This game has Comeback Code written all over it!!!

**nemesis04** · 03-13-2009, 07:47 AM

Re: This game has Comeback Code written all over it!!!

Originally posted by countryboy

Here's my question, and not trying to sound like a prick, but has anyone thats experienced comeback ai, did something similar to the cpu? In other words, have you made a comeback against the cpu?

Funny you mentioned this. I was going to do a post from the AI's perspective complaining about the human player coming back and winning games. Just to do a funny little spin on it.

**EnigmaNemesis** · 03-13-2009, 07:47 AM

Re: This game has Comeback Code written all over it!!!

Originally posted by nemesis04

Funny you mentioned this. I was going to do a post from the AI's perspective complaining about the human player coming back and winning games. Just to do a funny little spin on it.

That is most definitely a bug that needs to be looked it!

**Maynard** · 03-13-2009, 07:48 AM

Re: This game has Comeback Code written all over it!!!

Originally posted by baa7

Don't. I caught your 'bash brothers' comment on the first page before you deleted it. You're the one just itching to start a fight here, bud.

co sign.....enengma has been nothing but a flamer in this thread. We get your point enegma, you dont agree...so move on

i also have seen some things i would consider suspect from the AI regarding comebacks. Lets not forget that this game is full of flaws this year. Way more then last year and these are glaring in comparison. So for the optional AI Comeback on/off feature to be broken wouldnt surprise me in the least

**davewins** · 03-13-2009, 07:48 AM

Re: This game has Comeback Code written all over it!!!

Originally posted by Art1bk

On my original post i clearly stated that i have that option off. I never said i had them on.

Maybe you should try turning the option ON and seeing how it compares to what you are seeing with it set to off. This could validate Baa7's theory about a possible glitch where the mode is "stuck" on. Or better yet maybe you will see the complete opposite and possibly when it's set to off it's really set to on and when it's set to on it's really set to off. Shot in the dark but give it a shot.

**EnigmaNemesis** · 03-13-2009, 07:49 AM

Re: This game has Comeback Code written all over it!!!

Originally posted by Maynard

co sign.....enengma has been nothing but a flamer in this thread. We get your point enegma, you dont agree...so move on

i also have seen some things i would consider suspect from the AI regarding comebacks. Lets not forget that this game is full of flaws this year. Way more then last year and these are glaring in comparison. So for the optional AI Comeback on/off feature to be broken wouldnt surprise me in the least

Where did I flame???

Outside of your opinion reflecting on your stance on the game?

**Yankees_CT** · 03-13-2009, 07:51 AM

Re: This game has Comeback Code written all over it!!!

Can't say that I am seeing these magical comebacks. The only games I have lost so far are games in which I have been down in. I have managed to keep my leads on my wins. If people are seeing this, I wonder if it has to do with starter fatigue in the later innings....just throwing that out there because I have yet to see it myself.

**nemesis04** · 03-13-2009, 07:51 AM

Re: This game has Comeback Code written all over it!!!

Originally posted by davewins

Maybe you should try turning the option ON and seeing how it compares to what you are seeing with it set to off. This could validate Baa7's theory about a possible glitch where the mode is "stuck" on. Or better yet maybe you will see the complete opposite and possibly when it's set to off it's really set to on and when it's set to on it's really set to off. Shot in the dark but give it a shot.

If I understand that feature correctly, I thought it helps whoever is down Human or cpu. Maybe the people who are seeing it could mount a comeback in some games.

**ThreeKing** · 03-13-2009, 07:51 AM

Re: This game has Comeback Code written all over it!!!

Art1bk, I have only read the first page and the reason you're getting flamed is because the intelligent/veteran posters on this board saw this coming a mile away.

You just waited until, what you thought, was the right time to bash this game. It was inevitable.

As the kids like to say......EPIC FAIL.

**Maynard** · 03-13-2009, 07:58 AM

Re: This game has Comeback Code written all over it!!!

Originally posted by EnigmaNemesis

Where did I flame???

Outside of your opinion reflecting on your stance on the game?

flame, provoke, make smart *** comments....call it what you will, but you have been nothing but harassing to the OP. We all know this isnt an issue for you, so why are you so concerned with the topic? Are you trying to convince everyone that your right and they are wrong? If you dont have anything constructive to say then move on

BTW, did i post my stance on the game? i think not, but im gonna assume this means you flamed someone else that you didnt agree with

**brunnoce** · 03-13-2009, 07:59 AM

Re: This game has Comeback Code written all over it!!!

sorry but theres no way a comback code is on by default otherwise i wouldnt be having blow outs in my season mode...one game i lost 9-2 the very next one i won 7-1, if there was anykind of comeback code thiose games would never happen.

thats on legend btw

**e0820** · 03-13-2009, 08:04 AM

Re: This game has Comeback Code written all over it!!!

Originally posted by Art1bk

It's good to see an eduacated poster

. Baa the game has the option to turn it on or off. I have it off but every team i play is always coming back on me. I thought i was the only one who saw this until i spoke to a friend earlier today and he told me the same thing.

Same here I am 1-9. I have won one game on Allstar and backed down to Veteren where I have not won yet. Right around the 6th/7th/8th inning whoever I am playing always seem to get a bunch of hits in a row or homers or something after playing a normal game prior.

I even choose better teams vs worst teams. So I had BOS(me) vs BAL and it was 1-1 throughout the first 4inn then it went to 2-2 in the 5th. Sometime in the 6th or 7th they get a two run home run then in the 8th they got a string of hits and I wound up losing 5-3.

