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  • thescoop
    MVP
    • Jan 2006
    • 1288

    #46
    Re: MLB THE SHOW 24 - RTTS BLOG AND TRAILER - WOMEN PAVE THEIR WAY

    Originally posted by brunopuntzjones
    It makes a lot of sense. Women and girls are, this might shock you, a big demographic, some (perhaps even many) of whom enjoy baseball and play the game already, and more could become interested thanks to this feature.

    Women’s sports are having a moment, too, with basketball getting a ton of attention but the PWHL seeming to do better than expected as well. Sure baseball doesn’t have an equivalent (yet?) but that also suggests there’s a market for women in sports content.
    Show me the number to back up they make up a big demographic for the game. Not trying to be smart with you but I want to see the actual numbers. That's why I asked about it. I'm curious.
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    • invincible
      Rookie
      • Apr 2023
      • 67

      #47
      Re: MLB THE SHOW 24 - RTTS BLOG AND TRAILER - WOMEN PAVE THEIR WAY

      I don't play RTTS so my only feelings about this are simple:

      Not one demographic asked for this or even brought it up. The franchise people didn't. The RTTS people didn't. The DD people didn't. No one. So why does this team continue to work on passion projects and then market them to seemingly no one instead of actually focusing on the things that their core consumer base asks for? I hate to say it, but why ignore the people buying your product year in and year out?

      Simple....money. Greed. They're trying to market the product to a larger demographic in order to get more people into baseball. Larger demographic = more sales. The problem is they've made it clear they are happy with their product and in essence are ignoring the requests of their core clientele base.

      You know what this usually means? Loss of sales. But it won't. Because there's no alternative. And they know it. Let's face it. We are no longer their focus. They can tweet what they want and say what they want. Actions speak louder than words. It was a good run. The times have changed.
      Last edited by invincible; 03-05-2024, 10:41 AM.

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      • brunopuntzjones
        Pro
        • Jul 2018
        • 651

        #48
        Re: MLB THE SHOW 24 - RTTS BLOG AND TRAILER - WOMEN PAVE THEIR WAY

        Originally posted by LegendKillerOne
        See that is what I would like to know. You nailed it, I want to know how many females actually play MLB the Show. You say a lot but where did you find those numbers? I would love to see it. Cause if its great for business it makes sense. But if the numbers are flat in that area then they are wasting resources on something when they could be improving other areas.
        If the numbers are flat, this is how you raise them.

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        • thescoop
          MVP
          • Jan 2006
          • 1288

          #49
          Re: MLB THE SHOW 24 - RTTS BLOG AND TRAILER - WOMEN PAVE THEIR WAY

          Originally posted by brunopuntzjones
          If the numbers are flat, this is how you raise them.
          Wait, so now the numbers are flat? Just a second ago you claimed they made a up a "big demographic." Which is it?
          Check out my updated 2017 blog on building a high school football video game:
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          • brunopuntzjones
            Pro
            • Jul 2018
            • 651

            #50
            Re: MLB THE SHOW 24 - RTTS BLOG AND TRAILER - WOMEN PAVE THEIR WAY

            Originally posted by thescoop
            Show me the number to back up they make up a big demographic for the game. Not trying to be smart with you but I want to see the actual numbers. That's why I asked about it. I'm curious.
            I didn’t say they make up a big demographic for the game. I said they’re a big demographic, some of whom may already play, and that doing something like this can lead to more women playing the game.

            I don’t actually know how many women already play The Show. There could only be two. But it makes clear business sense to try growing that number.

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            • DrPhibes
              Rookie
              • Aug 2009
              • 386

              #51
              Re: MLB THE SHOW 24 - RTTS BLOG AND TRAILER - WOMEN PAVE THEIR WAY

              Good now woman can experience how lazy RTTS is and how far MLB The Show's offline modes have fallen off a cliff, too.

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              • bronxbombers21325
                MVP
                • Mar 2012
                • 3058

                #52
                Re: MLB THE SHOW 24 - RTTS BLOG AND TRAILER - WOMEN PAVE THEIR WAY

                I’m not sure how to express my feelings on this. As with most things these days it feels like you have to walk a tight rope with your opinions. I in no way think the inclusion of women in this game is a bad thing. But, as others have said. It’s something that no one was asking for. Like the storylines. I’ll just say I think it feels forced just for the sake of inclusion. But, if it expands the audience of the game then that is a great thing. But, doing things just for the sake of inclusion can also backfire. I guess we will find out if either of those things happen sooner rather than later.

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                • invincible
                  Rookie
                  • Apr 2023
                  • 67

                  #53
                  Re: MLB THE SHOW 24 - RTTS BLOG AND TRAILER - WOMEN PAVE THEIR WAY

                  Originally posted by Stolm
                  Disagree...it's agenda driven and has nothing to do with money at all. They will continue to push this even if they lose money. (just look at the movie industry)

                  Though I wouldn't be surprised if it was sold to higher ups as "broadening the audience". Anyone with a lick of sense knows it won't.

