2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

[bugle987]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Yeah I don't think I'd want to give up Hechavarria since I don't produce all that well with Escobar and I think Kelly Johnson is in the last year of his contract.

I don't know just how good Marisnick is supposed to be but I think I'd be much more willing to give him up since I already have a ton of outfielders with Thames, Davis, Rasmus, Bautista, Gose, etc.

Marisnick or Gose with Hutchison and McGuire or Norris.

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Marisnick or Gose with Hutchison and McGuire or Norris.

I wouldn't go Gose when the Reds have Drew Stubbs. Marisnick is just an OF in real life, he can play (and profiles well) anywhere in the OF. Gose is mainly a CFer, and his exceptional speed and range would be wasted in LF or RF.

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Yeah I don't think I'd want to give up Hechavarria since I don't produce all that well with Escobar and I think Kelly Johnson is in the last year of his contract.

I don't know just how good Marisnick is supposed to be but I think I'd be much more willing to give him up since I already have a ton of outfielders with Thames, Davis, Rasmus, Bautista, Gose, etc.

Going into 2015, Snider hasn't gotten to a B yet for me. He had a 22 HR season once, but hasn't been great. Might make him a fourth outfielder for Marisnick, because at only 23 he's torn up AAA and is already a B. Davis never really gets on base for me. Traded Thames, hasn't really stuck in the bigs. Joey Bats and Rasmus have been good. Just sharing my experiences, hope you take it into account when/if you make a trade.

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[bugle987]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

I wouldn't go Gose when the Reds have Drew Stubbs. Marisnick is just an OF in real life, he can play (and profiles well) anywhere in the OF. Gose is mainly a CFer, and his exceptional speed and range would be wasted in LF or RF.

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And you expect Stubbs to stay around, hes not great sure hes fast but doesnt have a cannon has a OBP around .320 which is not very good, he strikes out a ton, and bats at the bottom. Gose is a guy who has added some power, and has looked great of late.

[bugle987]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Marisnick is supposed to be an above average outfielder who will hit for 18-22 HR a year when he's in his prime. He'll be a decent runner and has a plus arm. He is a line drive hitter which is why he won't have great power but could hit .290 in his career. Snyder is being blocked by..... well actually I don't know why he is in the minors. He's old for the AAA so his stats there don't really mean much. He should probably be a 4th outfielder some day if not a borderline starter. Gose has some potential to be an all star. He has always been a 70/75 runner and an 80 arm. But he chased everything when he was young and wasn't a very good hitter. He's improved alot and if he keeps progressing like this at the plate he'll be really good.

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Marisnick is supposed to be an above average outfielder who will hit for 18-22 HR a year when he's in his prime. He'll be a decent runner and has a plus arm. He is a line drive hitter which is why he won't have great power but could hit .290 in his career. Snyder is being blocked by..... well actually I don't know why he is in the minors. He's old for the AAA so his stats there don't really mean much. He should probably be a 4th outfielder some day if not a borderline starter. Gose has some potential to be an all star. He has always been a 70/75 runner and an 80 arm. But he chased everything when he was young and wasn't a very good hitter. He's improved alot and if he keeps progressing like this at the plate he'll be really good.

Touche. I guess either could work. Don't know the NL much haha.

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[yankees028]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Alright I have 3 days before the trade deadline have I'm in a panic to there decided to make a push or unload some contracts. I'm 2nd in the wild card currently But with a team ERA of 5.21 I need to make change. I tried Dice-K for two games and it was awful moved him to the A's with two C's for Colon.

Pitching Rotation
iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiW-LiiiiiiiiiiiiiERA
S.Diamond -iiii5-0iiiiiiiiiiiii3.21
B.Colon-iiiiiiiiiiii2-3iiiiiiiiiiiii5.44
J.Marquiesiiiiiii2-7iiiiiiiiiiiiii5.37
J.Mcdonaldiiiii2-5iiiiiiiiiiiiiii7.62
F.Lirianoiiiiiiiiiii6-1iiiiiiiiiiiiiii4.70

I def need to figure something out I'm willing to move Justin Morneu who is currently batting .316 13hrs with 27 rbi. Even though Liriano is doing well I would possibly move him because of 6 of his starts he has had 8+ runs on offense so I feel the w/l is very blown up with him. I just really need another solid pitcher.

Teams that our totally out of currently by 10+ games
Cubs,Phillies,Astros,Padres

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Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Alright I have 3 days before the trade deadline have I'm in a panic to there decided to make a push or unload some contracts. I'm 2nd in the wild card currently But with a team ERA of 5.21 I need to make change. I tried Dice-K for two games and it was awful moved him to the A's with two C's for Colon.