**davewins** · 03-13-2009, 08:04 AM

Re: This game has Comeback Code written all over it!!!

I am completley on the fence here. A lot of people are talking about it and a lot aren't. There is no concrete way of saying yes absolutley it's there or absolutley it's not. I know Russell said it's not but how do they really test something like this and know if there isn't a glitch in this department. How could you possibly come to a diagnosis in this problem. It's really a matter of opinion unless the dev's have some tool or something that they use that can find bugs in the system. I highly doubt that.

Anyways....I respect everybodys opinion here and a lot are seeing this comeback. I will say that I do see it as well but I look at like it's my fault for messing up a pitch, etc. I will say that I have come back from the CPU plenty of times. I don't know if it's comeback code for me or if it's my skill but I haven't played that many games so far and I have seen some pretty good comebacks and usually some pretty exciting games. I haven't really seen any blowouts that were boring. Seems like every game was exciting so far and close in score.

Still on the fence and probably always will be about this topic. Bottom line is there is just no way of proving or disproving it. Unless Russell explains how he knows there is no comeback ai in the game. I would like to know how you can come to a conclusion about it. How can you 100% positively say that it's not in the game. How do you test it??

Then again we could all be used to a much easier game. More of an arcade game where you can win pretty easily. Now we have a WHOLE NEW BALLGAME literally. Where you have to strategize and NEVER let up. I remember learning this just from watching games. I would watch the Red Sox go up by 4 runs in the 5th inning against say the Blue Jays. I would be thinking nice they should probably win. They would have the bases loaded with 1 out and ground into a dp and I would be like "ahh no big deal they got the 4 runs" and take for granted the runs that they got. I learned that in baseball it doesn't work like that. I should of been happy they scored but still disapointed that they didn't get more runs in such a great scoring opportunity. It's a grind, a marathon. It's 100% not a sprint. Each individual game and each individual season is a marathon and of course you have to pitch every single pitch like it's the bottom of the 9th with 2 outs and bases loaded. Well not every but you get what I'm saying. Main point here is you can't lighten up at all on the mound or at the plate just because you have the lead. I think a lot including myself are doing this whether they realize it or not. You can't just skim through all the cutscenes and play as fast as possible. You will lose games doing this. You have to be patient and not rush through any games. The more you concentrate and focus the better you do in this game. If you lose focus you really diminish your chances of winning. It could be that a lot of people (art himself said he won the world series last year with the yankees) could be used to winning and not used to getting blown out or better yet GETTING THE LEAD TAKEN FROM THEM. I surely am not used to that and it's not fun. However, the only thing you can do now is not complain about comeback ai possibly being in the game because it's not going to get you anywhere. Unless of course they realize that it is a glitch where it's always turned on and they patch it but in all seriousness the chances of that happening are slim to none. Just play the game and try "extra" hard when you have a lead so it doesn't happen again.

**Maynard** · 03-13-2009, 08:11 AM

Re: This game has Comeback Code written all over it!!!

Originally posted by davewins

I am completley on the fence here. A lot of people are talking about it and a lot aren't. There is no concrete way of saying yes absolutley it's there or absolutley it's not. I know Russell said it's not but how do they really test something like this and know if there isn't a glitch in this department. How could you possibly come to a diagnosis in this problem. It's really a matter of opinion unless the dev's have some tool or something that they use that can find bugs in the system. I highly doubt that.

Anyways....I respect everybodys opinion here and a lot are seeing this comeback. I will say that I do see it as well but I look at like it's my fault for messing up a pitch, etc. I will say that I have come back from the CPU plenty of times. I don't know if it's comeback code for me or if it's my skill but I haven't played that many games so far and I have seen some pretty good comebacks and usually some pretty exciting games. I haven't really seen any blowouts that were boring. Seems like every game was exciting so far and close in score.

Still on the fence and probably always will be about this topic. Bottom line is there is just no way of proving or disproving it. Unless Russell explains how he knows there is no comeback ai in the game. I would like to know how you can come to a conclusion about it. How can you 100% positively say that it's not in the game. How do you test it??

lol....good post.....this is why i said the situation is suspect. I am leaning towards no, but i see things that make me wonder.

**EnigmaNemesis** · 03-13-2009, 08:17 AM

Re: This game has Comeback Code written all over it!!!

Originally posted by Maynard

flame, provoke, make smart *** comments....call it what you will, but you have been nothing but harassing to the OP. We all know this isnt an issue for you, so why are you so concerned with the topic? Are you trying to convince everyone that your right and they are wrong? If you dont have anything constructive to say then move on

BTW, did i post my stance on the game? i think not, but im gonna assume this means you flamed someone else that you didnt agree with

Oh please. Anyone with half a brain knows how Art comes off and how his post was full of nonconstructive emotion, begging for some snarky comments. And I did the first time for ha ha's. Everything after that was on point. He knew it because he mentioned the comedy element.

Just because I dont see it, does not make my opinions any less relevant.

But of course you have nothing to say for their off-topic ranting about me back and forth when I was not posting out of line.

And two threads on the same subject, of course must be talked about.

**brunnoce** · 03-13-2009, 08:19 AM

Re: This game has Comeback Code written all over it!!!

just tell me this, how come im seeing blow outs(both ways, for me and for the AI) if thers such a comeback code like u guys suspect?

This game has Comeback Code written all over it!!!

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