                  And for those asking about the numbers of females who play The Show. You know it's sub-1%. Don't lie to yourselves.
                  Everything has to do with money.
                  Everything.

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                  • woz411
                    Pro
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 513

                    #54
                    Re: MLB THE SHOW 24 - RTTS BLOG AND TRAILER - WOMEN PAVE THEIR WAY

                    Originally posted by Stolm
                    Disagree...it's agenda driven and has nothing to do with money at all. They will continue to push this even if they lose money. (just look at the movie industry)

                    Though I wouldn't be surprised if it was sold to higher ups as "broadening the audience". Anyone with a lick of sense knows it won't.

                    And for those asking about the numbers of females who play The Show. You know it's sub-1%. Don't lie to yourselves.
                    this is not agenda driven..... and thats I will say here

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                    • CBoller1331
                      It Appears I Blue Myself
                      • Dec 2013
                      • 3082

                      #55
                      Re: MLB THE SHOW 24 - RTTS BLOG AND TRAILER - WOMEN PAVE THEIR WAY

                      Originally posted by bronxbombers21325
                      I’m not sure how to express my feelings on this. As with most things these days it feels like you have to walk a tight rope with your opinions. I in no way think the inclusion of women in this game is a bad thing. But, as others have said. It’s something that no one was asking for. Like the storylines. I’ll just say I think it feels forced just for the sake of inclusion. But, if it expands the audience of the game then that is a great thing. But, doing things just for the sake of inclusion can also backfire. I guess we will find out if either of those things happen sooner rather than later.
                      I agree.

                      I'm not sure if this needs to be said, but not being excited/interested in this mode does not make someone misogynistic. Doesn't mean I'm going to agree with every commenter on these threads who's critical of it, but this just doesn't really get me fired up to spend my money on the game
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                      • thescoop
                        MVP
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 1288

                        #56
                        Re: MLB THE SHOW 24 - RTTS BLOG AND TRAILER - WOMEN PAVE THEIR WAY

                        Originally posted by brunopuntzjones
                        I didn’t say they make up a big demographic for the game. I said they’re a big demographic, some of whom may already play, and that doing something like this can lead to more women playing the game.

                        I don’t actually know how many women already play The Show. There could only be two. But it makes clear business sense to try growing that number.
                        Well it was implied that they were with your first post. I appreciate you clarifying that though

                        But I disagree with your last statement. If the number is low, especially if it is only 2, (I know that is merely an example number you gave.) then the time and effort should be going in ways to target your main base. And when there are legacy issues not being addressed that leads to frustration.
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                        • thescoop
                          MVP
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 1288

                          #57
                          Re: MLB THE SHOW 24 - RTTS BLOG AND TRAILER - WOMEN PAVE THEIR WAY

                          Originally posted by bronxbombers21325
                          I’m not sure how to express my feelings on this. As with most things these days it feels like you have to walk a tight rope with your opinions. I in no way think the inclusion of women in this game is a bad thing. But, as others have said. It’s something that no one was asking for. Like the storylines. I’ll just say I think it feels forced just for the sake of inclusion. But, if it expands the audience of the game then that is a great thing. But, doing things just for the sake of inclusion can also backfire. I guess we will find out if either of those things happen sooner rather than later.
                          I think you expressed it really well.
                          Check out my updated 2017 blog on building a high school football video game:
                          http://forums.operationsports.com/th...ame-revisited/

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                          • brunopuntzjones
                            Pro
                            • Jul 2018
                            • 651

                            #58
                            Re: MLB THE SHOW 24 - RTTS BLOG AND TRAILER - WOMEN PAVE THEIR WAY

                            That members of this forum haven’t yet figured out that franchise die hards and simulation purists are not the core audience for this game and haven’t been for nearly a decade now is a genuine surprise. The core audience is where the numbers are and where sales are driven. It’s been ages since franchise mode did that for any sports series.

                            I wish franchise mode got a real overhaul, too, but I’ve accepted that it probably isn’t coming unless/until SDS makes a big deal of it early in the hype cycle.

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                            • LegendKillerOne
                              MVP
                              • Jan 2019
                              • 1764

                              #59
                              Re: MLB THE SHOW 24 - RTTS BLOG AND TRAILER - WOMEN PAVE THEIR WAY

                              Originally posted by thescoop
                              I think you expressed it really well.
                              Agree he said it well
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                              • PhlliesPhan6
                                MVP
                                • Feb 2009
                                • 1491

                                #60
                                Re: MLB THE SHOW 24 - RTTS BLOG AND TRAILER - WOMEN PAVE THEIR WAY

                                1. This was probably very easy for them to implement into the game.

                                2. The legacy issues would still exist with, or without the addition of female baseball players being in the game.

                                3. If you don't want to play with a female ballplayer, don't play that mode. Simple.

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