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  • MrOctober430
    MVP
    • May 2005
    • 1694

    #376
    Re: What Are You Working On? - MLB The Show 23 Edition

    Just finished the WBC program. Yesterday was the first time playing Conquest and I gotta say, I’m enjoying it.

    I knocked out the Mexico map pretty fast. So guess the Mexico Series is next. I started the showdown and had to take a break after beating Gallegos.

    Anybody know if after Dec 31 the WBC cards will still be in the Show?

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    • papadell
      MVP
      • Mar 2019
      • 4176

      #377
      Re: What Are You Working On? - MLB The Show 23 Edition

      Originally posted by ValhallaVikings
      What's gonna happen to the market on Friday. Will everybody be selling off set 1 stuff to buy set 2?

      Im at 230k and other than bolster my pen I'm not sure there is a whole lot for me to go after so holding might be the best plan

      On another note, this Chapman card in the event is a beast. Way better than I thought, I may have to move chipper to dh after all. Chapman's power is real
      I'm not sure what the value in selling off for Set 2 would be. Power creep will still exist so each new Set will almost surely be more powerful overall cards, but with the big set collections you have to lock in so many cards.

      Plus, we're still most likely getting the big collections at some point. Doesn't mean people won't sell off - I'm very curious to see what happens.

      But since you can still use them in all the various modes it seems a bit early. But it's such a new format as well that there's no precedent.
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      • ValhallaVikings
        MVP
        • Apr 2020
        • 2584

        #378
        Re: What Are You Working On? - MLB The Show 23 Edition

        In 25-30 event games I'm hitting like 450-480 with Chapman, Mateo, kelenic, arraez, heim and like 100 with rooker and outman

        I'm also hitting good with supercharged robert... I don't understand how I can be so bad with some of these cards lol

        I like this event even tho I'm only winning 66%. Moonshot I was winning over 90%

        Jumping from moments, to mini seasons to conquests to events I'm in no place to mess with ranked anytime soon

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        • ravens_yankees
          Pro
          • May 2021
          • 507

          #379
          Re: What Are You Working On? - MLB The Show 23 Edition

          The past couple weeks have been tough getting regular playing time, but I’ve been trying to get BR done to pick up Posada. I have been working early morning hours and noticed his price was way down so I bought him on a big dip and finished up the BR program to get Griffey.

          This felt like one of worst BR runs ever though as I’m really struggling to hit. Too many moments and showdowns I think that threw off my timing, and I’ve lost my plate discipline which makes for a bad combo.

          I was able to finish up everything but the monthly program as well, and also picked up Chipper as my second set 1 collection. I’m looking forward to set 2 though to see what they have planned. Looks like it could be an interesting one.

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          • ValhallaVikings
            MVP
            • Apr 2020
            • 2584

            #380
            Re: What Are You Working On? - MLB The Show 23 Edition

            Originally posted by ravens_yankees

            This felt like one of worst BR runs ever though as I’m really struggling to hit. Too many moments and showdowns I think that threw off my timing, and I’ve lost my plate discipline which makes for a bad combo.
            That'll do it

            Id recommend going into practice mode with legend fastballs, just to speed up your eye recognition. Doesn't help with pci but helps me pick up pitches better and makes my discipline not completely fall off.

            Moments I usually just try to do real fast so I swing at mostly everything and takes me a minute to get back to online mode

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            • Fiddy
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              • Jul 2002
              • 12679

              #381
              Re: What Are You Working On? - MLB The Show 23 Edition

              Is it Friday 3pm set yet? LOL

              Only thing I have left to do is get 5 more Event wins to get to 50. Although, it's Wednesday, I'd assume we get a small Weekly Wonders program. Then thats that..

              Even though I've gone head first into DD the last 3 or 4 years, this I star far the most fun I've had for sure. Can't wait to start the grind over again this weekend.
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              • JoshC1977
                All Star
                • Dec 2010
                • 11564

                #382
                Re: What Are You Working On? - MLB The Show 23 Edition

                Originally posted by Fiddy
                Even though I've gone head first into DD the last 3 or 4 years, this I star far the most fun I've had for sure. Can't wait to start the grind over again this weekend.
                This is a genuine question and not an attack or anything like that...

