM/Manager of an MLB team. Just not going to happen.

It's a video game so of course it is fantasy.

Not only that, with RTTS and DD being decoupled the women are only in the RTTS mode, where the game has always been about living a fantasy. You have people who create the most ridiculously proportioned players and make them superstars. You have people who play on easy difficulties and hit 200 HRs in a season. The mode is already unrealistic so why is it just now that some people are complaining?

This game pretty much does not deny males from living out any unrealistic baseball fantasy that they want, whether that is becoming GM in Franchise, creating a Super team in DD, or creating yourself in RTTS. Why shouldn't females get the same option to live out their baseball fantasy?

And if you are honest with yourself, you will understand that Franchise has been pretty much ignored for many, many years now, long before they were working to put women into the game. Everybody acting like Franchise would have gotten some great update or been allocated more resources had it not been for this feature is just fooling themselves.

[ZachenFoot]

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And if you are honest with yourself, you will understand that Franchise has been pretty much ignored for many, many years now, long before they were working to put women into the game. Everybody acting like Franchise would have gotten some great update or been allocated more resources had it not been for this feature is just fooling themselves.

I know this isn't a popular opinion around here but I still think it's the second best franchise mode in sports games behind 2K. Sure it has flaws I'd love to see fixed but again, SDS has an enormous task in front of them to move product and appeal to as many players as possible, and with that understanding I've found the mode is very enjoyable.

And it's wild that we're railing franchise for not changing enough when they've added custom teams and stadiums, which may not be directly tied to franchise but certainly allow for greater depth. Players have an enormous amount more flexibility than they used to. I actually don't think they get enough credit for this.

[LegendKillerOne]

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Again, *you're* upset with those things. The fact that only half of the posters here -- the ultimate place for striving for realism online -- seem upset about those things tells me they're not universal issues for the playing audience.

I don't care about any of those things you mentioned. I want a baseball game that looks and plays well that I enjoy, and these do the job fine. I certainly don't think I'm alone in that. I'm betting a lot of DD players don't care either.

Also... you and others continue to say "well they should have made a full softball league"... there's no way people would have been happier with that lol. You guys would find another way to say they're wasting resources on this. I don't believe for a second making a whole new mode would somehow make this more acceptable to the naysayers. The issue seems to be putting women in the game at all.

You obviously do not follow the comments on other places such as X, Facebook, etc. It's a split feeling between people all over not just at OP.

Enjoy the morning.

[LegendKillerOne]

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First off let's be realistic here. You are never going to be the GM/Manager of an MLB team. Just not going to happen.

It's a video game so of course it is fantasy.

Not only that, with RTTS and DD being decoupled the women are only in the RTTS mode, where the game has always been about living a fantasy. You have people who create the most ridiculously proportioned players and make them superstars. You have people who play on easy difficulties and hit 200 HRs in a season. The mode is already unrealistic so why is it just now that some people are complaining?

This game pretty much does not deny males from living out any unrealistic baseball fantasy that they want, whether that is becoming GM in Franchise, creating a Super team in DD, or creating yourself in RTTS. Why shouldn't females get the same option to live out their baseball fantasy?

And if you are honest with yourself, you will understand that Franchise has been pretty much ignored for many, many years now, long before they were working to put women into the game. Everybody acting like Franchise would have gotten some great update or been allocated more resources had it not been for this feature is just fooling themselves.

The first part is true but a shame. I would do a much better job than the current Mets GM. Then again anyone with a pulse would so not sure that is saying. much

You are 100% correct. They have not done much for the franchise crowd in a long time that was game changing. Its just not the money maker for the game that DD is

[ZachenFoot]

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You obviously do not follow the comments on other places such as X, Facebook, etc. It's a split feeling between people all over not just at OP.

Enjoy the morning.

Going to bet the majority, if not the entirety, of those posts against this are not coming from women.

[Dolenz]

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I know this isn't a popular opinion around here but I still think it's the second best franchise mode in sports games behind 2K. Sure it has flaws I'd love to see fixed but again, SDS has an enormous task in front of them to move product and appeal to as many players as possible, and with that understanding I've found the mode is very enjoyable.

I'd say that you are might be correct if you are limiting it to these types games where you can actually control the players.

I'd probably argue that more sim based options like Out Of The Park Baseball or Football Manager have more in depth franchise experience.

[ZachenFoot]

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I'd say that you are might be correct if you are limiting it to these types games where you can actually control the players.

I'd probably argue that more sim based options like Out Of The Park Baseball or Football Manager have more in depth franchise experience.

See I don't play those so I'll defer to you on that!