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  • AC
    Win the East
    • Sep 2010
    • 14951

    #7651
    Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by bugle987
    Does a batting title ring a bell....
    By that logic, Joe Mauer, Maglio Ordonez, and Carlos Gonzalez are superstars.



    They're good, not THAT good.
    "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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    • Shibito
      MVP
      • Jul 2011
      • 1987

      #7652
      Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

      Reyes is NOT the hitter he was when I started my franchise, he's a D contact hitter now. Wells is not a number 4 OF anymore, he's a solid starter, not an all-star, but still solid.

      Thanks for the feedback though guys, I'll look around elsewhere, maybe Stanton will hit FA, his morale's pretty low with Miami right now.

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      • bugle987
        Banned
        • Apr 2011
        • 1289

        #7653
        Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by ACMilan1999
        By that logic, Joe Mauer, Maglio Ordonez, and Carlos Gonzalez are superstars.



        They're good, not THAT good.
        2 of those 3 are superstars

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        • AC
          Win the East
          • Sep 2010
          • 14951

          #7654
          Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by bugle987
          2 of those 3 are superstars
          I'd love to know your definition of superstar. There's an argument for Mauer, but Cargo?

          http://www.fangraphs.com/statsplits....OF&season=2012

          He's hitting .242 away from Coors. That's pathetic. He's a Coors product, no doubt.
          "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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          • bugle987
            Banned
            • Apr 2011
            • 1289

            #7655
            Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by ACMilan1999
            I'd love to know your definition of superstar. There's an argument for Mauer, but Cargo?

            http://www.fangraphs.com/statsplits....OF&season=2012

            He's hitting .242 away from Coors. That's pathetic. He's a Coors product, no doubt.
            I'd say a guy that is constantly a top 40 guy in WAR every year. Which has been Mauer and Gonzalez

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            • bwoodring9
              Pro
              • May 2012
              • 683

              #7656
              Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

              Just throwing this trade offer I made in here since it hasn't gotten any response in the Arbitration thread. Just looking for some honest feedback, and any would be much appreciated! Still early in our season, but I am highly interested in Peter Bourjos. How does this offer for him look?

              C- Gabriel Lino (B POT)
              2B- Cesar Hernandez (B POT)

              For

              Bourjos

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              • 37
                Fear The Spear
                • Apr 2011
                • 10346

                #7657
                Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                Originally posted by bwoodring9
                Just throwing this trade offer I made in here since it hasn't gotten any response in the Arbitration thread. Just looking for some honest feedback, and any would be much appreciated! Still early in our season, but I am highly interested in Peter Bourjos. How does this offer for him look?

                C- Gabriel Lino (B POT)
                2B- Cesar Hernandez (B POT)

                For

                Bourjos
                sounds fine to me
                Steelers | Seminoles | A's | Rockets | Avalanche | Wildcats, Hoosiers | Liverpool

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                • bugle987
                  Banned
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 1289

                  #7658
                  Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by ACMilan1999
                  I'd love to know your definition of superstar. There's an argument for Mauer, but Cargo?

                  http://www.fangraphs.com/statsplits....OF&season=2012

                  He's hitting .242 away from Coors. That's pathetic. He's a Coors product, no doubt.
                  Also he still is walking and he's hit 7 HR in 50 games on the road, sO it's not as bad as your saying. He's a career .261 hitter on the road. But he's played about 120 of his 240 road games at either Oakland, LAD, Petco, or Att which are all extreme pitcher parks. So gotta look at that too

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                  • bwoodring9
                    Pro
                    • May 2012
                    • 683

                    #7659
                    Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                    Thanks for the response! You think the Angels would realistically do this too! I've watched some of their games, and they seem to have trouble finding a spot in the lineup for him.

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                    • AC
                      Win the East
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 14951

                      #7660
                      Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by bugle987
                      I'd say a guy that is constantly a top 40 guy in WAR every year. Which has been Mauer and Gonzalez
                      I'm no metrics expert, but what about the one that adjusts for park? Because I'd LOVE to see how CarGo fares in that one.
                      "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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                      • 37
                        Fear The Spear
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 10346

                        #7661
                        Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by bwoodring9
                        Thanks for the response! You think the Angels would realistically do this too! I've watched some of their games, and they seem to have trouble finding a spot in the lineup for him.
                        realistically? no...since they're still hella high on him especially with Torii gettin older and older and Wells being a colossal waste
                        Steelers | Seminoles | A's | Rockets | Avalanche | Wildcats, Hoosiers | Liverpool

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                        • bugle987
                          Banned
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 1289

                          #7662
                          Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by bwoodring9
                          Just throwing this trade offer I made in here since it hasn't gotten any response in the Arbitration thread. Just looking for some honest feedback, and any would be much appreciated! Still early in our season, but I am highly interested in Peter Bourjos. How does this offer for him look?

                          C- Gabriel Lino (B POT)
                          2B- Cesar Hernandez (B POT)

                          For

                          Bourjos
                          Lino is a C in the new rosters besides he was traded to Phil from Balt in the Thome deal

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                          • mpbaseball22
                            MVP
                            • May 2011
                            • 1029

                            #7663
                            Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                            Cargo still has a pretty nice OPS+. I'd definitely consider him a superstar.

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                            • AC
                              Win the East
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 14951

                              #7664
                              Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by bugle987
                              Also he still is walking and he's hit 7 HR in 50 games on the road, sO it's not as bad as your saying. He's a career .261 hitter on the road. But he's played about 120 of his 240 road games at either Oakland, LAD, Petco, or Att which are all extreme pitcher parks. So gotta look at that too
                              See my last post, what about the adjusted WAR for parks?
                              "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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                              • AC
                                Win the East
                                • Sep 2010
                                • 14951

                                #7665
                                Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by NoFatGirlz4Me37
                                Wells being a colossal waste


                                You're welcome.
                                "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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