                But how on Earth are you enjoying DD this year? To me, it feels like I am literally grinding for no reason other than the right to lease a card for a few weeks. There's zero challenging content, there's zero long-term gameplay centered goals (collections are cute and all but are just currency-based...and yes, time is a currency). The entire mode just feels like a totally pointless time suck where you will be asked to start over...and over...and over without ever truly achieving anything (moreso than usual). Then you throw in the total dearth of new content since launch (like 3 or 4 tiny maps and no new mini seasons - Moments/Showdown do not qualify as real content IMO as they don't use your team) and nearly everything you do has to be done by repeating the same old content. The only "skill" with DD is how much time you can spend playing it...

                I've asked other folks this and I am asking you the same (and anyone else here); but what is the "Draw" for you? What is tickling your fancy so much? What is your goal?

                I REALLY would like to enjoy DD this year as I love the addition of Captains and a true use for thematic teams; but every time I fire-up the mode, one question pops into my head, "What's the point?". It's grinding for no reason other than to grind and there's no pay-off.

                I'd love to hear your thoughts.
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                • dmoore
                  Rookie
                  • May 2003
                  • 129

                  #383
                  Re: What Are You Working On? - MLB The Show 23 Edition

                  Originally posted by JoshC1977
                  This is a genuine question and not an attack or anything like that...

                  But how on Earth are you enjoying DD this year? To me, it feels like I am literally grinding for no reason other than the right to lease a card for a few weeks. There's zero challenging content, there's zero long-term gameplay centered goals (collections are cute and all but are just currency-based...and yes, time is a currency). The entire mode just feels like a totally pointless time suck where you will be asked to start over...and over...and over without ever truly achieving anything (moreso than usual). Then you throw in the total dearth of new content since launch (like 3 or 4 tiny maps and no new mini seasons - Moments/Showdown do not qualify as real content IMO as they don't use your team) and nearly everything you do has to be done by repeating the same old content. The only "skill" with DD is how much time you can spend playing it...

                  I've asked other folks this and I am asking you the same (and anyone else here); but what is the "Draw" for you? What is tickling your fancy so much? What is your goal?

                  I REALLY would like to enjoy DD this year as I love the addition of Captains and a true use for thematic teams; but every time I fire-up the mode, one question pops into my head, "What's the point?". It's grinding for no reason other than to grind and there's no pay-off.

                  I'd love to hear your thoughts.
                  This is only my 2nd year, so I don't have a lot to compare it to. I think I had more of a pull to play last year, but that was because programs were time limited. I loved the idea of the WBC being in the game, but they definitely leaned to much on them in the first set. I'm focusing on Live Series, just because that was what I did last year and it still is something I want to accomplish. If I just wanted to build the best team possible and play ranked or something, I probably would have shifted my focus. I guess team affinity has taken it's place, but I miss those large programs like the Face of the Franchise, Future of the Franchise, where you got to see what card your favorite team got and then they kinda shifted the meta. I do not enjoy the TA grind. I haven't played any mini seasons yet because I'm afraid of getting the bug and having to start over.

                  I do feel like content is a little light so far. There's not enough conquest maps and there hasn't been ways to earn some of the big packs. I don't think I've ever gotten one of those packs with Future Stars in it. Still really enjoying the game this year and I think I like the idea of sets, but they really need to increase the value or need for core cards.

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                  • ValhallaVikings
                    MVP
                    • Apr 2020
                    • 2584

                    #384
                    Re: What Are You Working On? - MLB The Show 23 Edition

                    Originally posted by JoshC1977
                    This is a genuine question and not an attack or anything like that...

                    But how on Earth are you enjoying DD this year? To me, it feels like I am literally grinding for no reason other than the right to lease a card for a few weeks. There's zero challenging content, there's zero long-term gameplay centered goals (collections are cute and all but are just currency-based...and yes, time is a currency). The entire mode just feels like a totally pointless time suck where you will be asked to start over...and over...and over without ever truly achieving anything (moreso than usual). Then you throw in the total dearth of new content since launch (like 3 or 4 tiny maps and no new mini seasons - Moments/Showdown do not qualify as real content IMO as they don't use your team) and nearly everything you do has to be done by repeating the same old content. The only "skill" with DD is how much time you can spend playing it...

