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  • Totte
    MVP
    • Mar 2005
    • 2919

    #6946
    Originally posted by dtedesco788
    Chise with the mets. Looking to trade for an outfield bat. Impact if I can get it but I would settle for a guy who can hit around 280 with 20-25 dingers OR a legit lead off guy. I'm willing to give up wilmer Flores and Noah syndergard. Any suggestions?
    Andre Ethier?

    First name I came to think of was Seth Smith of the A's. He fits your description of a 20-25 HR bat.

    For the leadoff gig, what about Rajai Davis or Quintin Berry? Jarrod Dyson?
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    • G3no_11
      MVP
      • Oct 2012
      • 1110

      #6947
      Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

      Do you have Eric Young Jr.? He would be great to get for a lead off hitter as the Mets acquired him in real life for Collin McHugh.

      You could maybe even throw in Tyler Colvin for your 20-25 HR guy. With consistent playing time, Colvin could get those numbers and he has decent speed. Last year he hit .290 with 18 HRs and really didn't play consistently until the middle of the year.

      Can't really think of the Mets prospects right now, but they would probably want more pitching for Colvin.
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      • RogueHominid
        Hall Of Fame
        • Aug 2006
        • 10900

        #6948
        Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by Totte
        Andre Ethier?

        First name I came to think of was Seth Smith of the A's. He fits your description of a 20-25 HR bat.

        For the leadoff gig, what about Rajai Davis or Quintin Berry? Jarrod Dyson?
        Hey now. He comes with a lot higher fetching price. Prime goods right there .

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        • WaitTilNextYear
          Go Cubs Go
          • Mar 2013
          • 16830

          #6949
          Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by JMP
          OK, that's helpful.

          No, I'm not using 30 team control, though I've heard about the feature a little bit.

          Does that require you to micromanage the affairs of all 30 teams? I think doing so would be more than I can handle, but if there's a way to create a better trading logic without having to do absolutely everything, then I could see how that would be good.

          Any info on that would be great!
          Yeah, like people are saying, use 30-team control and have only trades (maybe free agents too) set to 'manual'. This means the cpu will still control all other operations of the other teams.

          For the trading, don't rely on the in-game AI at all. It's been established thousands of times how that's just broken.

          So, if you have a need for a deal, think about what you want and what you can give up first, then come to the OP and take a look at the spreadsheet to check how fair your original thought is. Modify it as needed and then propose something here. The gents in this thread are good at helping with if a trade is realistic/a good fit or not whereas the spreadsheet tells you if it's fair.

          The process basically completely supercedes any in-game trade logic. Also, you should probably have force trade ON because just like the cpu recognizing a crappy deal as fair, it will be wrong in the other direction too--it'll think fair deals are rips sometimes.

          Originally posted by G3no_11
          Do you have Eric Young Jr.? He would be great to get for a lead off hitter as the Mets acquired him in real life for Collin McHugh.

          You could maybe even throw in Tyler Colvin for your 20-25 HR guy. With consistent playing time, Colvin could get those numbers and he has decent speed. Last year he hit .290 with 18 HRs and really didn't play consistently until the middle of the year.

          Can't really think of the Mets prospects right now, but they would probably want more pitching for Colvin.
          Ah the Tyler Colvin love....but Citi Field is actually one of the only NL stadiums outside of Coors that Colvin has done anything in. It's only 29 PAs, so it probably doesn't matter though. I'd go with EY Jr. over Colvin in a heartbeat.
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          • RogueHominid
            Hall Of Fame
            • Aug 2006
            • 10900

            #6950
            Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

            Wow, man, that's some detailed stuff. I wish I had the time and inclination to do it that way, but I just can't imagine enjoying the benefits given the time necessary to manage rosters. I totally get it, though, for folks who are very intense about wanting trades and signings to correspond most realistically to real life.

            I'll bow out for a bit since others have real trade stuff on the table now, lol, but thanks to you and the rest for all the help thus far!

