**MLB 08: The Show (PS2) First Impressions Thread**

[bsb13]

Re: **MLB 08: The Show (PS2) First Impressions Thread**

I remember Frank Thomas in the 989 MLB games on the PS1 had his stance in somewhat of a crouch. I have no idea why they have him standing straight up and stiff as a board in the ps2 versions of MLB. These things dont really bother me all that much though.

[bsb13]

Re: **MLB 08: The Show (PS2) First Impressions Thread**

anyone else finding the game a bit too eaasy? I've started off 5-0 in franchise mode with the angels. I have yet to give up more than 3 runs in a game and have given up only 2 HR's in 5 games. I'm playing on hall of fame mode but the computer has yet to challenge me. I have won all my games by 3 runs or more. Maybe i need to adjust the sliders to make the cpu hit better or something.

Do you play with all visual aids off? Do you use classic or meter? Just wondering.

[Rod_Carew29]

@ bsb

you're right, but the lack of addressing the stance/delivery issues EVERY YEAR points to ineptness, laziness and quite frankly a sloppy job....

and let's not even talk about stance that are named for certain players, but who really are for others....pathetic

we talk about motion capture all the time....how about if these guys whose job it is to get this stuff right, use the motion capture technology to LIFT the batting stances and pitching deliveries OFF OF digital video? I mean this is REALLY inexcusable....

I remember Frank Thomas in the 989 MLB games on the PS1 had his stance in somewhat of a crouch. I have no idea why they have him standing straight up and stiff as a board in the ps2 versions of MLB. These things dont really bother me all that much though.

[Sedihawk2K5]

Re: @ bsb

you're right, but the lack of addressing the stance/delivery issues EVERY YEAR points to ineptness, laziness and quite frankly a sloppy job....

and let's not even talk about stance that are named for certain players, but who really are for others....pathetic

we talk about motion capture all the time....how about if these guys whose job it is to get this stuff right, use the motion capture technology to LIFT the batting stances and pitching deliveries OFF OF digital video? I mean this is REALLY inexcusable....

Totally agree. I don't understand it either.

Rod, did you notice if they went backwards with Papi's stance? Last year they changed his stance on the PS2/PSP, but this year from the PSP demo and the PS2 trailer it looks like they went back to his '06 stance? Weird.

[Rod_Carew29]

@ Sedihawk2K5

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...post2038190939


I move it to a thread that I started for stances and deliveries

Totally agree. I don't understand it either.

Rod, did you notice if they went backwards with Papi's stance? Last year they changed his stance on the PS2/PSP, but this year from the PSP demo and the PS2 trailer it looks like they went back to his '06 stance? Weird.

[baa7]

Re: **MLB 08: The Show (PS2) First Impressions Thread**

Rented MLB 08 this morning...

Thumbs up from me. The slowdown issue from 07 is non-existent this year. The 08 graphics are better than last year as well, but still not up to 06 standards - jaggies in particular are a bit of an issue. Those were my main areas of concern.

Fired up a game, and same great gameplay as before. I have a deposit down for MLB 08 at EB, and will quite probably be purchasing it next week. Got to check out the rest of the game first though.

[bsb13]

Re: **MLB 08: The Show (PS2) First Impressions Thread**

Rented MLB 08 this morning...

Thumbs up from me. The slowdown issue from 07 is non-existent this year. The 08 graphics are better than last year as well, but still not up to 06 standards - jaggies in particular are a bit of an issue. Those were my main areas of concern.

Fired up a game, and same great gameplay as before. I have a deposit down for MLB 08 at EB, and will quite probably be purchasing it next week. Got to check out the rest of the game first though.

I'll probably be getting it later on today or tomorrow. I'm just so glad the slowdown issues are gone this year cause that was my biggest concern.

You said hitting felt easier in 07 than in 06, does it feel any harder in 08?

[Pared]

Re: @ bsb

you're right, but the lack of addressing the stance/delivery issues EVERY YEAR points to ineptness, laziness and quite frankly a sloppy job....

and let's not even talk about stance that are named for certain players, but who really are for others....pathetic

we talk about motion capture all the time....how about if these guys whose job it is to get this stuff right, use the motion capture technology to LIFT the batting stances and pitching deliveries OFF OF digital video? I mean this is REALLY inexcusable....

C'mon RC. You know they put all their focus and resources on the PS3 version. At this point I think it's pretty much a given you're buying nothing but a roster update on a disc.

I bet they didn't update Shea Stadium either, right?

I just don't understand how shocked you can be at this point. You're playing on old hardware and if you know and understand the business, you would know what you're getting when you buy the game.

[Rod_Carew29]

@ Pared

I did mention that a few minutes ago on another post...that I know that's the stated mission....focus on PS3. But...