                    I've asked other folks this and I am asking you the same (and anyone else here); but what is the "Draw" for you? What is tickling your fancy so much? What is your goal?

                    I REALLY would like to enjoy DD this year as I love the addition of Captains and a true use for thematic teams; but every time I fire-up the mode, one question pops into my head, "What's the point?". It's grinding for no reason other than to grind and there's no pay-off.

                    I'd love to hear your thoughts.
                    I prefer online... There is more time to get stuff done so still feels like a grind but not a all consuming one. Most cards over past years it's not like most online users will use for more than a week or two anyway.

                    I have zero desire for theme teams and prob don't use too many long enough to P5 more than 5-10 all year.

                    I don't find offline stuff challenging and never have but it's almost sometimes a welcome break from the stress or "try hard" aspect of online play (especially ranked)

                    I've done pretty much everything but the Mexico program.

                    I've enjoyed the last two events, I'm looking forward to the next BR

                    I like the grind of earning stuff, simply accomplishing and this year is laid out much better imo than previous years. I'm also happy with the "leasing" of a card. I've had chipper for a while and will get Pedro or Ruth for like another two months or something? Plenty of time for me since they're regularly releasing new stuff.

                    I would find playing conquest all the time pretty terrible. But for me it's fine to knock out 5 offline games once every other week as somewhat of a break.

                    Comparing offline only players to online only players really seems like two completely different experiences that aren't all too comparable

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                    • papadell
                      MVP
                      • Mar 2019
                      • 4176

                      #385
                      Re: What Are You Working On? - MLB The Show 23 Edition

                      I think the big difference this year is online play being tighter and better than it's ever been.

                      For those of us that like playing online, that's been the biggest missing ingredient for years now. The crazy amounts of frustration from bad swings being rewarded too much and imbalance of gameplay online overall was just a huge black cloud over the content.

                      Diamond Dynasty has always lacked meaningful offline content. There's nothing beyond Mini Seasons, really, and even that is still broken as I haven't been able to progress in the Team Affinity Mini Seasons without running into the season breaking bug.

                      If you only play offline, I don't think there's actually a draw this year. The sets and seasons model will bring that "new game grind" feeling each time the sets rotate that I think will keep the game fresher with content. But unless they drop some Domination style mode similar to 2K or something that actually gives more reason to play offline - ultimately I don't think it'll hold as much attention for offliners this year.
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                      • papadell
                        MVP
                        • Mar 2019
                        • 4176

                        #386
                        Re: What Are You Working On? - MLB The Show 23 Edition

                        After no luck all year I've hit the diamond Boss pack two wheel spins in a row lmao. I feel like I should hold them until the new season starts because their price should tick up but it's also 40k now. Who knows if they'll do some kind of rewind pack or add them into wheelspins for season 2.

                        Might sell one and hold the other. I just bought Williams for 18k the other day so at least essentially can get my stubs back.
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                        • JoshC1977
                          All Star
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 11564

                          #387
                          Re: What Are You Working On? - MLB The Show 23 Edition

                          Originally posted by ValhallaVikings
                          I don't find offline stuff challenging and never have but it's almost sometimes a welcome break from the stress or "try hard" aspect of online play (especially ranked)
                          And I think this is a very key point where opinions will diverge and you were 100% spot-on about the fact that there will be differences between offline-only players and those who do engage online.

                          In my opinion, offline should not be built as a "mindless grind" to give online players a "break" (I'm not putting words in your mouth, I'm just making that statement). Yes, there absolutely should be some "easier" elements there for accessibility purposes; but true-to-form, SDS goes overboard. This is where NBA 2k gets it right with their offline domination mode - exclusive unsellable rewards that force you to win challenging games with challenging goals. (I believe they also have exclusive rewards for certain online modes as well)

                          However, I think online is just as watered-down these days. You can get the same rewards in plenty of other ways. Winning in Ranked seasons? Who cares, just play some innings. Going 12-0 in BR, who cares? Just do some missions to do the program. The irony is the only place where wins/losses matter to get a reward are events...and even then, all it takes is a little time to earn the stubs to buy the card off the market.

                          (Now, I appreciate that there are some people that actually care about wins/losses online irrespective of the reward structure. I personally don't understand that, but I DO acknowledge that this is a huge draw for some folks.)