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            • G3no_11
              MVP
              • Oct 2012
              • 1110

              #6951
              Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

              Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear
              Ah the Tyler Colvin love....but Citi Field is actually one of the only NL stadiums outside of Coors that Colvin has done anything in. It's only 29 PAs, so it probably doesn't matter though. I'd go with EY Jr. over Colvin in a heartbeat.
              This wasn't what he was asking. He was asking for a lead off hitter (EYJ) and/or a .280, 20-25 HR guy (Colvin). I gave a suggestion for both types of players he was asking for. They both would be fairly easy to acquire and on the same team. Hey WTNY how is Ian Stewart treatin ya?
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              • AC
                Win the East
                • Sep 2010
                • 14951

                #6952
                Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                Originally posted by dtedesco788
                Chise with the mets. Looking to trade for an outfield bat. Impact if I can get it but I would settle for a guy who can hit around 280 with 20-25 dingers OR a legit lead off guy. I'm willing to give up wilmer Flores and Noah syndergard. Any suggestions?
                Leadoff: Rajai Davis, Juan Pierre, Drew Stubbs, Coco Crisp, Andy Dirks, Lorenzo Cain

                25 dingers: Jacoby Ellsbury, Dominic Brown (maybe), Matt Joyce, Chris Carter, Colby Rasmus (maybe), Josh Willingham, Alfonso Soriano, Alex Rios
                "Twelve at-bats is a pretty decent sample size." - Eric Byrnes

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                • rjackson
                  MVP
                  • Apr 2005
                  • 1661

                  #6953
                  Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                  Syndergaard + McHugh = EY + Colvin
                  Play Colvin at OF or 1B against RHP and win.

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                  • AC
                    Win the East
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 14951

                    #6954
                    Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by rjackson
                    Syndergaard + McHugh = EY + Colvin
                    Wait whaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

                    Syndergaard is like the #23 prospect in baseball.
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                    • dtedesco788
                      Rookie
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 21

                      #6955
                      Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                      I do have young JR so I'm more inclined to go after the homerun guy. I'm also trying to stay fairly young and inexpensive so soriano and Beltran are out.

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                      • G3no_11
                        MVP
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 1110

                        #6956
                        Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by ACMilan99
                        Wait whaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

                        Syndergaard is like the #23 prospect in baseball.
                        Yeah that's definitely an overpay. Syndergaard could probably get you both of them depending on performance.
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                        • WaitTilNextYear
                          Go Cubs Go
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 16830

                          #6957
                          Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by G3no_11
                          This wasn't what he was asking. He was asking for a lead off hitter (EYJ) and/or a .280, 20-25 HR guy (Colvin). I gave a suggestion for both types of players he was asking for. They both would be fairly easy to acquire and on the same team. Hey WTNY how is Ian Stewart treatin ya?
                          I'm not sure why you bring up Stew when I say Colvin. But, I've been pretty clear about not likng Colvin BEFORE he went to the Rockies. He's a park illusion. Why is that so hard to realize? You guys have had many, many, many like him in the past.

                          Originally posted by ACMilan99
                          Leadoff: Rajai Davis, Juan Pierre, Drew Stubbs, Coco Crisp, Andy Dirks, Lorenzo Cain

                          25 dingers: Jacoby Ellsbury, Dominic Brown (maybe), Matt Joyce, Chris Carter, Colby Rasmus (maybe), Josh Willingham, Alfonso Soriano, Alex Rios
                          I think Ellsbury goes in the leadoff column. That one season was one season.

                          Originally posted by rjackson
                          Syndergaard + McHugh = EY + Colvin
                          Play Colvin at OF or 1B against RHP and win.
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                          • AC
                            Win the East
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 14951

                            #6958
                            Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by G3no_11
                            Yeah that's definitely an overpay. Syndergaard could probably get you both of them depending on performance.
                            There's absolutely no probably about it. Syndergaard is a huge overpay for both those guys, no question in my mind. Good God is he an incredible talent.
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                            • G3no_11
                              MVP
                              • Oct 2012
                              • 1110

                              #6959
                              Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by WaitTilNextYear
                              I'm not sure why you bring up Stew when I say Colvin.
                              Because I get a kick out of the trade. That's pretty much it.
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                              • royals19
                                MVP
                                • Jan 2012
                                • 2182

                                #6960
                                Re: 2013 The Show Official Trade Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by dtedesco788
                                Chise with the mets. Looking to trade for an outfield bat. Impact if I can get it but I would settle for a guy who can hit around 280 with 20-25 dingers OR a legit lead off guy. I'm willing to give up wilmer Flores and Noah syndergard. Any suggestions?
                                Lorenzo Cain has been absolutely amazing for me. He hit .300 the first year in my Franchise and he's currently hitting .324 through the All Star Break. He isn't a 20-25 home run type guy but he'll probably hit 15 and give you good speed out there. On top of that he won't cost you that much in money or players.



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