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  • CameRoN0407
    It's a New England Thing
    • Oct 2012
    • 3328

    #11686
    Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by Alfonsori
    Yeah hes there because of the trade yes. So its 2 high A's?? Glad i drafted 2 A's in 2012

    Soo i guess the royals need some new pitching prospects or outfielders. 1 B Pitcher and 1 B RF?
    If the Royals traded one of baseball's Top Prospects (#3), and another Top 100 prospect (#30) AND a mid B (Montgomery), then they'd want the same, if not, more than they put forward to get him IMHO...
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    • nowitsourtime
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      • Oct 2011
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      #11687
      Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by Readyornot0407
      If the Royals traded one of baseball's Top Prospects (#3), and another Top 100 prospect (#30) AND a mid B (Montgomery), then they'd want the same, if not, more than they put forward to get him IMHO...
      But we could all agree that they overpaid. Just because the Royals are stupid doesn't make me think that the OP should have to pay the same price IMO.

      Also, you could technically say they paid that for Shields AND Wade Davis so the price for just shields would be less than what the Royals paid

      Also, he said he is in 2013 so Shields would command less of a return because he is a rental

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      • CameRoN0407
        It's a New England Thing
        • Oct 2012
        • 3328

        #11688
        Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by nowitsourtime
        But we could all agree that they overpaid. Just because the Royals are stupid doesn't make me think that the OP should have to pay the same price IMO.

        Also, you could technically say they paid that for Shields AND Wade Davis so the price for just shields would be less than what the Royals paid

        Also, he said he is in 2013 so Shields would command less of a return because he is a rental
        Wade Davis has little to no trade value in the show. He's a reliever so take out Montgomery's POT (mid B) and your good. I think that AT Least and A straight up. The Royals put alot of value in him so that means they expect the same value back after only 1 year since that trade IMO...
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        • AC
          Win the East
          • Sep 2010
          • 14951

          #11689
          Davis will be used as a starter on KC
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          • CameRoN0407
            It's a New England Thing
            • Oct 2012
            • 3328

            #11690
            Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by ACMilan99
            Davis will be used as a starter on KC
            What? Man, I need to get up to date w/ this crap. That still doesn't effect my opinion...
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            • AC
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              • Sep 2010
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              #11691
              Originally posted by Readyornot0407
              What? Man, I need to get up to date w/ this crap. That still doesn't effect my opinion...
              Starting gives you much more value
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              • nowitsourtime
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                • Oct 2011
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                #11692
                Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                Originally posted by ACMilan99
                Starting gives you much more value
                This.

                Also The Royals would be laughed at by GM's if they asked for two A's for a half year of James Shields

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                • Alfonsori
                  Rookie
                  • Mar 2012
                  • 136

                  #11693
                  Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by nowitsourtime
                  Yeah pretty much. Which prospects do you have in mind?
                  I was thinking about RF Josh Bell and RHP Victor Black

                  That way i give them the #5 and #16 prospects in the pirates organization.
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                  • AC
                    Win the East
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 14951

                    #11694
                    Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                    Folks, the spreadsheet is officially out of the alpha phase. It will be released as a beta and be expanded to include more editors within the coming days.

                    Huge props to Totte on this one.
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                    • rjackson
                      MVP
                      • Apr 2005
                      • 1661

                      #11695
                      Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by nowitsourtime
                      This.

                      Also The Royals would be laughed at by GM's if they asked for two A's for a half year of James Shields
                      irl, the going rate for a rental is usually high B, 2 mid-B's, and a low B/High C. I think that we settled on 3 mid B's on here, though. 3 mid-B's equals 1 A and a C? so that could be another option...

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                      • AC
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                        • Sep 2010
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                        #11696
                        Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by rjackson
                        irl, the going rate for a rental is usually high B, 2 mid-B's, and a low B/High C. I think that we settled on 3 mid B's on here, though. 3 mid-B's equals 1 A and a C? so that could be another option...
                        I don't think mid B's can ever realistically equal an A, unless a GM wants reaaaaaaaalllly wants quantity over quality, and there aren't many who are like that. I think a High B/low B/High C = Mid A/mid C
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                        • rjackson
                          MVP
                          • Apr 2005
                          • 1661

                          #11697
                          Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by ACMilan99
                          I don't think mid B's can ever realistically equal an A,
                          This is true and a good point. But I'm saying that if you are going after a rental and don't want to give 3 B's ala this year's Greinke trade, couldn't you give an A and say, 1 or 2 C's ala the Wheeler for Beltran trade? (though iirc, they gave more but I hope you get what I'm trying to say).

                          This means more quality going to that other team over quantity...

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                          • AC
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                            • Sep 2010
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                            #11698
                            Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by rjackson
                            This is true and a good point. But I'm saying that if you are going after a rental and don't want to give 3 B's ala this year's Greinke trade, couldn't you give an A and say, 1 or 2 C's ala the Wheeler for Beltran trade? (though iirc, they gave more but I hope you get what I'm trying to say).

                            This means more quality going to that other team over quantity...
                            Yeah, but looking at this on a case-by-case basis, there are very few players worth an A for a rental- not even Grienke was. Jean Segura is a midhigh B.

                            I think Shields would probably be worth a high, high B as a rental, but he's not Grienke.
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                            • Totte
                              MVP
                              • Mar 2005
                              • 2919

                              #11699
                              Originally posted by ACMilan99
                              Huge props to Totte on this one.
                              Thanks but I wouldn't have been able to pull it off and shape it into what its become without your effort and knowledge
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                              • AC
                                Win the East
                                • Sep 2010
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                                #11700
                                Re: 2012 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by Totte
                                Thanks but I wouldn't have been able to pull it off and shape it into what its become without your effort and knowledge
                                Hey, there wouldn't even be a spreadsheet without you, lol. I'm uploading it right now, will post a link soon.
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