                          At the end of the day, playing well earns you nothing more than reducing the time it takes to earn cards and that's true whether you play online or offline. That's a rather watered-down experience IMO. In past years, I could get around this by focusing on certain things (often they were just goals around certain collection subsets). But with the Set structure this year; I have nothing to work towards as a long-term goal.

                          And I saw Papadell's response as I was typing this and I think you are spot-on; it's not a good year to be an offline-only player unless something changes. Maybe I just have to accept that; but I DO miss enjoying DD and am hoping I might get some ideas as to how to mentally approach the mode given the way it is built this year.
                          Last edited by JoshC1977; 05-10-2023, 10:52 AM.
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                          • ValhallaVikings
                            MVP
                            • Apr 2020
                            • 2584

                            #388
                            Re: What Are You Working On? - MLB The Show 23 Edition

                            Originally posted by JoshC1977

                            At the end of the day, playing well earns you nothing more than reducing the time it takes to earn cards and that's true whether you play online or offline. That's a rather watered-down experience IMO.
                            .
                            I don't look at it that way at all. I "earn" posada in br. I've gone 12-0 once all time so likelihood of me doing that again isn't high and I feel like im actually pretty good.

                            I wanted to earn Chapman with no real intent of using him. The completion and finish is my accomplishment, if I actually use the card I guess that's a bonus.

                            I own a gym, it's like if I deadlift 100lbs today I want to deadlift 105 next week....who cares? It's only 5lbs, someone else can deadlift 200, another person can only deadlift 50...i just know I'm getting better constantly and in a sense "rewarded" from the grind or improvement.

                            I think the worst part about the show is when the cycle basically ends and there isn't anything to work towards

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                            • JoshC1977
                              All Star
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 11564

                              #389
                              Re: What Are You Working On? - MLB The Show 23 Edition

                              Originally posted by ValhallaVikings
                              I don't look at it that way at all. I "earn" posada in br. I've gone 12-0 once all time so likelihood of me doing that again isn't high and I feel like im actually pretty good.

                              I wanted to earn Chapman with no real intent of using him. The completion and finish is my accomplishment, if I actually use the card I guess that's a bonus.
                              This is interesting to me and I was thinking about this earlier today and then you come and say this. This is where I differ from both you and probably most players; I don't feel a strong sense of accomplishment for merely earning a card (or collection).

                              I feel a sense of accomplishment for completing a meaningfully challenging task with my team and players. The card may be a reward, but it's not what excites me; it's completing something that was difficult that I was able to do with my team.

                              Anyways, I truly appreciate your thoughts. You and I are wired differently and that was why I posted my original post this morning; I wanted to get different points of view on the mode - hoping it might give me some stuff to chew-on that might give me "an angle" in which I might glean some fun out of this mode.

                              Looking forward to thoughts from others as well.
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                              • ravens_yankees
                                Pro
                                • May 2021
                                • 507

                                #390
                                Re: What Are You Working On? - MLB The Show 23 Edition

                                Originally posted by ValhallaVikings
                                I don't look at it that way at all. I "earn" posada in br. I've gone 12-0 once all time so likelihood of me doing that again isn't high and I feel like im actually pretty good.

                                I wanted to earn Chapman with no real intent of using him. The completion and finish is my accomplishment, if I actually use the card I guess that's a bonus.

                                I own a gym, it's like if I deadlift 100lbs today I want to deadlift 105 next week....who cares? It's only 5lbs, someone else can deadlift 200, another person can only deadlift 50...i just know I'm getting better constantly and in a sense "rewarded" from the grind or improvement.

                                I think the worst part about the show is when the cycle basically ends and there isn't anything to work towards
                                I can definitely relate to this. I get a lot of the sense of accomplishment in finishing a program and the reward is a bonus. I like playing for something, even if it’s something kind of meaningless.

                                I don’t like the end of cycle either, I want some purpose to work towards.

                                Even when there isn’t something to play towards I’ll work on P5ing guys or something. For me gameplay being good makes a big difference.

                                But I like the long grind of TA this year. I don’t actively work on it and finish as quick as possible, but for me it’s nice seeing progress screens after I finish a game.

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