I also wrote that we're still talking about people's MONEY. Yes, I can afford a PS3 and all of that jazz...

but there are many who can't...for whatever reason...and to those folks, SCEA is obliged to give them also, the best product available....that's why some of these corporations have focus groups (which apparently they have a short circuit on)

I mean, even I was NOT expecting a game that loked like the PS3 or XBox (2K8),..I know better, but when you don't CHANGE stances and deliveries in some cases for two years straight, that's BS....

Lastly, as I wrote in one of the first 5 PS2 impressions thread, there is no CitiField construction beyond Shea....

C'mon RC. You know they put all their focus and resources on the PS3 version. At this point I think it's pretty much a given you're buying nothing but a roster update on a disc.

I bet they didn't update Shea Stadium either, right?

I just don't understand how shocked you can be at this point. You're playing on old hardware and if you know and understand the business, you would know what you're getting when you buy the game.

[soltrain]

Re: @ Pared

I did mention that a few minutes ago on another post...that I know that's the stated mission....focus on PS3. But...

I also wrote that we're still talking about people's MONEY. Yes, I can afford a PS3 and all of that jazz...

but there are many who can't...for whatever reason...and to those folks, SCEA is obliged to give them also, the best product available....that's why some of these corporations have focus groups (which apparently they have a short circuit on)

I mean, even I was NOT expecting a game that loked like the PS3 or XBox (2K8),..I know better, but when you don't CHANGE stances and deliveries in some cases for two years straight, that's BS....

Lastly, as I wrote in one of the first 5 PS2 impressions thread, there is no CitiField construction beyond Shea....

I'm sure the PS2 couldn't handle the power of the animations for the construction and have it all run smoothly.

You should feel lucky that they are still making the game for PS2 - most companies have stopped completely.

[Rod_Carew29]

@ soltrain

a-I don't feel 'lucky'...that's silly...I have no intention of using this slimmed down PS2 console for much longer...but I am FORTUNATE that I can buy a PS3....there are MANY who CANNOT.

b-also, we all know about what the limitations are...I get that, but is NO....NO....excuse known to mankind where you cannot get a batting stance correct or....keep using the same ones...

PS even in this PS2 version, some of the NEW stances and deliveries ARE in...and some that have been redone (Lackey) are in....

I'm sure the PS2 couldn't handle the power of the animations for the construction and have it all run smoothly.

You should feel lucky that they are still making the game for PS2 - most companies have stopped completely.

[Woodweaver]

Re: @ bsb

you're right, but the lack of addressing the stance/delivery issues EVERY YEAR points to ineptness, laziness and quite frankly a sloppy job....

and let's not even talk about stance that are named for certain players, but who really are for others....pathetic

we talk about motion capture all the time....how about if these guys whose job it is to get this stuff right, use the motion capture technology to LIFT the batting stances and pitching deliveries OFF OF digital video? I mean this is REALLY inexcusable....

Wow, that seems like a lot of name calling from someone who does not know any of the technical constraints of a last gen system. Only the devs know what memory, space on the disk, and myriad of other techincal issues limit changes and upgrades on a 10 year old platform (especially while additional dev time and resources are being used for the PS3). Perhaps that fact that these things have not changed for a couple of years indicates that they can not be changed without significant effort (or at all given the current state of the game or amount of dev time and resources available).

Just a thought I'd have before throwing around names like inept, lazy, and sloppy....

[Rod_Carew29]

@ Woodweaver

do you REALLY think that to change Frank Thomas' (recently discussed on these boards) stance from UPRIGHT to a correct CROUCHED position is about technical issues? Or resources?

I'll sell you the Brooklyn Bridge..which is a few blocks from here....

LMAO

Wow, that seems like a lot of name calling from someone who does not know any of the technical constraints of a last gen system. Only the devs know what memory, space on the disk, and myriad of other techincal issues limit changes and upgrades on a 10 year old platform (especially while additional dev time and resources are being used for the PS3). Perhaps that fact that these things have not changed for a couple of years indicates that they can not be changed without significant effort (or at all given the current state of the game or amount of dev time and resources available).

Just a thought I'd have before throwing around names like inept, lazy, and sloppy....

[Pared]

Re: @ Woodweaver

You have the means to change it though, right? Isn't it safe to say that had they changed it, someone out there still wouldn't be happy with it... and then change it themselves?

[Rod_Carew29]

@ Pared

I'm not talking about those that we can change to mirror the real life guys, I'm talking about those that are wrong--where there's no viable alternatives. It's not always the big things that make the game....as you well know

...I'm not making any excuses for them...

You have the means to change it though, right? Isn't it safe to say that had they changed it, someone out there still wouldn't be happy with it... and then change it themselves?