Pitching Rotation
iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiW-LiiiiiiiiiiiiiERA
S.Diamond -iiii5-0iiiiiiiiiiiii3.21
B.Colon-iiiiiiiiiiii2-3iiiiiiiiiiiii5.44
J.Marquiesiiiiiii2-7iiiiiiiiiiiiii5.37
J.Mcdonaldiiiii2-5iiiiiiiiiiiiiii7.62
F.Lirianoiiiiiiiiiii6-1iiiiiiiiiiiiiii4.70

I def need to figure something out I'm willing to move Justin Morneu who is currently batting .316 13hrs with 27 rbi. Even though Liriano is doing well I would possibly move him because of 6 of his starts he has had 8+ runs on offense so I feel the w/l is very blown up with him. I just really need another solid pitcher.

Teams that our totally out of currently by 10+ games
Cubs,Phillies,Astros,Padres

why wudd u move Morneau and Liriano if they're doing well? what is Liriano's W/L record and ERA? u shudd be in buy mode and giving up some minor-league talent for veterans on losing teams that are having good years

[yankees028]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

why wudd u move Morneau and Liriano if they're doing well? what is Liriano's W/L record and ERA? u shudd be in buy mode and giving up some minor-league talent for veterans on losing teams that are having good years

Liriano I want to keep if I can get another starter but I don't trust him as a number 2. As for Morneau most of his soild numbers have come when I have simmed I personally cant hit with him I posted that when I started my chise. I really dont like to sim ether going to make a list of pitchers that our on teams that our out of it to get some input from you guys.

Thank you

[bugle987]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Touche. I guess either could work. Don't know the NL much haha.

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Its all cool I was just saying.

[bugle987]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Liriano I want to keep if I can get another starter but I don't trust him as a number 2. As for Morneau most of his soild numbers have come when I have simmed I personally cant hit with him I posted that when I started my chise. I really dont like to sim ether going to make a list of pitchers that our on teams that our out of it to get some input from you guys.

Thank you

If the Phillies are out maybe its time for them to start to rebuild, if you truely want to win now like this year and the next, then try trading Arcia, Hicks and Sano for one of their big 3 pitchers, you could also give up 2 B's for Wandy

[yankees028]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

So after searching around the league for teams that where out of the race and also had veteran pitchers I felt could help me came up with three.

1.
Padres
Edison Valquez - 2.1 million
0-2 with a 3.93 era

2.
Mets
Mike Pelfrey - 2.5 million
5-1 with a 2.28 era and 67 k's having a very good year.

3.
Astros
J.A Happ - 1.67 million
3-5 with a 2.37 era and 52 k's

I'm unsure of the route to take I have been thinking about moving McDonald to the bullpen mainly because he is young and does have good stuff but anything more then 3+ inning I get raked with him. If I went that route and tried to persue one or two of the toper players my rotation would look like this.
iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiW-LiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiERA
S.Diamond-ii5-0iiiiiiiiiiiiiiii3.21
B.Colon-iiiiiiii2-3iiiiiiiiiiiiiiii5.44
F.Liriano-iiiii6-1iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii4.70
M.Pelfrey-iii5-1iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii2.28
J.Happ-iiiiiiii3-5iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii2.37

What do you think of this route? and what type of level players would be needed to go for a Pelfrey and Happ. I like going this route mainly because it gives me the 3 lefties and hopefully a soild bottom of the rotation.

Thoughts? Thanks guys

[bugle987]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

So after searching around the league for teams that where out of the race and also had veteran pitchers I felt could help me came up with three.

1.
Padres
Edison Valquez - 2.1 million
0-2 with a 3.93 era

2.
Mets
Mike Pelfrey - 2.5 million
5-1 with a 2.28 era and 67 k's having a very good year.

3.
Astros
J.A Happ - 1.67 million
3-5 with a 2.37 era and 52 k's

I'm unsure of the route to take I have been thinking about moving McDonald to the bullpen mainly because he is young and does have good stuff but anything more then 3+ inning I get raked with him. If I went that route and tried to persue one or two of the toper players my rotation would look like this.
iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiW-LiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiERA
S.Diamond-ii5-0iiiiiiiiiiiiiiii3.21
B.Colon-iiiiiiii2-3iiiiiiiiiiiiiiii5.44
F.Liriano-iiiii6-1iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii4.70
M.Pelfrey-iii5-1iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii2.28
J.Happ-iiiiiiii3-5iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii2.37

What do you think of this route? and what type of level players would be needed to go for a Pelfrey and Happ. I like going this route mainly because it gives me the 3 lefties and hopefully a soild bottom of the rotation.

Thoughts? Thanks guys

Pelfrey and Happ would cost you a B and 2 C's for each probably.

[yankees028]

Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Thats about what I was thinking. Would do you think of the suggested pitching rotation?

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Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

Pelfrey and Happ would cost you a B and 2 C's for each probably.

Happ is not worth a B.... 3 C's at best